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Spademan
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
4147
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Posted - 2014.10.22 22:06:00 -
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Simple, I think it's be beneficial for the sniper rifle range to be increased. The current is too short to be useful in competitive play, and to my knowledge the previous range never made it overpowered.
Might it be possible to increase it back? Or at least to a halfway point?
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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Alena Ventrallis
Vengeance Unbound
Dark Taboo
1985
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Posted - 2014.10.23 00:14:00 -
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Gotta say, I'm loving snipers now. I think the range could go up by maybe 100m at the very most, but I see no reason that it NEEDS to happen.
Mercs whine about the rail rifle but refuse to shield tank to counter it.
But that's none of my business.
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Lloyd Orfay
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
85
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Posted - 2014.10.23 00:18:00 -
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The only thing snipers are useful for is roof campers.
If people couldn't camp upon inaccessible places, they wouldn't belong in the game period.
The maps are way too open and disproportionately favour height/ or have any other untactical features for it to be fair for snipers to exist here.
Antisocial players don't deserve their solo gameplay.
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gustavo acosta
Second-Nature
355
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Posted - 2014.10.23 05:32:00 -
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Nope, I can finally counter-snipe people that think they are invincible in the redline...and it feels really cool. Don't change a thing...except fixing any hit-detection issues with it.(which i get on occasion)
Edit:or put the sniper range back and reduce the damage to ludicrously low levels so the risk vs. reward factor would balance out.
Gallente scout, heavy, logi, and assault
Eternal Can I haz ur isk?
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Spademan
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
4156
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Posted - 2014.10.23 19:06:00 -
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gustavo acosta wrote:Nope, I can finally counter-snipe people that think they are invincible in the redline
That's the thing, it was changed to reduce redline sniping, but it doesn't seem to have done that at all.
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1964
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Posted - 2014.10.23 19:22:00 -
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Spademan wrote:gustavo acosta wrote:Nope, I can finally counter-snipe people that think they are invincible in the redline That's the thing, it was changed to reduce redline sniping, but it doesn't seem to have done that at all.
Your right, the shortened range wasn't a large enough change to get snipers out of the redline. What your proposing though does nothing to solve the risk reward imbalance caused by players being able to kill, or even just damage enemies, with basically zero risk to themselves.
If I was feeling trolly I'd say decrease the snipers range even further since, as you have correctly pointed out, snipers are still primarily in the redline. Their range needs to be around the 200m mark to force them to find places to shoot from that also carry a risk equivalent to their ability to kill.
I am not feeling troll-like though so I will propose something entirely different. The issue with the risk reward balance isn't the sniper rifles themselves but actually the whole redline. The redline is intended to be a place where you can safely call vehicles and/or organize prior to moving out to attack or defend. It is not a place that people should be actively playing from. To combat this there really needs to be a timer placed on being in the redline.
A player should get 3 min. in the redline when they first spawn. After that they are given 10 second to after the redline or die (just like the enemy redline). Entering the redline again will start the 10 sec timer. Additionally any kills from the redline are worth zero wp.
If such a system was implemented than the snipers current range and damage would be fine.
Now with more evil.
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iKILLu osborne
Kirjuun Heiian
444
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Posted - 2014.10.24 10:29:00 -
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push redline back 100m on every map, give snipers full range back = problem solved
lp cal scout i demand it
kirjuun heiian now recruiting cal loyalist
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
3893
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Posted - 2014.10.24 11:05:00 -
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If the redline is removed snipers may have their range back.
Until then, no.
EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
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Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
643
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Posted - 2014.10.24 11:05:00 -
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Reduced damage depending on distance into redline/away from battle zone.
35m into redline? 10% reduction.
80m? 55% reduction.
100m? 75%.
And so on...
Swag-suit4lyfe!
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Jebus McKing
lol Proto
797
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Posted - 2014.10.24 11:20:00 -
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Spademan wrote:gustavo acosta wrote:Nope, I can finally counter-snipe people that think they are invincible in the redline That's the thing, it was changed to reduce redline sniping, but it doesn't seem to have done that at all.
Exactly. And this why it needs its range reduced even more. Make the range 300m max, like every other long range weapon. No more low-risk BS for the snipers.
DUST514 is love // @JebusMcKing
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Spademan
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
4159
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Posted - 2014.10.24 11:30:00 -
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Jebus McKing wrote:Spademan wrote:gustavo acosta wrote:Nope, I can finally counter-snipe people that think they are invincible in the redline That's the thing, it was changed to reduce redline sniping, but it doesn't seem to have done that at all. Exactly. And this why it needs its range reduced even more. Make the range 300m max, like every other long range weapon. No more low-risk BS for the snipers.
Then why use the sniper rifle at all?
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it shouldn't be viable.
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
3893
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Posted - 2014.10.24 11:35:00 -
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Why should snipers be allowed to position themselves to kill other players and be immune to retaliation from all but one weapon class?
Answer me this with logic and thought and I will consider supporting the idea.
Oh and for all you ignorants educated about snipers by hollywood?
Average real world sniper lifespan from the moment he fires is 21 seconds. Same as a machinegunner. Both usually die the same way.
Artillery and mortars.
EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
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