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Derpty Derp wrote:

Passive scans > cloaks... If a scout gets behind you with a cloak up, it really doesn't matter that they had the cloak because you aren't looking at them anyway.

low tier shotguns are probably too strong, how many other weapons kill with the same amount of shots as their mid/high tiers... We call it the isk farming tool.

Commando with shotgun (in my opinion) is quite effective, sure you don't run at people, but you block certain paths forcing them to come to you (which is even more deadly, even though less frequent.) & nothing compares to breach shotgunning a scout using a commando suit, lol.

Kasote Denzara wrote:

Charli Chaplin jr wrote:

I do see cloakers and REs all the time and i kill cloakers but they can 1 shot you from the back too easily wich you cant so with any other weapons in the game. most of the other weapons got nerfed not the shotgun

Plasma Cannon Prof. V, Gallente Commando V. I don't have to hit you in the back to one-shot you. With a standard Plasma Cannon, only a heavily armored Sentinel will survive the direct impact.

I'm putting this out there because there are more than just shotguns that can one-shot.

True, but you only get 1 shot at a time & you can blow yourself up with it && you will miss 9 times out of 10... I've been killed by plasma cannons, but I've also chased a guy around who took about 8 shots before he gave up and ran away.

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Charli Chaplin jr New Age Empire. 1	Posted - 2014.10.21 11:51:00 - [1] - Quote proto scout with cloak and shotguns does a big effort to get their kills by pressing R2 to uncloak in your back and 1 shot you by pressing R1? i really think cloak shoold be removed or nerfed, most of the other guns and dropsuits got nerfed but the shotgun never did, it 1 to 2 shots everything, the cloak shoold at least disepear when you shoot the guy. i think they dont do much effort to kill and they can recover to easy with a cloak, especially the cal scout. ACCEPT YOUR FATE LIKE I ACCEPTED MINE.
Vapor Forseti Nyain Chan General Tso's Alliance 1612	Posted - 2014.10.21 12:03:00 - [2] - Quote Apparently your post contradicts your signature, lmao. Nope. Cloak got nerfed down a little while ago, and in my honest opinion, that nerf worked like a charm. Now if you pay attention, it really shouldn't be hard at all to spot a cloaker running around. Lastly, if they nerf standard REs again, then people might stop bitching about it and that won't be good at all. Is "Dat Forum Warrior"
Charli Chaplin jr New Age Empire. 2	Posted - 2014.10.21 12:08:00 - [3] - Quote I do see cloakers and REs all the time and i kill cloakers but they can 1 shot you from the back too easily wich you cant so with any other weapons in the game. most of the other weapons got nerfed not the shotgun ACCEPT YOUR FATE LIKE I ACCEPTED MINE.
Coleman Gray Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 1236	Posted - 2014.10.21 12:11:00 - [4] - Quote Do you consider Shotguns OP when a suit other than a scout uses it? Original Commando, before all you posers just saying
CharacterNameWasTaken G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 127	Posted - 2014.10.21 12:46:00 - [5] - Quote is the fate you accepted being in nae?
Evan Gotabor Prima Gallicus 95	Posted - 2014.10.21 13:11:00 - [6] - Quote Don't worry about scouts. Everyone cried over ADS for months and they have been royally nerfed, just tell yourself that in about a year, scout will be nerfed to the ground. And a new class/vehicle/weapon will become the OP of the year. Welcome to Dust514. Eve 21 day Trial Dust 514 win 5M ISK for 100.000WP
Mahal Daj Mahal Tactical Enterprises 83	Posted - 2014.10.21 13:13:00 - [7] - Quote Evan Gotabor wrote: Don't worry about scouts. Everyone cried over ADS for months and they have been royally nerfed, just tell yourself that in about a year, scout will be nerfed to the ground. And a new class/vehicle/weapon will become the OP of the year. Welcome to Dust514. truth. I used to be a trainer, now I'm a terror. Proto doesn't matter vs. knives...
Charli Chaplin jr New Age Empire. 4	Posted - 2014.10.22 14:46:00 - [8] - Quote I use the shotgun with my scout but sometimes i use my RR scout without a cloak ane scouts cloaking with shotgun allways 1shot me from the back and i just this its too easy to get kils with it agains scouts that dose not use a cloak. Idk about you guys... ACCEPT YOUR FATE LIKE I ACCEPTED MINE.
Charli Chaplin jr New Age Empire. 4	Posted - 2014.10.22 14:48:00 - [9] - Quote CharacterNameWasTaken wrote: is the fate you accepted being in nae? No tbh its a really good corp but some of the guys on the forums cant accept it. ACCEPT YOUR FATE LIKE I ACCEPTED MINE.
Dust User KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 873	Posted - 2014.10.22 14:52:00 - [10] - Quote Charli Chaplin jr wrote: CharacterNameWasTaken wrote: is the fate you accepted being in nae? No tbh its a really good corp but some of the guys on the forums cant accept it. lol NAE will forever be considered a joke, along with STB.

