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Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1336	Posted - 2014.10.24 04:58:00 - [1] - Quote here is a short list of why we dont us mcru's slow spawn time people get road killed for spawning on them (FW only, maybe PC too) random noobs spawn on you and steal your ride when you get out for a moment to repair or drop an uplink vehicles need to be locked to the player who summoned them for at-least 30 seconds to 1 minute when the person gets out of them, exception to the rule is if they are in your squad. [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Joel II X Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 4017	Posted - 2014.10.24 05:02:00 - [2] - Quote I use them... Yay for points in 1.9!
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 838	Posted - 2014.10.24 05:03:00 - [3] - Quote An Apothecary Za'ki post I agree with? Hell must be pretty chilly... Agreed though, there needs to be a way to prevent someone stealing your vehicle when you're trying to do something constructive. Alt of Halla Murr. Sentinel.
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1336	Posted - 2014.10.24 05:09:00 - [4] - Quote Joel II X wrote: I use them... Yay for points in 1.9! i try to.. but people keep stealing my ride, or i dont even get points cause those noobs get killed before they go kill something.. i mean +15 per kill per person you drop is great but most will die to proto stompers and FOTM scouts meaning 0 points for you.. however if we had +25 points for "spawning" them.. and then the +15 IF/when they get a kill it would be worth while risk vs reward the risks are being road killed when you spawn (Friend fire so FW and/or PC) being very vulnerable to AV weaponry if there is any AV players on field being cannon fodder when you spawn/drop down reward its a mobile CRU War points per "transport kill assist" (when a player you transported kills another player) war points for when a player spawns on your vehicle(hopfully in echo or 1.9) [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1336	Posted - 2014.10.24 05:11:00 - [5] - Quote Kallas Hallytyr wrote: An Apothecary Za'ki post I agree with? Hell must be pretty chilly... Agreed though, there needs to be a way to prevent someone stealing your vehicle when you're trying to do something constructive. hey most of my posts are good but sadly go over the heads of people because of how i formatted it. and FU in the eye :P you were proto stomping just a few minutes ago in pub contracts on your main! [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Lupus Wolf Minmatar Republic 6	Posted - 2014.10.24 05:13:00 - [6] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: vehicles need to be locked to the player who summoned them for at-least 30 seconds to 1 minute when the person gets out of them, exception to the rule is if they are in your squad. A simple eject button would work wonders. Gunnlogis with BLASTERS!?! BLASPHEMY!!! #MissilesFoLyfe \|: Rail/Missile GL< Blaster GL< B Matty< M Matty< Missile GL :\|
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1336	Posted - 2014.10.24 05:17:00 - [7] - Quote Lupus Wolf wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: vehicles need to be locked to the player who summoned them for at-least 30 seconds to 1 minute when the person gets out of them, exception to the rule is if they are in your squad. A simple eject button would work wonders. or maybe just the driver seat is == owner/squad only till 30sec(solo)-1 minute(in a squad) has elapsed [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 8098	Posted - 2014.10.24 05:22:00 - [8] - Quote Because Uplinks are far too convenient and spammable CCP holds the Caldari's hand so this doesn't happen again.
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1336	Posted - 2014.10.24 05:25:00 - [9] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Because Uplinks are far too convenient and spammable yes that too but i was tryign to focus on MCRU's [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Gabriella Grey THE HANDS OF DEATH RUST415 199	Posted - 2014.10.24 05:46:00 - [10] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: here is a short list of why we dont us mcru's slow spawn time people get road killed for spawning on them (FW only, maybe PC too) random noobs spawn on you and steal your ride when you get out for a moment to repair or drop an uplink vehicles need to be locked to the player who summoned them for at-least 30 seconds(solo) to 1 minute(squad) when the person gets out of them, Before a random-berry can take your vehicle, Exception is if its a hostile hacking your vehicle to take it I think the biggest issue with them is that the moment you die you can't spawn. It forces you to bleed out before you can spawn on the mobile cru. Perhaps if CCP removed this they would be used more. I understand that they did this in purpose to it not being abused, but Uplinks can and are far more abused than what a dropship can be as it stands now. *Always Grey Skies* Leader of the Alpaca Commandos

medomai grey WarRavens Capital Punishment. 1047	Posted - 2014.10.24 05:47:00 - [11] - Quote I used to have the problem of people never ever getting out. Then I removed all the turrets I had for self defense and them blueberries couldn't wait to jump out. :D How to balance cloaks.
