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S-PANZA
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.10.29 20:15:00 -
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With bullet trail increased, with 1.9, on sniper rifles it will be the end of snipers. Every visible shot taken will give up the snipers position, which are a limited number so re-positioning after every shot is not a viable solution.
Stealthy dampened snipers will not be possible so the only viable sniper will be a tanked sentinnel or heavy ... maybe (considering OHK with headshot).
So R.I.P. snipers the sniper haters have finally broken you. |
Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1893
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Posted - 2014.10.29 20:17:00 -
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Good.
Pick up a real weapon, leave the redline, and help your damn team!
(Can you tell I'm not fond of snipers? ) |
Kallas Hallytyr
Skullbreakers
842
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Posted - 2014.10.29 20:20:00 -
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Maybe change positions after a few shots?
Alt of Halla Murr. Sentinel.
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Operative 1125 Lokaas
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
557
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Posted - 2014.10.29 20:22:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:Good. Pick up a real weapon, leave the redline, and help your damn team! (Can you tell I'm not fond of snipers? )
As if the weapon and the role are the problem. Again, I'm just as tired of useless assaults.
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Boot Booter
Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance
1007
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Posted - 2014.10.29 20:23:00 -
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Snipers will be fine.
What happened to the repair tool glow?
Why won't CCP answer?
Conspiracy?
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Blueprint For Murder
Immortal Guides
193
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Posted - 2014.10.29 20:24:00 -
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Lol if you gimps would have actually played outside of the red line liked asked to then there would be no need to. You brought it upon yourself do to your constant exploitation of broken mechanics gg.
The miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.Wizard Talk
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Maken Tosch
Dust University Ivy League
9983
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Posted - 2014.10.29 20:29:00 -
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Trail or no trail, it doesn't matter to me. All I need is to hear the sound of the shot and then I found you. Then I will stab you while you're sniping on that hill.
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Joel II X
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
4126
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Posted - 2014.10.29 20:31:00 -
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You're overestimating the wits of berries. |
Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1897
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Posted - 2014.10.29 20:33:00 -
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Operative 1125 Lokaas wrote:Leadfoot10 wrote:Good. Pick up a real weapon, leave the redline, and help your damn team! (Can you tell I'm not fond of snipers? ) As if the weapon and the role are the problem. Again, I'm just as tired of useless assaults.
Me too, but at least they're killable and their suit/weapon are capable of doing something useful. :)
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S-PANZA
Expert Intervention Caldari State
74
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Posted - 2014.10.29 20:33:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Trail or no trail, it doesn't matter to me. All I need is to hear the sound of the shot and then I found you. Then I will stab you while you're sniping on that hill.
Not if I see you first... oh no wait now youll see me first with a flare gun trail.
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Kensai Dragon
Dust University Ivy League
20
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Posted - 2014.10.29 20:36:00 -
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Lol, another '* suit is dead' thread. So, ADS is dead, Scouts are dead, Assaults are useless, and now Snipers are dead. Sounds like the only things you'll see in 1.9 are gonna be Commandos, Sentinel/Logi combos, and Tanks! |
Blueprint For Murder
Immortal Guides
193
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Posted - 2014.10.29 20:40:00 -
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It won't really have that much effect other then who will be able to find you. I player with a little bit of exp would quick scope find you in seconds after hit or death and now everyone will be able to see the trail so even if a nooberry gets hit your position is exposed... sounds perfect until you consider that even if they know where a sniper is it doesn't matter because they are actually in a warzone where the sniper is not..
The miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.Wizard Talk
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Grainne Maire
Nos Nothi
23
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Posted - 2014.10.29 20:47:00 -
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Snipers will be fine. Bullet trail already exists. I guess nobody has been paying attention. That doesn't surprise me though. I consistently find blueberries running around with no regards to cover and climbing on pipes and overhead structures shooting down on guys. Just because you don't use your head and think about those things does not mean snipers should be nerfed out of their role. The best thing non snipers can do is elect to not be a target. That would nerf them more than what CCP has done.
It will be interesting to see how long the bullet trails will persist with 1.9
Kodho's really crappy, do nothing alt
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S-PANZA
Expert Intervention Caldari State
74
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Posted - 2014.10.29 20:51:00 -
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Grainne Maire wrote:Snipers will be fine. Bullet trail already exists. I guess nobody has been paying attention. That doesn't surprise me though. I consistently find blueberries running around with no regards to cover and climbing on pipes and overhead structures shooting down on guys. Just because you don't use your head and think about those things does not mean snipers should be nerfed out of their role. The best thing non snipers can do is elect to not be a target. That would nerf them more than what CCP has done.
