DUST Search - Legion is in John Wick

Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:

Maken Tosch wrote:

Dux Bunny wrote:

Yeah no kidding. This shows the devs are dicks and aren't being transparent with their progress to their do voted community.

Way to go CCP. : P

CCP is not obligated by any laws to keep you informed. Also, you have to understand that video game companies often keep things a secret because... well... let's face it. We players are the true dicks around here. We jump to conclusions before we even have any definitive evidence and tend to overreact when we don't understand something. We come up with wild conspiracy theories about what CCP is really doing. Theories that often make the Brian Helgeland Film look rational. We constantly accuse the CPM of being in bed with CCP. We constantly bring up all of their mistakes of the past ($1000 jeans anyone?).

Yet some of us here have the arrogance to call CCP a bunch of dicks. Hilarious.

Well CCP f*cked with a lot of things when it comes to dust so it is reasonible for it's playerbase to question how it is doing things the second time around.

If i have problem with an apple product and whenever i call customer support they pick up the phone say "F*ck off" then hang up. You are not going to make a lot of people happy by doing this although you can, then you will just be developing the product for no one because you alienate your player base. Just because there is no law binding them to something does not mean they should be allowed to get away with whatever they want because we are the people paying for the game.

I think the first person you quoted is a dumbass but none the less a lot of people have the right to be concerned with the way CCP is doing things.

