DUST Search - Scouts and explosives.

Bahirae Serugiusu wrote:

Crimson ShieId wrote:

Bahirae Serugiusu wrote:

Scouts half the time aren't even good. They are just a**holes or relying on the small hitbox and the brilliant move to be able to do literally everything in the game to survive. Oh look at me I've got a shotgun and miss three shots on a stationary sniper! The only way scouts even get kills is by using weapons that are near one hit kill aka spamming RE and the oh so overused nova knives.

While I might agree that a lot of the current scouts are a bit ****...

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=178316

There are plenty of "good" scouts that can do fine without a shotgun, or even a cloak for that matter. And those "overused" Nova Knives you speak of are the only weapon in the game that have a specific suit catering to them, or in Dust Forum speak... Where did the Minmatar Scout touch you?

I'm kinda surprised you're not just shouting at the cloak and Ewar though. Most people complaining about scouts go straight for those.

Cloaks are a nuisance at best (the nice Predator outline doesn't help you hide while running straight at me). And the Ewar thing was kind of hinted at in them being able to do everything. They can tank as well as an ADV Gallente Assault and have like three bonuses for perking into them. (Cloak, scan radius and scan accuracy whatever you want to call it). At the very least Assault suits should get one more bonus for each suit to give us a fighting chance.

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qwertix qwertix 7	Posted - 2014.10.22 05:41:00 - [1] - Quote I have noticed that many scouts pass their entire battles running around for placing explosives and getting needed results impossible for any other class of fighter (in some games one scout was able to do more than 50 kills). I wonder if this is right: -invisible to the scanners of heavy infantry, -invisible to almost all players for the cloak -faster than any other class -large capacity of PG and CPU -free to place hundreds of explosives due to the large space for equipment. According to me you should limit this type of players. I propose that there is an acceptable limit to the number of explosives for every game to give back a bit 'of fun and balance to the other players. Sorry for the english but I think you understand. Once you know what it is you want to be true, instinct is a very useful device for enabling you to know that it is
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 2569	Posted - 2014.10.22 05:43:00 - [2] - Quote Your English is fine, don't worry :) "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 1727	Posted - 2014.10.22 05:45:00 - [3] - Quote Lol @ invisible by cloak Turn your brightness and contrast up Delt for CPM2 CPM1 MISSION : FAILED Moss-delt on skype
Joel II X Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3970	Posted - 2014.10.22 07:05:00 - [4] - Quote Your English is better than certain natives', your idea, however, is not. Remote Explosives can be used by every frame (except heavy and Sentinel). Last I recall, only 3 explosives may be active at one time at STD level. Even if you carry 2 slots of REs, you may only activate 3 (which I THINK may be bypassed by using different tiers). Anywho, seems to me you are mostly against scout players, with the REs being icing on the cake.
Blueprint For Murder Immortal Guides 155	Posted - 2014.10.22 07:18:00 - [5] - Quote I have them on my no cloak side arm scout, 1 assault suit, and commando suits being able to break a car and make tanks run is nice; if there are large groups not watching there backs I will RE them, but I understand it would be different if I used cloak. New, delicious, Soylent green the miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.
xavier zor G.L.O.R.Y Dark Taboo 92	Posted - 2014.10.22 07:52:00 - [6] - Quote Scouts do use remote explosives, but i use 2 remote explosives with kinetic catalyzers so i can run in to a big group...throw them around like crazy and get out of there quickly. Then repeat. scout ck.0 here!
Bahirae Serugiusu Vendetta Reactionary Force 201	Posted - 2014.10.22 10:43:00 - [7] - Quote Scouts half the time aren't even good. They are just a**holes or relying on the small hitbox and the brilliant move to be able to do literally everything in the game to survive. Oh look at me I've got a shotgun and miss three shots on a stationary sniper! The only way scouts even get kills is by using weapons that are near one hit kill aka spamming RE and the oh so overused nova knives.
Horizon Limit Nexus Balusa Horizon 78	Posted - 2014.10.22 11:10:00 - [8] - Quote RE should be like other equipments, if you want them back you should change your suit at a supply depot. Of course CCP should change carried number to be the same of active and stop this nonsense. Are minmatar communists?
hfderrtgvcd 953	Posted - 2014.10.22 19:19:00 - [9] - Quote least health You can't fight in here! This is the war room.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1811	Posted - 2014.10.22 20:04:00 - [10] - Quote IMO, they should add a graphic sequence when placing a remote (kind of like the sequence when using a needle). That way, scouts can't exploit remotes by using them as explosive Frisbees.