Charli Chaplin jr New Age Empire. 4	Posted - 2014.10.22 14:54:00 - [11] - Quote Dust User wrote: Charli Chaplin jr wrote: CharacterNameWasTaken wrote: is the fate you accepted being in nae? No tbh its a really good corp but some of the guys on the forums cant accept it. lol NAE will forever be considered a joke, along with STB. :D thank you, people talk streangly on my other post. ACCEPT YOUR FATE LIKE I ACCEPTED MINE.
Dust User KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 873	Posted - 2014.10.22 14:57:00 - [12] - Quote Charli Chaplin jr wrote: Dust User wrote: Charli Chaplin jr wrote: CharacterNameWasTaken wrote: is the fate you accepted being in nae? No tbh its a really good corp but some of the guys on the forums cant accept it. lol NAE will forever be considered a joke, along with STB. :D thank you, people talk streangly on my other post. wat
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 2352	Posted - 2014.10.22 14:59:00 - [13] - Quote Charli Chaplin jr wrote: I do see cloakers and REs all the time and i kill cloakers but they can 1 shot you from the back too easily wich you cant so with any other weapons in the game. most of the other weapons got nerfed not the shotgun Plasma Cannon Prof. V, Gallente Commando V. I don't have to hit you in the back to one-shot you. With a standard Plasma Cannon, only a heavily armored Sentinel will survive the direct impact. I'm putting this out there because there are more than just shotguns that can one-shot. Prof. V Plasma Cannon and Gallente Commando V. There is no regret. Only explosions.
Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game RUST415 569	Posted - 2014.10.22 15:04:00 - [14] - Quote Passive scans > cloaks... If a scout gets behind you with a cloak up, it really doesn't matter that they had the cloak because you aren't looking at them anyway. low tier shotguns are probably too strong, how many other weapons kill with the same amount of shots as their mid/high tiers... We call it the isk farming tool. Commando with shotgun (in my opinion) is quite effective, sure you don't run at people, but you block certain paths forcing them to come to you (which is even more deadly, even though less frequent.) & nothing compares to breach shotgunning a scout using a commando suit, lol. Kasote Denzara wrote: Charli Chaplin jr wrote: I do see cloakers and REs all the time and i kill cloakers but they can 1 shot you from the back too easily wich you cant so with any other weapons in the game. most of the other weapons got nerfed not the shotgun Plasma Cannon Prof. V, Gallente Commando V. I don't have to hit you in the back to one-shot you. With a standard Plasma Cannon, only a heavily armored Sentinel will survive the direct impact. I'm putting this out there because there are more than just shotguns that can one-shot. True, but you only get 1 shot at a time & you can blow yourself up with it && you will miss 9 times out of 10... I've been killed by plasma cannons, but I've also chased a guy around who took about 8 shots before he gave up and ran away.
Charli Chaplin jr New Age Empire. 4	Posted - 2014.10.22 15:08:00 - [15] - Quote Vapor Forseti wrote: Apparently your post contradicts your signature, lmao. Nope. Cloak got nerfed down a little while ago, and in my honest opinion, that nerf worked like a charm. Now if you pay attention, it really shouldn't be hard at all to spot a cloaker running around. Lastly, if they nerf standard REs again, then people might stop bitching about it and that won't be good at all. Im not talking about myself, i said that the shotgun dosent require much skill to kill another scout with it when he has no cloak. You just need to aim, uncloak and press R1. And most of the starter and the weak scouts (cal/min) gets 1shoted. Its kinda forcing Scouts that has skills without the cloak to use it. Those kinda ppl get killed too easily by cloakers. I kill hvyes and assault drop suit users easier than shotgun scouts that uses the cloak. I can kill them but how do you want me to see them coming in my back while i shoot someone else. Turn around? Funny. Watch my back? Funny. You cant shoot someone and watch behind you at the same time? Yeah im god thats right.... bullsh*t ACCEPT YOUR FATE LIKE I ACCEPTED MINE.