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Forlorn Destrier Havok Dynasty 2822	Posted - 2014.10.25 02:31:00 - [31] - Quote Just saw John Wick - and damn the quality of Legion looks great! As for those pissed at CCP - this was not someone playing the game, it was just video that lasted about 10 seconds. Also, quit feeling entitled. CCP has no obligation to show you anything - the fact that they include you in what they have is their prerogative. Enjoy what you have and be an adult. I am the Forgotten Warhorse, the Lord of Lightning
hold that Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 296	Posted - 2014.10.25 02:50:00 - [32] - Quote yeah i saw that ** too it flashes 3 times to gameplay like for 5-10 secs every time i was like holy **, is that dust? John Wick was pretty good. There was a lot of badass small arms fire
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Gentlemen's.Club 5610	Posted - 2014.10.25 05:10:00 - [33] - Quote time to go watch a movie i had no interest in until 1 minute ago... EVE 21 Day Trial Templar BPOs 350Mil ISK
Charli Chaplin jr New Age Empire. 16	Posted - 2014.10.25 05:47:00 - [34] - Quote They probably payed some isk to the guy that made the movie. ACCEPT YOUR FATE LIKE I ACCEPTED MINE.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9867	Posted - 2014.10.25 06:11:00 - [35] - Quote Ok CCP, how much in Royalties are you getting from this movie? I have to admit this is a clever way to make a buck. XD On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9869	Posted - 2014.10.25 06:34:00 - [36] - Quote Dux Bunny wrote: Yeah no kidding. This shows the devs are dicks and aren't being transparent with their progress to their do voted community. Way to go CCP. : P CCP is not obligated by any laws to keep you informed. Also, you have to understand that video game companies often keep things a secret because... well... let's face it. We players are the true dicks around here. We jump to conclusions before we even have any definitive evidence and tend to overreact when we don't understand something. We come up with wild conspiracy theories about what CCP is really doing. Theories that often make the Brian Helgeland Film look rational. We constantly accuse the CPM of being in bed with CCP. We constantly bring up all of their mistakes of the past ($1000 jeans anyone?). Yet some of us here have the arrogance to call CCP a bunch of dicks. Hilarious. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Hakyou Brutor Second-Nature 1447	Posted - 2014.10.25 06:38:00 - [37] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Dux Bunny wrote: Yeah no kidding. This shows the devs are dicks and aren't being transparent with their progress to their do voted community. Way to go CCP. : P CCP is not obligated by any laws to keep you informed. Also, you have to understand that video game companies often keep things a secret because... well... let's face it. We players are the true dicks around here. We jump to conclusions before we even have any definitive evidence and tend to overreact when we don't understand something. We come up with wild conspiracy theories about what CCP is really doing. Theories that often make the Brian Helgeland Film look rational. We constantly accuse the CPM of being in bed with CCP. We constantly bring up all of their mistakes of the past ($1000 jeans anyone?). Yet some of us here have the arrogance to call CCP a bunch of dicks. Hilarious. ccp alt
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9870	Posted - 2014.10.25 06:58:00 - [38] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Dux Bunny wrote: Yeah no kidding. This shows the devs are dicks and aren't being transparent with their progress to their do voted community. Way to go CCP. : P CCP is not obligated by any laws to keep you informed. Also, you have to understand that video game companies often keep things a secret because... well... let's face it. We players are the true dicks around here. We jump to conclusions before we even have any definitive evidence and tend to overreact when we don't understand something. We come up with wild conspiracy theories about what CCP is really doing. Theories that often make the Brian Helgeland Film look rational. We constantly accuse the CPM of being in bed with CCP. We constantly bring up all of their mistakes of the past ($1000 jeans anyone?). Yet some of us here have the arrogance to call CCP a bunch of dicks. Hilarious. ccp alt Ahem, I'm a **** to CCP as well. Anyone here who knows me well enough will tell you that I have no problem calling out on CCP's mistakes. Someone has to constantly remind CCP of their Rouge Wedding, or Monoclegate, or their failed Incarna expansion, or their $1000 jeans analogy, or Greed is Good letter, or failure of World of Darkness, or their Boot.ini, and mismanagement of their staff. I can go on. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Gentlemen's.Club 5613	Posted - 2014.10.25 07:13:00 - [39] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Dux Bunny wrote: Yeah no kidding. This shows the devs are dicks and aren't being transparent with their progress to their do voted community. Way to go CCP. : P CCP is not obligated by any laws to keep you informed. Also, you have to understand that video game companies often keep things a secret because... well... let's face it. We players are the true dicks around here. We jump to conclusions before we even have any definitive evidence and tend to overreact when we don't understand something. We come up with wild conspiracy theories about what CCP is really doing. Theories that often make the Brian Helgeland Film look rational. We constantly accuse the CPM of being in bed with CCP. We constantly bring up all of their mistakes of the past ($1000 jeans anyone?). Yet some of us here have the arrogance to call CCP a bunch of dicks. Hilarious. Well CCP fcked with a lot of things when it comes to dust so it is reasonible for it's playerbase to question how it is doing things the second time around. If i have problem with an apple product and whenever i call customer support they pick up the phone say "Fck off" then hang up. You are not going to make a lot of people happy then you will just be developing the product for no one. Just because there is no law binding them to something does not mean they should be allowed to get away with whatever they want because we are the people paying for the game. I think the first person you quoted is a dumbass but none the less a lot of people have the right to be concerned with the way CCP is doing things. EVE 21 Day Trial Templar BPOs 350Mil ISK
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9870	Posted - 2014.10.25 07:25:00 - [40] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Dux Bunny wrote: Yeah no kidding. This shows the devs are dicks and aren't being transparent with their progress to their do voted community. Way to go CCP. : P CCP is not obligated by any laws to keep you informed. Also, you have to understand that video game companies often keep things a secret because... well... let's face it. We players are the true dicks around here. We jump to conclusions before we even have any definitive evidence and tend to overreact when we don't understand something. We come up with wild conspiracy theories about what CCP is really doing. Theories that often make the Brian Helgeland Film look rational. We constantly accuse the CPM of being in bed with CCP. We constantly bring up all of their mistakes of the past ($1000 jeans anyone?). Yet some of us here have the arrogance to call CCP a bunch of dicks. Hilarious. Well CCP fcked with a lot of things when it comes to dust so it is reasonible for it's playerbase to question how it is doing things the second time around. If i have problem with an apple product and whenever i call customer support they pick up the phone say "Fck off" then hang up. You are not going to make a lot of people happy by doing this although you can, then you will just be developing the product for no one because you alienate your player base. Just because there is no law binding them to something does not mean they should be allowed to get away with whatever they want because we are the people paying for the game. I think the first person you quoted is a dumbass but none the less a lot of people have the right to be concerned with the way CCP is doing things. True. We should be reasonably critical of CCP at times. But does that mean we should always resort to wild accusations and conspiracy theories like what I have seen the community (both in Dust and in Eve Online) do for years? On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.

