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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:

Blueprint For Murder wrote:

I was wondering what everyone thinks about SMG TTK(time to kill) at both close and mid ranges. The last few days I have been shredded by SMGs at ranges that would seem to be outside its capacity but kill with amazing proficiency. I am going to trade in my ion pistol (Light slot) for the mil SMG for a bit so I can get a better grasp.

SMG's always been a great weapon. Currently I am skilled into proficiency with ScP, MS, and IP. When the respec comes around, I am dumping the ScP and MS, keeping the IP, and going pro with the SMG (I liked the MS when it first came out but I've been gone a while and something has changed about it; I used to like the ScP's RoF but that's been changed to; at least the IP is awesome).

I also have proficiency in AR, ScR, and RR, but I am dumping the RR and ScR, for the CR, PLC and LR. That should make for a good bit of fun. Also dumping my Lv 5 SP in sentinel and taking my Commando from Lv 3 to Lv 5. Dumping all my SP in vehicles and skilling Lv 5 logi. All Gallente suits.

This should make for a good bit of fun. I'm hoping. Big smile

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The Master Race Immortal Guides 195	Posted - 2014.10.30 17:31:00 - [1] - Quote I was wondering what everyone thinks about SMG TTK(time to kill) at both close and mid ranges. The last few days I have been shredded by SMGs at ranges that would seem to be outside its capacity but kill with amazing proficiency. I am going to trade in my ion pistol (Light slot) for the mil SMG for a bit so I can get a better grasp. The miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.Wizard Talk
Blueprint For Murder Immortal Guides 195	Posted - 2014.10.30 17:31:00 - [2] - Quote I was wondering what everyone thinks about SMG TTK(time to kill) at both close and mid ranges. The last few days I have been shredded by SMGs at ranges that would seem to be outside its capacity but kill with amazing proficiency. I am going to trade in my ion pistol (Light slot) for the mil SMG for a bit so I can get a better grasp. The miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.Wizard Talk
DEZKA DIABLO THE FOOTCLAN 732	Posted - 2014.10.30 17:41:00 - [3] - Quote Personally i think it sucks compared to before, except the breach DONT EVER COMPLAIN, USE CAPS LOCK OR POINT OUT WHAT BROKEN WITH OUR GAME OR WE WILL DEFINITELY BAN YOUR ASS FOR 6 MONTHS
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1475	Posted - 2014.10.30 17:53:00 - [4] - Quote the breach is a great smg assault not soo much. smg needs alot of sp invested into sharpshooting to be any good at distances over 5-10meters [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Son-Of A-Gun Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1383	Posted - 2014.10.30 17:57:00 - [5] - Quote Blueprint For Murder wrote: I was wondering what everyone thinks about SMG TTK(time to kill) at both close and mid ranges. The last few days I have been shredded by SMGs at ranges that would seem to be outside its capacity but kill with amazing proficiency. I am going to trade in my ion pistol (Light slot) for the mil SMG for a bit so I can get a better grasp. SMG's always been a great weapon. Currently I am skilled into proficiency with ScP, MS, and IP. When the respec comes around, I am dumping the ScP and MS, keeping the IP, and going pro with the SMG (I liked the MS when it first came out but I've been gone a while and something has changed about it; I used to like the ScP's RoF but that's been changed to; at least the IP is awesome). I also have proficiency in AR, ScR, and RR, but I am dumping the RR and ScR, for the CR, PLC and LR. That should make for a good bit of fun. Also dumping my Lv 5 SP in heavies and taking my Commando from Lv 3 to Lv 5. Dumping all my SP I vehicles and skilling Lv 5 logi. All Gallente suits. This should make for a good bit of fun. I'm hoping. {:)}{3GÇó>
Blueprint For Murder Immortal Guides 195	Posted - 2014.10.30 18:06:00 - [6] - Quote Lol I almost feel bad with the suit rep changes I went shield tank and the smg gives me longer range so I am pretty much a strife scout minus some range. The miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.Wizard Talk
The Master Race Immortal Guides 200	Posted - 2014.10.30 18:06:00 - [7] - Quote Lol I almost feel bad with the suit rep changes I went shield tank and the smg gives me longer range so I am pretty much a strife scout minus some range. The miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.Wizard Talk