It will be interesting to see how long the bullet trails will persist with 1.9
Yes trails presently exist and snipers can be found now with a little deduction and effort. So whats the reason bullet trail needs to be increased?
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Meisterjager Jagermeister
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
383
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Posted - 2014.10.29 21:26:00 -
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S-PANZA wrote:So whats the reason bullet trail needs to be increased? Someone sniped Rattati. He's mad bro.
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Aeon Amadi
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
6822
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Posted - 2014.10.29 21:31:00 -
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S-PANZA wrote: With bullet trail increased, with 1.9, on sniper rifles it will be the end of snipers. Every visible shot taken will give up the snipers position, which are a limited number so re-positioning after every shot is not a viable solution.
Stealthy dampened snipers will not be possible so the only viable sniper will be a tanked sentinnel or heavy ... maybe (considering OHK with headshot).
So R.I.P. snipers the sniper haters have finally broken you.
I'm looking forward to it. I think the drop in numbers might be the push CCP needs to bring back the original ranges
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S-PANZA
Expert Intervention Caldari State
77
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Posted - 2014.10.29 21:47:00 -
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Blueprint For Murder wrote:Lol if you gimps would have actually played outside of the red line liked asked to then there would be no need to. You brought it upon yourself do to your constant exploitation.
Who even cares lol snipers are nothing but worthless retards that are so afraid to die they end up being liabilities to there team all they do is exploit mechanics for kills in the red zone RIPR.
Are you related to the described snipers... hint-due and their. |
Blueprint For Murder
Immortal Guides
193
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Posted - 2014.10.29 21:57:00 -
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Lol I guess if bad grammar while typing in a fit of rage makes you a worthless ******. If you are going to correct someone you should at least do a complete job of it makes it seem less petty... thanks for the corrections.
The miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.Wizard Talk
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Derpty Derp
Dead Man's Game RUST415
601
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Posted - 2014.10.29 21:58:00 -
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S-PANZA wrote: With bullet trail increased, with 1.9, on sniper rifles it will be the end of snipers. Every visible shot taken will give up the snipers position, which are a limited number so re-positioning after every shot is not a viable solution.
Stealthy dampened snipers will not be possible so the only viable sniper will be a tanked sentinnel or heavy ... maybe (considering OHK with headshot).
So R.I.P. snipers the sniper haters have finally broken you.
Maybe run with a squad and help them pick off the targets they can't reach, while they pick off the targets sneaking up behind you? |
S-PANZA
Expert Intervention Caldari State
77
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Posted - 2014.10.29 22:02:00 -
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Derpty Derp wrote:S-PANZA wrote: With bullet trail increased, with 1.9, on sniper rifles it will be the end of snipers. Every visible shot taken will give up the snipers position, which are a limited number so re-positioning after every shot is not a viable solution.
Stealthy dampened snipers will not be possible so the only viable sniper will be a tanked sentinnel or heavy ... maybe (considering OHK with headshot).
So R.I.P. snipers the sniper haters have finally broken you.
Maybe run with a squad and help them pick off the targets they can't reach, while they pick off the targets sneaking up behind you? Edit- Whenever a sniper shoots me at the moment I can figure out where they are and if it's too far to run (lazy fat commandooooo) then I'll get an ads and pew pew...
Thats not how snipers roll...
EDIT: Lol at squad watching snipers back. |
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Derpty Derp
Dead Man's Game RUST415
604
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Posted - 2014.10.29 22:04:00 -
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S-PANZA wrote:Derpty Derp wrote:S-PANZA wrote: With bullet trail increased, with 1.9, on sniper rifles it will be the end of snipers. Every visible shot taken will give up the snipers position, which are a limited number so re-positioning after every shot is not a viable solution.
Stealthy dampened snipers will not be possible so the only viable sniper will be a tanked sentinnel or heavy ... maybe (considering OHK with headshot).
So R.I.P. snipers the sniper haters have finally broken you.
Maybe run with a squad and help them pick off the targets they can't reach, while they pick off the targets sneaking up behind you? Edit- Whenever a sniper shoots me at the moment I can figure out where they are and if it's too far to run (lazy fat commandooooo) then I'll get an ads and pew pew... Thats not how snipers roll...
That's not how the majority of bad snipers roll ^ ^... Hence why they aren't welcome in most teams and why they get killed so easily. |
Blueprint For Murder
Immortal Guides
193
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Posted - 2014.10.29 22:08:00 -
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I would say lack of combat exp plays a large role also when all you do is tunnel vision in the red zone you don't have to learn to play.
The miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.Wizard Talk
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S-PANZA
Expert Intervention Caldari State
77
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Posted - 2014.10.29 22:31:00 -
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Blueprint For Murder wrote:I would say lack of combat exp plays a large role also when all you do is tunnel vision in the red zone you don't have to learn to play.
A bit presumptuous that all snipers are red zone snipers. Suggesting that your play style is the only way to be combat experienced is indicative of tunnel vision.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2014.10.29 23:04:00 -
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Snipers already died out due the fact that the vast majority of would-be Sniper spots are blocked by something as stupid as railings or fences, and it doesn't seem as if 1.9 will be addressing this either.
That, and in most situations you'd be better off Sniping with a FG since each hit is a OHK regardless of body shots. Most Snipers you see nowadays aren't even Snipers, they're just AFKers in disguise.
The 1st Matari Commando
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Blueprint For Murder
Immortal Guides
193
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Posted - 2014.10.29 23:07:00 -
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"That's not how the majority of bad snipers roll ^ ^... Hence why they aren't welcome in most teams and why they get killed so easily."
S-PANZA wrote:Blueprint For Murder wrote:I would say lack of combat exp plays a large role also when all you do is tunnel vision in the red zone you don't have to learn to play. A bit presumptuous that all snipers are red zone snipers. Suggesting that your play style is the only way to be combat experienced is indicative of tunnel vision.
Even when you take my comment out of context it only slightly resembles what you have written there /rolls eyes. As for my play style it is what ever fits the needs of my team once victory is in hand I then choose what ever I fancy. I will not respond to any further personal attacks... you are not worth my time.
The miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.Wizard Talk
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Zindorak
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
1184
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Posted - 2014.10.29 23:57:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:Good. Pick up a real weapon, leave the redline, and help your damn team! (Can you tell I'm not fond of snipers? ) pretty much
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Louis Domi
Y.A.M.A.H
680
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Posted - 2014.10.30 01:01:00 -
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So much sniper hate... I've seen people snipe outside of the redline... I snipe outside the redline. I know I cant say anything regarding the people inside the redline, but I'll sure as hell defend those who I know snipe outside it. (As it turns out I don't know all to many people sniping outside redline...Did see this one commando who wasn't in his redline(Just a little outside of it), but seconds later I knifed him in the back, but then his redline proto assualt sniper friend took me out... You know I've just now come to terms that people are just assholes. Hate the scrub not the gun) |
Atiim
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Posted - 2014.10.30 01:08:00 -
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Blueprint For Murder wrote:"That's not how the majority of bad snipers roll ^ ^... Hence why they aren't welcome in most teams and why they get killed so easily."
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Even when you take my comment out of context it only slightly resembles what you have written there /rolls eyes. As for my play style it is what ever fits the needs of my team once victory is in hand I then choose what ever I fancy. I will not respond to any further personal attacks... you are not worth my time. The points made in your post:
*Lack of combat experience plays a large part in why players become Snipers *All Snipers do is "tunnel vision" inside the redline.
Given that his response addresses all of the points you made within that post, he didn't take the post out of context by any standards.
As for "not responding to any more personal attacks", that's funny considering how virtually all of the posts you've made on this thread (and about Snipers in general), have been nothing but personal attacks, logical fallacies, and generalizations.
The 1st Matari Commando
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Raptor Princess
ALLOTEC INC
63
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Posted - 2014.10.30 01:10:00 -
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I'm more concerned about the maps- cover is being added to the ones you can defend with a sniper rifle, and the new maps are all in buildings. Unless there's hidey holes, snipers will be useless. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
17552
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Posted - 2014.10.30 01:29:00 -
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Funny thing is; this is a fix to a problem that somewhat cropped up when they did the new draw distance system.
The same exact problem as to why dropship pilots cannot see a swarm launch. Shooter himself is not rendering.
CPM 1
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior
\\= Prototype Forge Gun=// Unlocked
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Blueprint For Murder
Immortal Guides
193
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Posted - 2014.10.30 01:50:00 -
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lol Obvious generalizations, but they are not without exception. Generalization - a proposition asserting something to be true either of all members of a certain class or of an indefinite part of that class... I guess you guys misunderstood. There is a difference between addressing the sniper class and addressing someone personally. It is funny for some reason I expected more from you attim anyway as much as I like talking about myself could we continue with the topic now?... thanks.
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people. - Eleanor Roosevelt
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