Jebus McKing lol Proto 798	Posted - 2014.10.25 07:52:00 - [41] - Quote I don't know but after all we've been through with this game and after all the feedback we've been giving and trying to help CCP shape this game I honestly have the feeling that if they have something to show we should be the first audience to see it. We haven't heard anything about legion in months even though we have been begging for more information or just a sign that the game is alive/greenlit and now some people watching a random movie are gonna see new footage before we do? Bad taste. I mean where is the problem? If you have footage that you are willing to show a ton of people in the theatres why not show it to us, your loyal player base? DUST514 is love // @JebusMcKing
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9870	Posted - 2014.10.25 08:42:00 - [42] - Quote Jebus McKing wrote: I don't know but after all we've been through with this game and after all the feedback we've been giving and trying to help CCP shape this game I honestly have the feeling that if they have something to show we should be the first audience to see it. We haven't heard anything about legion in months even though we have been begging for more information or just a sign that the game is alive/greenlit and now some people watching a random movie are gonna see new footage before we do? Bad taste. I mean where is the problem? If you have footage that you are willing to show a ton of people in the theatres why not show it to us, your loyal player base? I see what you mean. I would feel bummed out too. But let's be realistic here. How many of those people in theaters would even recognize Project Legion in a 5-10-second scene in a 2-hour film? Despite all of the media attention given to Project Legion some time ago, the vast majority of the public at large don't even know Legion exists at all. I still run into people in real life and online who never even heard of Dust let alone Legion. I bet the vast majority of the audience didn't even realize they were the first to see a glimpse of Project Legion. Kind of like that one scene from the movie Demolition Man where Sylvester Stallone's character heard from this female character that there is an Arnold Schwarzenegger Presidential Library in San Angeles. It was a funny scene and no one took it seriously because it was funny. Fast forward from that and eventually Arnold (in real life) became the Governor of California (out of office by now obviously). It's going to be the same **** all over again with John Wick and that one scene of Project Legion when everyone looks back at this movie and think "holy crap, I never knew". On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Jebus McKing lol Proto 798	Posted - 2014.10.25 11:48:00 - [43] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: How many of those people in theaters would even recognize Project Legion in a 5-10-second scene in a 2-hour film? Despite all of the media attention given to Project Legion some time ago, the vast majority of the public at large don't even know Legion exists at all. I still run into people in real life and online who never even heard of Dust let alone Legion. I bet the vast majority of the audience didn't even realize they were the first to see a glimpse of Project Legion. And that makes it even worse, doesn't it? Instead of showing your new footage to the people that genuinely care for your product and are dying to know what is going on, they give it to an audience that is indifferent towards it at best. It doesn't matter how insignificant the footage is, it might not even be worth discussing really. You know, I don't want to exaggerate and make a moutain out of a molehill but from my perspective this has something to do with respect. And it sometimes seems to me that CCP, or at least their guys in marketing, don't show an awful lot of it towards the DUST player base. If they have footage that they are willing to show to the public, then I really don't understand why they aren't showing it to us as well. Anyway, no big deal, really, just slightly disappointed. DUST514 is love // @JebusMcKing
CharacterNameWasTaken G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 143	Posted - 2014.10.25 12:27:00 - [44] - Quote STYLIE77 wrote: Not Jadek Menaheim wrote: EVE: Legion gameplay footage used with permission. -¬ 2014 CCP hf. All rights reserved. "CCP", "EVE: Legion", and "EVE Online" are trademarks or registered trademarks of CCP hf. in the United States and other jurisdictions. Scroll down to page 51. It's in there. http://www.lionsgatepublicity.com/uploads/assets/JOHN%20WICK%20FINAL%20Production%20Notes.pdf Great catch, and product placement usually requires a corp to pay the movie studio. Which means advertising budget. Which means green light on Eve: Legion. no it was probably from all the aur you guys bought to get all those bpos.
sabre prime Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 638	Posted - 2014.10.25 13:08:00 - [45] - Quote The movie is supposed to be really good. Can't believe it has legion gameplay in it. Hopefully this means some gameplay videos will actually be released by CCP, on you know, like their YouTube channel. So weird how footage from a unfinished unreleased game made it's way into the latest Keanu Reeves movie. Must be a story there. The slow blade penetrates the shield.
medomai grey WarRavens Capital Punishment. 1054	Posted - 2014.10.25 13:37:00 - [46] - Quote Wait... This isn't a troll? ... WTF? How to balance cloaks.
Grimmiers 665	Posted - 2014.10.25 13:49:00 - [47] - Quote I wanna see the footage T__T
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2260	Posted - 2014.10.25 15:00:00 - [48] - Quote Hmmmm...i wonder who Keanu's Dust character is? PSN: RationalSpark
Hawk-eye Occultus ARKOMBlNE 392	Posted - 2014.10.25 16:51:00 - [49] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: Hmmmm...i wonder who Keanu's Dust character is? "The One" In the beginning...
Darth-Carbonite GIO Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 1016	Posted - 2014.10.25 17:01:00 - [50] - Quote Holy hell. Why you so sly, CCP The Incubus is Broken Judge Rhadamanthus is my Hero

