DUST Search - Buff Commandos:

Victor Moody Stahl wrote:

Vulpes Dolosus wrote:

Personally I think the current commando and Logi frames should be switched (with some messing with slots).

As a Logi, I now hate your soul.

Mostly because, as a Logi, my survivability- meaning the lack of it- is less due to "I have less eHP", and more due to "I cannot keep up with the pack of lawlrandumb mediums". Scout issues, are, well scout-related.

But quite frankly, I do not feel like I am not overly survivable in my logi suit because I lack raw health. I feel like my survivability- and ability to be useful to my teammates- is lacking for two reasons:

1. Logis are not especially mobile when on foot- which would only get worse if you swapped the Commando/Logi frame types.

2. 95%+ players treat Logis as a walking, talking rep tool. We are not. In fact, (partly because of this, partly because repping holds all the excitement of window licking, IMO) that's why I don't even have SP invested into rep tools. Nanos/Links/Scans all the way man. Maybe a needle if your lucky.

The other issue I see with such a suggestion is that you basically make the Commando and the Assault far too similar to each other; rather than having them be very different ways of doing similar things, you make them instead be very similar ways of doing the same thing, which is bad.

Of course, as far as Commando buffs go, I doubt we'd get a 3rd light weapon, but I wouldn't mind having, say, a sidearm slot+2 light weapons, like the Imperial Commando ak.0 had for a little while a few hotfixes ago. It was quite entertaining to have a scrambler rifle, mass driver, and scrambler pistol all on one suit (yes, I did indeed take advantage of that).

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Leovarian L Lavitz NECROM0NGERS 1170	Posted - 2014.10.24 10:08:00 - [1] - Quote Third light weapon slot for the lols. Omni-Soldier Few are my equal in these specialties, none compare in all of them
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 18416	Posted - 2014.10.24 11:58:00 - [2] - Quote I believe a commando buff has been mentioned a couple of times but I would hope for something more robust than this. Although I suppose any balance suggestion justified by 'for the lols' ought to be taken with a few pinches of salt. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. GM Scotsman is my hero.
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 2123	Posted - 2014.10.24 12:43:00 - [3] - Quote I guess people have gotten use to commandos as they are but I for one always wished the commando was a light suit or a medium suit frame. "Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro" MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
Vulpes Dolosus Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2338	Posted - 2014.10.24 13:26:00 - [4] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: I guess people have gotten use to commandos as they are but I for one always wished the commando was a light suit or a medium suit frame. Personally I think the current commando and Logi frames should be switched (with some messing with slots). Dust is there! I was real! Dear diary, Rattati senpai noticed me today~
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 4106	Posted - 2014.10.24 13:57:00 - [5] - Quote Commandos are getting the highest innate armor repair rates when the 'Balance Hotfix' drops 10/28. That's kind of a buff, right? And no, three light weapons is silly. Not happening. Maybe increasing the number of slots commandos get though. My advice to you, playa...
Chief-Shotty WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 332	Posted - 2014.10.24 15:39:00 - [6] - Quote Module slots EHP Increase Movement Speed Increase I take all 3 please! 8-Time New Eden Mass Driver Champion Min Commando Combat Rifle and Mass Driver = FUN and Tears OMG the Tears!! :)
Victor Moody Stahl Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 47	Posted - 2014.10.24 16:14:00 - [7] - Quote Vulpes Dolosus wrote: Personally I think the current commando and Logi frames should be switched (with some messing with slots). As a Logi, I now hate your soul. Mostly because, as a Logi, my survivability- meaning the lack of it- is less due to "I have less eHP", and more due to "I cannot keep up with the pack of lawlrandumb mediums". Scout issues, are, well scout-related. But quite frankly, I do not feel like I am not overly survivable in my logi suit because I lack raw health. I feel like my survivability- and ability to be useful to my teammates- is lacking for two reasons: 1. Logis are not especially mobile when on foot- which would only get worse if you swapped the Commando/Logi frame types. 2. 95%+ players treat Logis as a walking, talking rep tool. We are not. In fact, (partly because of this, partly because repping holds all the excitement of window licking, IMO) that's why I don't even have SP invested into rep tools. Nanos/Links/Scans all the way man. Maybe a needle if your lucky. The other issue I see with such a suggestion is that you basically make the Commando and the Assault far too similar to each other; rather than having them be very different ways of doing similar things, you make them instead be very similar ways of doing the same thing, which is bad. Of course, as far as Commando buffs go, I doubt we'd get a 3rd light weapon, but I wouldn't mind having, say, a sidearm slot+2 light weapons, like the Imperial Commando ak.0 had for a little while a few hotfixes ago. It was quite entertaining to have a scrambler rifle, mass driver, and scrambler pistol all on one suit (yes, I did indeed take advantage of that). Buff Logis \| Nerf Goldfish
Skullmiser Vulcansu 152	Posted - 2014.10.25 00:30:00 - [8] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: I guess people have gotten use to commandos as they are but I for one always wished the commando was a light suit or a medium suit frame. Are you all out of Black Eagle Scout suits? Those are nifty, aren't they? If this game was fun, I wouldn't be playing it.
Coleman Gray Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 1255	Posted - 2014.10.25 00:54:00 - [9] - Quote One more mod slot, HP buff...or much better stamina stats would all help lol, I never felt Commando's was in to bad a place until I started playing my quafe assault... Original Commando, before all you posers just saying
Leovarian L Lavitz NECROM0NGERS 1171	Posted - 2014.11.01 10:35:00 - [10] - Quote A proto commando is slightly worse than an advanced assault when it comes to combat, based on personal experience ( best I've ever pulled with a proto commando is 21, I've pulled 48 with an advanced assault) Omni-Soldier Few are my equal in these specialties, none compare in all of them