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1337	Posted - 2014.10.24 05:49:00 - [12] - Quote medomai grey wrote: I used to have the problem of people never ever getting out. Then I removed all the turrets I had for self defense and them blueberries couldn't wait to jump out. :D however i dont think we CAN remove turrets now can we? just checked.. i cannot remove the default weapons on the MLT dropships [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 2122	Posted - 2014.10.24 07:26:00 - [13] - Quote Stick one on an LAV and go cruising...... play some music and do some laps! Dicklord says - "BUT HOW DOES THAT WIN GAMES??!?!" Answer - who gives a damn, I play to have fun. I've been through so many games where half of my team is no where to be found that I honestly stopped caring in those kind of matches. "Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro" MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
Malleus Malificorum Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 121	Posted - 2014.10.24 07:36:00 - [14] - Quote MCRU's could be much improved by activating them like a module - Turn them on people can spawn (durational limit). Turn them off people cant spawn anymore. Weep not poor children, For life is this way, Murdering beauty and passion.
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1342	Posted - 2014.10.24 08:39:00 - [15] - Quote Malleus Malificorum wrote: MCRU's could be much improved by activating them like a module - Turn them on people can spawn (durational limit). Turn them off people cant spawn anymore. since it would be an "active" modual maybe it should have faster spawn time because it has more available power then a beacon [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Jack Boost Zarena Family 472	Posted - 2014.10.24 08:57:00 - [16] - Quote Since it is vehicle module - activating it just deploy 10 uses instalation in place (even i the air ;) for short time. Not much time left...
Blueprint For Murder Immortal Guides 166	Posted - 2014.10.24 09:03:00 - [17] - Quote I use them also I agree with the people stealing my ride and would like to add it is buggy and sometimes will not allow people to spawn in. The miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.Wizard Talk
The Master Race Immortal Guides 166	Posted - 2014.10.24 09:03:00 - [18] - Quote I use them also I agree with the people stealing my ride and would like to add it is buggy and sometimes will not allow people to spawn in. The miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.Wizard Talk
medomai grey WarRavens Capital Punishment. 1048	Posted - 2014.10.24 10:43:00 - [19] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: medomai grey wrote: I used to have the problem of people never ever getting out. Then I removed all the turrets I had for self defense and them blueberries couldn't wait to jump out. :D however i dont think we CAN remove turrets now can we? just checked.. i cannot remove the default weapons on the MLT dropships You can remove turrets on std. dropships. How to balance cloaks.
NextDark Knight Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 506	Posted - 2014.10.24 11:18:00 - [20] - Quote Mobile CRU don't show up all the time on the map. 90% of the time my squad can't see my mCRU until 30 seconds after I'm active with it. Over 50 Million SP and almost full proto in all Caldari Suits. No matter how hard CCP tries Dust just won't die on PS3/4

Operative 1125 Lokaas True Companion Planetary Requisitions 524	Posted - 2014.10.24 11:24:00 - [21] - Quote medomai grey wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: medomai grey wrote: I used to have the problem of people never ever getting out. Then I removed all the turrets I had for self defense and them blueberries couldn't wait to jump out. :D however i dont think we CAN remove turrets now can we? just checked.. i cannot remove the default weapons on the MLT dropships You can remove turrets on std. dropships. Just add basic rail turrets to replace the mil ones prefitted. They'll jump out real fast too. THIS IS THE VOICE OF RÁN
Horizon Limit Nexus Balusa Horizon 95	Posted - 2014.10.24 12:55:00 - [22] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: here is a short list of why we dont us mcru's slow spawn time people get road killed for spawning on them (FW only, maybe PC too) random noobs spawn on you and steal your ride when you get out for a moment to repair or drop an uplink vehicles need to be locked to the player who summoned them for at-least 30 seconds(solo) to 1 minute(squad) when the person gets out of them, Before a random-berry can take your vehicle, Exception is if its a hostile hacking your vehicle to take it true true possible, but more than this they never drop Don't name random-redberry in vain BTW, driver seat should be perma locked until the death of the owner of the vehicle. Cal scout vs Cal scout