Darth-Carbonite GIO Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 1017	Posted - 2014.10.26 02:06:00 - [51] - Quote Can confirm this is completely true. The movie was pretty good too The Incubus is Broken Judge Rhadamanthus is my Hero
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 4046	Posted - 2014.10.26 02:32:00 - [52] - Quote @Darth-Carbonite GIO Was there anything different about the map or other particular details you noticed? Try the new Planetary Conquest Mode!
MrShooter01 Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 917	Posted - 2014.10.26 03:12:00 - [53] - Quote going to plug fandango which is handing out a steam key for PayDay 2 with the purchase of a ticket on their website I guess I'm going to a $5 matinee next week while I download all 20 gigabytes of payday 2
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens Capital Punishment. 2109	Posted - 2014.10.26 03:16:00 - [54] - Quote Not since The Wizard have I wanted to see a movie for the product placement... "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
Darth-Carbonite GIO Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 1018	Posted - 2014.10.26 03:57:00 - [55] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: @Darth-Carbonite GIO Was there anything different about the map or other particular details you noticed? The environment looked pretty slick from what I could tell, but it was some very brief flashes. The "player" was aiming down the sights of what was obviously an Assault Rifle, which of course made it hard to see his surroundings. He was shooting at a basic caldari assault, and getting kill assists. The sound really jumped out at me, because the AR did not sound quite like it does in Dust. A slightly deeper sound I'd say. The biggest "news" (which probably means nothing) was the fact that he was playing on his TV. With a controller. On a console. Of course, he was shot about six seconds later, so who knows what's really true. The first person to make a GIF of CCP snipers capping that guy will have my undying love The Incubus is Broken Judge Rhadamanthus is my Hero
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 4049	Posted - 2014.10.26 04:12:00 - [56] - Quote A PS4 console? Or non-descript prop? Try the new Planetary Conquest Mode!
Hynox Xitio 0uter.Heaven 1726	Posted - 2014.10.26 04:16:00 - [57] - Quote What is this Kojima-tier s**t? I won't scatter your sorrow to the heartless fogwogglers. ( -íº -£-û -íº) /)
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game RUST415 364	Posted - 2014.10.26 05:30:00 - [58] - Quote I caught that too XD Caldari Loyalist I speak for the rabbits
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens Capital Punishment. 2110	Posted - 2014.10.26 05:48:00 - [59] - Quote I believe you can even run a computer game with an iPhone as a controller. A controller and a television screen doesn't mean it is on a console. Here is the stupid thing about that product placement; the only people that are going "ohhh, look at that; I WANT IT!" are people that already know about the damn product! That is like playing ads for Microsoft products while people are standing at the checkout to purchase Office... Go figure that the most interesting thing to come out about Legion is "holy sh**! They purchased ad space!" -»\_(pâä)_/-» "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
Darth-Carbonite GIO Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 1019	Posted - 2014.10.26 05:50:00 - [60] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: A PS4 console? Or non-descript prop? The presumed console was not visible at all, and the controller was implied by the way the guy was holding and moving his hands. He was reclining on a couch, headphones on, staring at a tv about five feet away. That to me says he's playing a console, but it is conceivable that he had his PC rig hooked up to a television and a controller adapter. This guy didn't strike me as the tech savy type though, if you know what I mean The Incubus is Broken Judge Rhadamanthus is my Hero



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