Son-Of A-Gun Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1383	Posted - 2014.10.30 18:18:00 - [8] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: the breach is a great smg assault not soo much. smg needs alot of sp invested into sharpshooting to be any good at distances over 5-10meters The standard SMG actually has a higher DPS than the breach, but I do agree that the breach feels better. The assault has the lowest DPS but, according to the description at least, it has increased range, haven't really played with that variant since before the introduction of the new sidearms and the great sidearm rebalance. Had a game last night, where I was running std LR and the std breach SMG on a Dren scout (ambush). Went 20/0. Killed 8 people with the LR before I ran out of ammo and compact nanos. Then I killed another 12 people with my SMG. I only have Lv 1 in both LR and SMG, so no sharpshooter. {:)}{3GÇó>
Blueprint For Murder Immortal Guides 195	Posted - 2014.10.30 18:40:00 - [9] - Quote Yea the ion is pretty strong in range and if you hit rng willing lol.. I miss the added insult of being killed by the old one though. What I was trying to hit on is a potential overlap between the mag sec and smg I am still playing with the smg and will pick up the mag sec after. Damage profiles/dispersion/range/kick it seems like the smg over preforms at distances it shouldn't. The miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.Wizard Talk
The Master Race Immortal Guides 200	Posted - 2014.10.30 18:40:00 - [10] - Quote Yea the ion is pretty strong in range and if you hit rng willing lol.. I miss the added insult of being killed by the old one though. What I was trying to hit on is a potential overlap between the mag sec and smg I am still playing with the smg and will pick up the mag sec after. Damage profiles/dispersion/range/kick it seems like the smg over preforms at distances it shouldn't. The miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.Wizard Talk
Chief-Shotty WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 361	Posted - 2014.10.31 03:10:00 - [11] - Quote The SMG has a pretty good hipfire spread, you can even hipfire it even when your a bit of distance away....breach SMG for life though. 8-Time New Eden Mass Driver Champion Min Commando Combat Rifle and Mass Driver = FUN and Tears OMG the Tears!! :)
Joel II X Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 4160	Posted - 2014.10.31 03:12:00 - [12] - Quote It's "alright". Not as OP strong as before, though. I still prefer the Ion Pistol. Today, I've learned a few more of its secrets.
Blueprint For Murder Immortal Guides 199	Posted - 2014.10.31 03:14:00 - [13] - Quote OOO Do tell lol is it that it jams The miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.Wizard Talk
The Master Race Immortal Guides 200	Posted - 2014.10.31 03:14:00 - [14] - Quote OOO Do tell lol is it that it jams The miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.Wizard Talk
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2702	Posted - 2014.10.31 03:18:00 - [15] - Quote Its probably cause you armor tank. "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ Give the Minja active dampening!--By Bor
Ahkhomi Cypher Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 341	Posted - 2014.10.31 03:32:00 - [16] - Quote I personally feel like the projectile damage profile change made the SMG worse BUT made the CR better. I have no numbers or logical theories as to why besides "feel different when i shoot people". The SMG is still good. Its just not LOLiwreckedthatheavy good anymore. Opus Arcana \| TBD Ringleader Hi
Lloyd Orfay Commando Perkone Caldari State 144	Posted - 2014.10.31 03:44:00 - [17] - Quote Delta sidearm change really needs to be reverted, because sidearms shouldn't be killing people in 1 through 3 hits, or be acting like a primary weapon. If you use an smg in extreme CQC or ADS alongside the magsec, you will kill a player very, very fast. Only thing that may make the SMG bad for players is lack of aim assist. People that can't achieve greatness without exploitation don't deserve to exist. Enroll in scout erradication today.