Charli Chaplin jr New Age Empire. 4	Posted - 2014.10.22 15:12:00 - [16] - Quote Derpty Derp wrote: Passive scans > cloaks... If a scout gets behind you with a cloak up, it really doesn't matter that they had the cloak because you aren't looking at them anyway. low tier shotguns are probably too strong, how many other weapons kill with the same amount of shots as their mid/high tiers... We call it the isk farming tool. Commando with shotgun (in my opinion) is quite effective, sure you don't run at people, but you block certain paths forcing them to come to you (which is even more deadly, even though less frequent.) & nothing compares to breach shotgunning a scout using a commando suit, lol. Kasote Denzara wrote: Charli Chaplin jr wrote: I do see cloakers and REs all the time and i kill cloakers but they can 1 shot you from the back too easily wich you cant so with any other weapons in the game. most of the other weapons got nerfed not the shotgun Plasma Cannon Prof. V, Gallente Commando V. I don't have to hit you in the back to one-shot you. With a standard Plasma Cannon, only a heavily armored Sentinel will survive the direct impact. I'm putting this out there because there are more than just shotguns that can one-shot. True, but you only get 1 shot at a time & you can blow yourself up with it && you will miss 9 times out of 10... I've been killed by plasma cannons, but I've also chased a guy around who took about 8 shots before he gave up and ran away. true, i saw a sentinel with KNs camping an objective. Lol ACCEPT YOUR FATE LIKE I ACCEPTED MINE.
Charli Chaplin jr New Age Empire. 5	Posted - 2014.10.22 15:31:00 - [17] - Quote Vapor Forseti wrote: Apparently your post contradicts your signature, lmao. Nope. Cloak got nerfed down a little while ago, and in my honest opinion, that nerf worked like a charm. Now if you pay attention, it really shouldn't be hard at all to spot a cloaker running around. Lastly, if they nerf standard REs again, then people might stop bitching about it and that won't be good at all. where did i say cloaks didnt grt nerfed, i talked about shotguns basterd. ACCEPT YOUR FATE LIKE I ACCEPTED MINE.
robin williams' ghost Wandering Spirits 0	Posted - 2014.10.22 15:39:00 - [18] - Quote Charli Chaplin jr wrote: I use the shotgun with my scout but sometimes i use my RR scout without a cloak ane scouts cloaking with shotgun allways 1shot me from the back and i just this its too easy to get kils with it agains scouts that dose not use a cloak. Idk about you guys... Here's a thought, if you weren't staring at an enemy cru waiting to kill as enemies spawn you wouldnt get shotgunned in the back. CEO _ Wandering Spirits (WASPZ)
Boot Booter Second-Nature 988	Posted - 2014.10.22 15:45:00 - [19] - Quote Coleman Gray wrote: Do you consider Shotguns OP when a suit other than a scout uses it? This is the root of the question and the answer is no. Therefore shotguns are not OP. It must be something else. What happened to the repair tool glow? Why won't CCP answer? Conspiracy?
TEBOW BAGGINS GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING 1291	Posted - 2014.10.22 15:50:00 - [20] - Quote robin williams' ghost wrote: Charli Chaplin jr wrote: I use the shotgun with my scout but sometimes i use my RR scout without a cloak ane scouts cloaking with shotgun allways 1shot me from the back and i just this its too easy to get kils with it agains scouts that dose not use a cloak. Idk about you guys... Here's a thought, if you weren't staring at an enemy cru waiting to kill as enemies spawn you wouldnt get shotgunned in the back. or he could reroll alts to solo the academy and not have to worry about cloakers or proto.. AKA Zirzo Valcyn AFKing since 2012

Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5100	Posted - 2014.10.22 16:31:00 - [21] - Quote Charli Chaplin jr wrote: proto scout with cloak and shotguns does a big effort to get their kills by pressing R2 to uncloak in your back and 1 shot you by pressing R1? i really think cloak shoold be removed or nerfed, most of the other guns and dropsuits got nerfed but the shotgun never did, it 1 to 2 shots everything, the cloak shoold at least disepear when you shoot the guy. i think they dont do much effort to kill and they can recover to easy with a cloak, especially the cal scout. Not sure why you are saying especially the cal scout. The cal scout is ONLY successful because there aren't enough gal scouts on the field to hunt him down. The reason people that ran cal scouts were worried when they made the changes was that they'd no longer be able to scan down the gal scouts. It just turns out that there aren't enough people running gal scouts fully dampened to combat the other scouts. I wish my avatar was Minmatar.
Stevez WingYip Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 9	Posted - 2014.10.22 16:33:00 - [22] - Quote Charli Chaplin jr wrote: proto scout with cloak and shotguns does a big effort to get their kills by pressing R2 to uncloak in your back and 1 shot you by pressing R1? i really think cloak shoold be removed or nerfed, most of the other guns and dropsuits got nerfed but the shotgun never did, it 1 to 2 shots everything, the cloak shoold at least disepear when you shoot the guy. i think they dont do much effort to kill and they can recover to easy with a cloak, especially the cal scout. ACCEPT YOUR FATE LIKE I ACCEPTED MINE.
Charli Chaplin jr New Age Empire. 6	Posted - 2014.10.23 17:06:00 - [23] - Quote TEBOW BAGGINS wrote: robin williams' ghost wrote: Charli Chaplin jr wrote: I use the shotgun with my scout but sometimes i use my RR scout without a cloak ane scouts cloaking with shotgun allways 1shot me from the back and i just this its too easy to get kils with it agains scouts that dose not use a cloak. Idk about you guys... Here's a thought, if you weren't staring at an enemy cru waiting to kill as enemies spawn you wouldnt get shotgunned in the back. or he could reroll alts to solo the academy and not have to worry about cloakers or proto.. The spawncampers are the guys that call themselves "good" and call the others "Scrubs. they're the ones showing who they are by insulting people. "judging someone dosen't define who they are, it defines who you are" Thanks for telling people you get shotgunned while spawn camping like a ***. i run around and kill people. learn it! ACCEPT YOUR FATE LIKE I ACCEPTED MINE.
Charli Chaplin jr New Age Empire. 6	Posted - 2014.10.23 17:18:00 - [24] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Charli Chaplin jr wrote: proto scout with cloak and shotguns does a big effort to get their kills by pressing R2 to uncloak in your back and 1 shot you by pressing R1? i really think cloak shoold be removed or nerfed, most of the other guns and dropsuits got nerfed but the shotgun never did, it 1 to 2 shots everything, the cloak shoold at least disepear when you shoot the guy. i think they dont do much effort to kill and they can recover to easy with a cloak, especially the cal scout. The cal scout is ONLY successful because there aren't enough gal scouts on the field I kill gal scouts all day bro, Theyre the easiest scouts to kill along with the Amarr scout. the cal scout is good because i kill everyone using it. thats why you try to say that i cant use it properly because you are jalous. i can average 25 to 45 kills in a dom around 90% of the time and same for the ability to win. CAL scouts are successful because you're jalous. you think they're useless because they got nerfed bad but i still get more kills than most of the gal scouts on the field without a cloak. i kill proto scouts while they cloak the only way they can kill me is if i dont see them and they're in my back. ACCEPT YOUR FATE LIKE I ACCEPTED MINE.


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