DUST Search - Amarr and Minmitar veichles

Stevez WingYip wrote:

Spkr4theDead wrote:

Stevez WingYip wrote:

Hey, I was just wondering if we are going to see the Amarr and Minmitar vehicles in dust at all. With the announcement of project legion (I know it's not final), it makes me wonder if they are even on the development plan of next year for DUST.

I want to start using vehicles but I don't want to start investing skill points into the races that I don't like to find that the others are actually planned still :)

Tank variants and actually ADV hulls were taken away for "reworking." We haven't heard a peep about them since then.

We're certainly not going to get two new racial tanks when they're working on Legion. Pilots aren't allowed options, that's why so much was removed with the release of 1.7.

Yeah, that's why I made this post. As long as they are still on the roadmap I have no problem waiting. I can't wait to switch over to legion if it gets the green light but I also would rather just use the Drop ships we have now instead of waiting for something that isn't going to arrive :)

I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim

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Stevez WingYip Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 8	Posted - 2014.10.22 14:07:00 - [1] - Quote Hey, I was just wondering if we are going to see the Amarr and Minmitar vehicles in dust at all. With the announcement of project legion (I know it's not final), it makes me wonder if they are even on the development plan of next year for DUST. I want to start using vehicles but I don't want to start investing skill points into the races that I don't like to find that the others are actually planned still :)
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 2570	Posted - 2014.10.22 14:26:00 - [2] - Quote If (And that's a rather nebulous if) they release full racial parity for vehicles, they'll likely do another "partial respec" just like they did when they finally released the full lineup of racial suits. Anywho, the way vehicles work now, you don't actually invest in any "one" racial vehicle. HAV skills and LAV skills and Derpships alike are identical. If you can fly/drive one, you can fly/drive the other, so you don't really have anything to "lose." I just suggest if you're planning on waiting for the Amarrian HAVs, focus on your armor skills, and the opposite for the Minnies. "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
Stevez WingYip Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 8	Posted - 2014.10.22 14:28:00 - [3] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: If (And that's a rather nebulous if) they release full racial parity for vehicles, they'll likely do another "partial respec" just like they did when they finally released the full lineup of racial suits. Anywho, the way vehicles work now, you don't actually invest in any "one" racial vehicle. HAV skills and LAV skills and Derpships alike are identical. If you can fly/drive one, you can fly/drive the other, so you don't really have anything to "lose." I just suggest if you're planning on waiting for the Amarrian HAVs, focus on your armor skills, and the opposite for the Minnies. Yeah, that's the plan. I don't want to risk them not giving a respec. I would rather they did not anyway.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 2220	Posted - 2014.10.22 14:29:00 - [4] - Quote Stevez WingYip wrote: Hey, I was just wondering if we are going to see the Amarr and Minmitar vehicles in dust at all. With the announcement of project legion (I know it's not final), it makes me wonder if they are even on the development plan of next year for DUST. I want to start using vehicles but I don't want to start investing skill points into the races that I don't like to find that the others are actually planned still :) Tank variants and actually ADV hulls were taken away for "reworking." We haven't heard a peep about them since then. We're certainly not going to get two new racial tanks when they're working on Legion. Pilots aren't allowed options, that's why so much was removed with the release of 1.7. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Stevez WingYip Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 9	Posted - 2014.10.22 14:33:00 - [5] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Stevez WingYip wrote: Hey, I was just wondering if we are going to see the Amarr and Minmitar vehicles in dust at all. With the announcement of project legion (I know it's not final), it makes me wonder if they are even on the development plan of next year for DUST. I want to start using vehicles but I don't want to start investing skill points into the races that I don't like to find that the others are actually planned still :) Tank variants and actually ADV hulls were taken away for "reworking." We haven't heard a peep about them since then. We're certainly not going to get two new racial tanks when they're working on Legion. Pilots aren't allowed options, that's why so much was removed with the release of 1.7. Yeah, that's why I made this post. As long as they are still on the roadmap I have no problem waiting. I can't wait to switch over to legion if it gets the green light but I also would rather just use the Drop ships we have now instead of waiting for something that isn't going to arrive :)
Vell0cet Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 2414	Posted - 2014.10.22 15:08:00 - [6] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: We're certainly not going to get two new racial tanks when they're working on Legion. I have to disagree with this. I think it makes a lot of business sense to release the missing racial vehicles turrets and heavy weapons in DUST. CCP will need to produce the assets for Legion anyways, so the amount of effort to downscale them for the PS3 is pretty reasonable given the massive upside of having things balanced right out of the gate for Legion. That will translate into better launch reviews which would equal many millions of dollars over time. They're not ready yet, but I'm expecting a 1.10 with these at some point. Best PvE idea ever!
LUGMOS YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE 681	Posted - 2014.10.22 15:11:00 - [7] - Quote Inb4 True Adamance Quafe A question doesn't always have an answer, but a problem does, So what is DUST? A problem or a question?
Atiim 13139	Posted - 2014.10.22 15:20:00 - [8] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Pilots aren't allowed options, that's why so much was removed with the release of 1.7. Actually, those "options" were removed because Pilots demanded an AV nerf and a vehicle buff, while most AVers refused to engage in balance discussions beyond the "get good" insults. Though it should be noted that the vast (over 95%) of the Pilots openly advocated and "looked forward" to the changes to vehicles which were brought in 1.7, including you & Takahiro. Let's not change history. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 2220	Posted - 2014.10.22 15:51:00 - [9] - Quote Stevez WingYip wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Stevez WingYip wrote: Hey, I was just wondering if we are going to see the Amarr and Minmitar vehicles in dust at all. With the announcement of project legion (I know it's not final), it makes me wonder if they are even on the development plan of next year for DUST. I want to start using vehicles but I don't want to start investing skill points into the races that I don't like to find that the others are actually planned still :) Tank variants and actually ADV hulls were taken away for "reworking." We haven't heard a peep about them since then. We're certainly not going to get two new racial tanks when they're working on Legion. Pilots aren't allowed options, that's why so much was removed with the release of 1.7. Yeah, that's why I made this post. As long as they are still on the roadmap I have no problem waiting. I can't wait to switch over to legion if it gets the green light but I also would rather just use the Drop ships we have now instead of waiting for something that isn't going to arrive :) But they're not on the road map. We haven't heard anything about them, which means they've been forgotten about. Not accidentally, on purpose. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 2220	Posted - 2014.10.22 15:54:00 - [10] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: We're certainly not going to get two new racial tanks when they're working on Legion. I have to disagree with this. I think it makes a lot of business sense to release the missing racial vehicles turrets and heavy weapons in DUST. CCP will need to produce the assets for Legion anyways, so the amount of effort to downscale them for the PS3 is pretty reasonable given the massive upside of having things balanced right out of the gate for Legion. That will translate into better launch reviews which would equal many millions of dollars over time. They're not ready yet, but I'm expecting a 1.10 with these at some point. What's made for PS3 won't transfer over to PC. PC and PS4 are much more alike, which was by design by Sony. They're literally building a new game from the ground up with Legion. We're not getting marauders, enforcers or the other racial hulls. They're working on Legion. That's where their development time is going. Do they even have a tentative date for 1.9? I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim

Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 2220	Posted - 2014.10.22 15:59:00 - [11] - Quote Atiim wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Pilots aren't allowed options, that's why so much was removed with the release of 1.7. Actually, those "options" were removed because Pilots demanded an AV nerf and a vehicle buff, while most AVers refused to engage in balance discussions beyond the "get good" insults. Though it should be noted that the vast (over 95%) of the Pilots openly advocated and "looked forward" to the changes to vehicles which were brought in 1.7, including you & Takahiro. Let's not change history. So CCP removed options because we wanted AV nerfed? That doesn't make any sense. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
G Felix Second-Nature 47	Posted - 2014.10.22 17:41:00 - [12] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Atiim wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Pilots aren't allowed options, that's why so much was removed with the release of 1.7. Actually, those "options" were removed because Pilots demanded an AV nerf and a vehicle buff, while most AVers refused to engage in balance discussions beyond the "get good" insults. Though it should be noted that the vast (over 95%) of the Pilots openly advocated and "looked forward" to the changes to vehicles which were brought in 1.7, including you & Takahiro. Let's not change history. So CCP removed options because we wanted AV nerfed? That doesn't make any sense. I think it was more a matter of getting a handle on vehicle/AV balance by reducing variables in the overall equation. Vehicle balance has been elusive throughout Dust's growth, and it's been a lot worse than it is now. Losing options as a pilot sucks, but game breaking imbalances suck too. I know I'm not the only one who remembers invincible Logi LAV's. I think the higher tier vehicle options will return, perhaps even with pilot suits to help them really achieve their potential. Dust can be frustrating. (Gò»°Gûí°)Gò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+)
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 13738	Posted - 2014.10.22 19:53:00 - [13] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: If (And that's a rather nebulous if) they release full racial parity for vehicles, they'll likely do another "partial respec" just like they did when they finally released the full lineup of racial suits. Anywho, the way vehicles work now, you don't actually invest in any "one" racial vehicle. HAV skills and LAV skills and Derpships alike are identical. If you can fly/drive one, you can fly/drive the other, so you don't really have anything to "lose." I just suggest if you're planning on waiting for the Amarrian HAVs, focus on your armor skills, and the opposite for the Minnies. That's a fair comment to make. You don't invest in any one vehicle, though you really should. However a Partial Respec IF and only IF something like this comes to pass would certainly benefit HAV'ers and other vehicle pilots interested in the Amarr/Minmatar content. "We were commanded to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocents caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon


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