Eruditus 920 Nemo Malus Felix 654	Posted - 2014.10.31 03:51:00 - [18] - Quote Blueprint For Murder wrote: I was wondering what everyone thinks about SMG TTK(time to kill) at both close and mid ranges. The last few days I have been shredded by SMGs at ranges that would seem to be outside its capacity but kill with amazing proficiency. I am going to trade in my ion pistol (Light slot) for the mil SMG for a bit so I can get a better grasp. Hmmm, so your sayin' it killed ya. Let's start a petition to nerf it. Whaddaya say? Oh, wait, so you say you are going skill it? Let's start a petiton to buff it. Whaddaya say? "Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
Joel II X Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 4161	Posted - 2014.10.31 03:53:00 - [19] - Quote Blueprint For Murder wrote: OOO Do tell lol is it that it jams Quite the opposite, but only I'm allowed to know There's a secret to the jamming "mechanic".
Blueprint For Murder Immortal Guides 199	Posted - 2014.10.31 04:08:00 - [20] - Quote I use the ion pistol as my main weapon so I am sure I know, but it gets me killed much more often then it benefits me. Eru bro I would like if they nerfed the ion back to pre delta so I could have the added insult of killing people with it again... I wouldn't mind keeping the lower seize duration though. Stay gold ponyboy... The miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.Wizard Talk
The Master Race Immortal Guides 200	Posted - 2014.10.31 04:08:00 - [21] - Quote I use the ion pistol as my main weapon so I am sure I know, but it gets me killed much more often then it benefits me. Eru bro I would like if they nerfed the ion back to pre delta so I could have the added insult of killing people with it again... I wouldn't mind keeping the lower seize duration though. Stay gold ponyboy... The miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.Wizard Talk
Eruditus 920 Nemo Malus Felix 655	Posted - 2014.10.31 04:11:00 - [22] - Quote Blueprint For Murder wrote: I use the ion pistol as my main weapon so I am sure I know, but it gets me killed much more often then it benefits me. Eru bro I would like if they nerfed the ion back to pre delta so I could have the added insult of killing people with it again... I wouldn't mind keeping the lower seize duration though. Stay gold ponyboy... Indeed. Stay gold... "Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 8175	Posted - 2014.10.31 04:15:00 - [23] - Quote I just want an anti shield Submachine gun. Assault Ion Pistol plz CCP holds the Caldari's hand so this doesn't happen again.
VikingKong iBUN Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 147	Posted - 2014.10.31 05:35:00 - [24] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: I just want an anti shield Submachine gun. Assault Ion Pistol plz Gieb Amarr and Gallente SMGs pls pls pls
xavier zor G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 150	Posted - 2014.10.31 06:08:00 - [25] - Quote Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Blueprint For Murder wrote: I was wondering what everyone thinks about SMG TTK(time to kill) at both close and mid ranges. The last few days I have been shredded by SMGs at ranges that would seem to be outside its capacity but kill with amazing proficiency. I am going to trade in my ion pistol (Light slot) for the mil SMG for a bit so I can get a better grasp. SMG's always been a great weapon. Currently I am skilled into proficiency with ScP, MS, and IP. When the respec comes around, I am dumping the ScP and MS, keeping the IP, and going pro with the SMG (I liked the MS when it first came out but I've been gone a while and something has changed about it; I used to like the ScP's RoF but that's been changed to; at least the IP is awesome). I also have proficiency in AR, ScR, and RR, but I am dumping the RR and ScR, for the CR, PLC and LR. That should make for a good bit of fun. Also dumping my Lv 5 SP in sentinel and taking my Commando from Lv 3 to Lv 5. Dumping all my SP in vehicles and skilling Lv 5 logi. All Gallente suits. This should make for a good bit of fun. I'm hoping. I read it all...now read mine *****! jokes I am removing all my AR skills which are 5 and dumping them into Combat Rifles. Keeping Nova Knives max, getting sharpshooter V and rapid reload V on SMG's. Skilling into minmitar scout 5 with cores, uplinks, precision, dampening, shield and systems hacking. then i should have some left over from 20,000,000 By the way OP, submachine guns are a great spray-and-pray weapon when the user is 1 shot away from dead. And they have decent range scout ck.0 here!

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