Lupus Wolf Minmatar Republic 7	Posted - 2014.10.24 16:28:00 - [23] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: medomai grey wrote: I used to have the problem of people never ever getting out. Then I removed all the turrets I had for self defense and them blueberries couldn't wait to jump out. :D however i dont think we CAN remove turrets now can we? just checked.. i cannot remove the default weapons on the MLT dropships Why would you use militia when STD dropships are way better? Also what you can do is fly into the aerial redline, so the blueberries jump out, and land deep in the ground redline Gunnlogis with BLASTERS!?! BLASPHEMY!!! #MissilesFoLyfe \|: Rail/Missile GL< Blaster GL< B Matty< M Matty< Missile GL :\|
Bahirae Serugiusu Vendetta Reactionary Force 209	Posted - 2014.10.24 16:37:00 - [24] - Quote Heres why I use them. 1. Because spawning in a Viper is the only spawnpoint that isn't in a perpetual death trap 2. Its helpful for getting to the rear points in Skirmish that everyone ignores 3. And being able to ambush an enemy is pretty nice. Theres always money in the banana stand.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1822	Posted - 2014.10.24 16:42:00 - [25] - Quote Blueprint For Murder wrote: it is buggy and sometimes will not allow people to spawn in. This is why we went away from them in PCs.
Aiwha Bait Demonic Cowboys 13	Posted - 2014.10.24 16:48:00 - [26] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: here is a short list of why we dont us mcru's slow spawn time people get road killed for spawning on them (FW only, maybe PC too) random noobs spawn on you and steal your ride when you get out for a moment to repair or drop an uplink vehicles need to be locked to the player who summoned them for at-least 30 seconds(solo) to 1 minute(squad) when the person gets out of them, Before a random-berry can take your vehicle, Exception is if its a hostile hacking your vehicle to take it I'd like to add a fourth reason; People don't know how to fcking pilot a dropship. I personally think the idea of a M-CRU on a dropship/tank is a brilliant idea. I try to avoid them on dropships because blueberries call in their dropships for shts and giggles, and "fly" them around. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkr4hYGVKO8 (that's how I picture them as they "fly" around) By the time i spawn into the M-CRU, their ship has exploded and I'm down one less suit. Check out https://player.me/. :) If you sign up, use invite code aiwhabait
Vulpes Dolosus Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2340	Posted - 2014.10.24 17:06:00 - [27] - Quote 1. They take up too much space. And not just PG/CPU. Having to waste a slot for something other than ehp mods is difficult, especially if that mod takes up PG/CPU as well. Personally, I think the mCRU should be a native mod to all dropships (minus ADS and probably MLT), provided the caveats I list below are met (but also as a mod for other non-DS vehicles). 2. Skill bonus that reduces spawn time. Currently the skill is worthless. Instead of giving higher tiered mCRUs, I think it would be a better idea to reduce the spawn timer per level (-10%, lvl5 makes it 5s, as good as the best links; applies to both the mod and native-mod to DSs). 3. Toggle-ability. Let us, at any time, without cool down or duration, turn the mod on and off. This will help alleviate burdensome blueberries. That should do for now. Dust is there! I was real! Dear diary, Rattati senpai noticed me today~
Stefan Stahl Seituoda Taskforce Command 805	Posted - 2014.10.24 17:06:00 - [28] - Quote Aiwha Bait wrote: I'd like to add a fourth reason; People don't know how to fcking pilot a dropship. I personally think the idea of a M-CRU on a dropship/tank is a brilliant idea. I try to avoid them on dropships because blueberries call in their dropships for shts and giggles, and "fly" them around. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkr4hYGVKO8 (that's how I picture them as they "fly" around) By the time i spawn into the M-CRU, their ship has exploded and I'm down one less suit. I've been trying to work against this on my vehicle alt. But as soon as your dropship starts looking like a safe place people start getting comfy on the flying couch. Well, I don't worry too much about it. Better they go 0/0 in my DS than 0/10 out in the open. Right? Also - once a competent gunner spawns I don't care how many people watch from the back seats.