Slave of MORTE Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 18	Posted - 2014.11.01 12:32:00 - [11] - Quote Speed and recovery buff please Yet another slave of Mortedeamor
VikingKong iBUN T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 152	Posted - 2014.11.01 15:28:00 - [12] - Quote Chief-Shotty wrote: Module slots EHP Increase Movement Speed Increase I take all 3 please! I think just the extra slot and movement speed would make them much more effective
Spademan Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4333	Posted - 2014.11.01 15:42:00 - [13] - Quote Victor Moody Stahl wrote: It was quite entertaining to have a scrambler rifle, mass driver, and scrambler pistol all on one suit (yes, I did indeed take advantage of that). I would think rather lowly of you if you didn't I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special. Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
Victor Moody Stahl Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 84	Posted - 2014.11.01 17:03:00 - [14] - Quote Just out of curiousity... why would you think lowly of me if I hadn't taken advantage of that particular hiccup? Buff Logis \| Nerf Goldfish
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 5747	Posted - 2014.11.01 19:44:00 - [15] - Quote Just give it a grenade slot! Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
danthrax martin Immortal Guides 170	Posted - 2014.11.02 01:58:00 - [16] - Quote My galmando would like another equipment slot Pro Galmando - Gal Sentinel Suicidal A/V Moron I shall overcome spellcheck
Vulpes Dolosus Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2442	Posted - 2014.11.02 02:17:00 - [17] - Quote Victor Moody Stahl wrote: Vulpes Dolosus wrote: Personally I think the current commando and Logi frames should be switched (with some messing with slots). As a Logi, I now hate your soul. Mostly because, as a Logi, my survivability- meaning the lack of it- is less due to "I have less eHP", and more due to "I cannot keep up with the pack of lawlrandumb mediums". Scout issues, are, well scout-related. But quite frankly, I do not feel like I am not overly survivable in my logi suit because I lack raw health. I feel like my survivability- and ability to be useful to my teammates- is lacking for two reasons: 1. Logis are not especially mobile when on foot- which would only get worse if you swapped the Commando/Logi frame types. 2. 95%+ players treat Logis as a walking, talking rep tool. We are not. In fact, (partly because of this, partly because repping holds all the excitement of window licking, IMO) that's why I don't even have SP invested into rep tools. Nanos/Links/Scans all the way man. Maybe a needle if your lucky. The other issue I see with such a suggestion is that you basically make the Commando and the Assault far too similar to each other; rather than having them be very different ways of doing similar things, you make them instead be very similar ways of doing the same thing, which is bad. Of course, as far as Commando buffs go, I doubt we'd get a 3rd light weapon, but I wouldn't mind having, say, a sidearm slot+2 light weapons, like the Imperial Commando ak.0 had for a little while a few hotfixes ago. It was quite entertaining to have a scrambler rifle, mass driver, and scrambler pistol all on one suit (yes, I did indeed take advantage of that). Yeah, I know. I came up with this idea when Slayer-Logis were a big problem and I still kind of like the idea, but I'm not too determined to see it through. My thoughts on it: -Lore-wise, it makes sense for the heavier frames to be able to carry more equipment. -Logi's currently (or at least did) have the most slots, given to make up for their low ehp (I figured that logi's need high defenses to compensate their lack of offense, relying on the people they're repping mainly for killing people). This leads to very combat prone fittings. -To both limit Logi's combat effectiveness (offensively) and keep their high ehp, make them Commando frames to give them higher native values and to lower the slot count. -This also makes them a bit slower, as to really dampen their combat effectiveness. This has the added benefit of slowing troop advancement so they don't "stretch their logistics support." -I though the Sentinel and Heavy-Logi made a neat parallel to Eve Online's Dreadnaught (capital meant for sheer firepower) and Carrier (capital meant as the pinnacle of logistics support). -The Commando would be moved to a Light frame with ultra high damage application bonuses (damage, but also probably range, dispersion, clip size, etc.), being the ultimate glass-cannon. Dust is there! I was real! Dear diary, Rattati senpai noticed me today~
CLONE117 True Pros Forever 859	Posted - 2014.11.02 03:00:00 - [18] - Quote make the galmando green again! Clone117:MLT specialist. Translation:dont mess with me or you lose your kdr.(and isk)


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