Crimson ShieId Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 1116	Posted - 2014.10.22 20:37:00 - [11] - Quote Bahirae Serugiusu wrote: Scouts half the time aren't even good. They are just aholes or relying on the small hitbox and the brilliant move to be able to do literally everything in the game to survive. Oh look at me I've got a shotgun and miss three shots on a stationary sniper! The only way scouts even get kills is by using weapons that are near one hit kill aka spamming RE and the oh so overused nova knives. While I might agree that a lot of the current scouts are a bit **... https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=178316 There are plenty of "good" scouts that can do fine without a shotgun, or even a cloak for that matter. And those "overused" Nova Knives you speak of are the only weapon in the game that have a specific suit catering to them, or in Dust Forum speak... Where did the Minmatar Scout touch you? I'm kinda surprised you're not just shouting at the cloak and Ewar though. Most people complaining about scouts go straight for those. Nova Knives are best sidearm.
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1394	Posted - 2014.10.22 20:57:00 - [12] - Quote There's no problem with REs (the said explosives) as such nor the scouts themselves, but frisbeeing them in and detonating while they slide/barely have stopped is bad BECAUSE they do the grenades function and otherwise would be nerfed to grenade level. But their intended function is truly different. The answer: increase RE detonation delay further. People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
Lloyd Orfay Commando Perkone Caldari State 85	Posted - 2014.10.22 21:03:00 - [13] - Quote Basically certain scouts and other non support type of solo players are like the wild and uncivilised animal version of gamers Antisocial players don't deserve their solo gameplay.
Bahirae Serugiusu Vendetta Reactionary Force 204	Posted - 2014.10.22 22:00:00 - [14] - Quote Crimson ShieId wrote: Bahirae Serugiusu wrote: Scouts half the time aren't even good. They are just aholes or relying on the small hitbox and the brilliant move to be able to do literally everything in the game to survive. Oh look at me I've got a shotgun and miss three shots on a stationary sniper! The only way scouts even get kills is by using weapons that are near one hit kill aka spamming RE and the oh so overused nova knives. While I might agree that a lot of the current scouts are a bit **... https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=178316 There are plenty of "good" scouts that can do fine without a shotgun, or even a cloak for that matter. And those "overused" Nova Knives you speak of are the only weapon in the game that have a specific suit catering to them, or in Dust Forum speak... Where did the Minmatar Scout touch you? I'm kinda surprised you're not just shouting at the cloak and Ewar though. Most people complaining about scouts go straight for those. Cloaks are a nuisance at best (the nice Predator outline doesn't help you hide while running straight at me). And the Ewar thing was kind of hinted at in them being able to do everything. They can tank as well as an ADV Gallente Assault and have like three bonuses for perking into them. (Cloak, scan radius and scan accuracy whatever you want to call it). At the very least Assault suits should get one more bonus for each suit to give us a fighting chance.
Mex-0 G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 102	Posted - 2014.10.22 22:04:00 - [15] - Quote I used to run them on my Logi pre - 1.8. I could get more kills than while using my scout with Re's. I used the bolt pistol before it was (OP) cool.
Mex-0 G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 102	Posted - 2014.10.22 22:05:00 - [16] - Quote Bahirae Serugiusu wrote: Crimson ShieId wrote: Bahirae Serugiusu wrote: Scouts half the time aren't even good. They are just aholes or relying on the small hitbox and the brilliant move to be able to do literally everything in the game to survive. Oh look at me I've got a shotgun and miss three shots on a stationary sniper! The only way scouts even get kills is by using weapons that are near one hit kill aka spamming RE and the oh so overused nova knives. While I might agree that a lot of the current scouts are a bit **... https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=178316 There are plenty of "good" scouts that can do fine without a shotgun, or even a cloak for that matter. And those "overused" Nova Knives you speak of are the only weapon in the game that have a specific suit catering to them, or in Dust Forum speak... Where did the Minmatar Scout touch you? I'm kinda surprised you're not just shouting at the cloak and Ewar though. Most people complaining about scouts go straight for those. Cloaks are a nuisance at best (the nice Predator outline doesn't help you hide while running straight at me). And the Ewar thing was kind of hinted at in them being able to do everything. They can tank as well as an ADV Gallente Assault and have like three bonuses for perking into them. (Cloak, scan radius and scan accuracy whatever you want to call it). At the very least Assault suits should get one more bonus for each suit to give us a fighting chance. Those are slayer scouts. I used the bolt pistol before it was (OP) cool.


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