Aiwha Bait Demonic Cowboys 13	Posted - 2014.10.24 17:17:00 - [29] - Quote Stefan Stahl wrote: Aiwha Bait wrote: I'd like to add a fourth reason; People don't know how to fcking pilot a dropship. I personally think the idea of a M-CRU on a dropship/tank is a brilliant idea. I try to avoid them on dropships because blueberries call in their dropships for shts and giggles, and "fly" them around. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkr4hYGVKO8 (that's how I picture them as they "fly" around) By the time i spawn into the M-CRU, their ship has exploded and I'm down one less suit. I've been trying to work against this on my vehicle alt. But as soon as your dropship starts looking like a safe place people start getting comfy on the flying couch. Well, I don't worry too much about it. Better they go 0/0 in my DS than 0/10 out in the open. Right? Also - once a competent gunner spawns I don't care how many people watch from the back seats. Addressing the "0/0 in the DS an 0/10 out in the open"; Uhm...noooo. I'd rather them go 0/10 in the open, because that makes me feel as if they're at least trying to do something. I'd hate to be a free ride around the map and somebody go 0/0. I agree and disagree on your point about the gunner bit. Yes, once a decent gunner or two spawns, I'm happy. I dont like people just sitting there and farming WP from vehicle kill assists by sitting in the other 4? spots. Check out https://player.me/. :) If you sign up, use invite code aiwhabait
Victor Moody Stahl Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 49	Posted - 2014.10.24 17:32:00 - [30] - Quote Malleus Malificorum wrote: MCRU's could be much improved by activating them like a module - Turn them on people can spawn (durational limit). Turn them off people cant spawn anymore. To build on this, the MCRU should have a very long active duration- like 10 or 15 minutes, and a similarly short cooldown- like 5-10 seconds. This allows a pilot to sort of "toggle-and-forget" the mod; they turn it on, it keeps on running, they don't really have to pay too much attention to it. At the same time, turning it off means you probably want to eventually turn it back on again, and you probably don't want to have to wait very long to do so. medomai grey wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: medomai grey wrote: I used to have the problem of people never ever getting out. Then I removed all the turrets I had for self defense and them blueberries couldn't wait to jump out. :D however i dont think we CAN remove turrets now can we? just checked.. i cannot remove the default weapons on the MLT dropships You can remove turrets on std. dropships. Two things: @Za'ki- Stop using militia derpships if you want to be legitimately useful to your team. That is all. @medomai grey- Halfway correct. STD level vehicles do not generally come with a turret pre-fitted, allowing you to generally ignore turret slots. It's also worth noting that dropships do not lose seats for not fitting turret mods, unlike L/HAVs. Buff Logis \| Nerf Goldfish

S-PANZA Expert Intervention Caldari State 70	Posted - 2014.10.24 18:15:00 - [31] - Quote As it is now most of the time the driver/pilot is driving/flying around without regards of where you will spawn. Most of the time you click to spawn at a certain point and by the time you spawn your on the other side of the map in the middle of a hornets nest. If they made it so that you spawn at the point where the MCRU is at when you select it , so that your exactly where you want to spawn, regardless of where the MCRU is when you actually spawn . Then I believe more people would use them.
The-Errorist SVER True Blood 830	Posted - 2014.10.24 19:34:00 - [32] - Quote Not sure if been mentioned here in this thread, but there's still the bug where if you aren't bleed out and are looking at the map to select a spawn point, the mCRUs don't show up; only when you're fully bled out do the mCRUs show up. MAG + Dust cb vet, an alt of Velvet Overkill & Agent Overkill. http://vimeo.com/93181621
STYLIE77 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 203	Posted - 2014.10.24 20:33:00 - [33] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: here is a short list of why we dont us mcru's slow spawn time people get road killed for spawning on them (FW only, maybe PC too) random noobs spawn on you and steal your ride when you get out for a moment to repair or drop an uplink vehicles need to be locked to the player who summoned them for at-least 30 seconds(solo) to 1 minute(squad) when the person gets out of them, Before a random-berry can take your vehicle, Exception is if its a hostile hacking your vehicle to take it I have 2 LAV BPO's thankfully. So I do use the Mobile Clone Reanimation Unit. I look forward to my +25's after this upcoming patch. I do agree on the point of locking the ship for 1 minute to all but SQUAD MEMBERS. After that it should be considered abandoned.


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