So I have been flying dropships for 2 days. And the CPM and CCP should be phucking ashamed of themselves. Me included. I apologize to pilots. I let you down. The ADS is useless. We can't even make a tank scared now. My missiles fire so slowly i'm just a noise in the air, nothing more. We tried to show the evidence to CCP, we tried to manage balance but the anti vehicles guys could not let their lack of experience and knowledge stop them from sticking their ignorant fingers into the mix.

Killing a Milita dropship in a proto ship is a 5 minute fight. Killing tanks is impossible unless they forget the redline exists. Round two; gloves off.

Buff the damage and hp of the ADS

Disagreeing here.

From my ADS sources:
ADS pilots really had to change tactics, e.g. use different method of swarm evasion than before and choose whether they want to harden up vs forges or swarms, not both.


From personal experience:
I don't know if it is a consolidation or not, but no dropship has ever been scary to tanks. Certainly hasn't changed now.

If you think A good job was done with the Tank, the ADS and the AV then speak up. I think It sucks. Show me why it does not.

After the release of Delta, Dust 514 has become more enjoyable and the overall experience feels better. The most noticeable change is that AV feels like a role, and not a sub-class. I could go on, but I will not because this a #MyFOTMGotNerfedThread and more importantly a #CryBabyThread.

You pride yourself on approaching problems objectively, yet you make this kind of thread

If you want real feedback then you know where to post and how to post

20 mil in ads havent flown for 2 months. Cant wait til we get that respec im getting out of it so fast. Devs idea of an ads is decoration makes the battle look cooler like somethings actually going on. Shoot at it a couple times and get back to infantry fighting.

What else is new? Imagine what it was like -before- you came back and decided to sit down and read every single issue people raise. Seriously, the whole controversy with the CPM is that they don't represent the players and if you're just now realizing that the majority of the community simply doesn't get enough support/doesn't get heard I feel really bad for you now that you're actually on the CPM.

Then again, yanno, maybe if we had that ISD thingy I kept bitchin' for that no-one seemed/seems to care about... Maybe it wouldn't be so bad. We'd have volunteers that could actively speak for themselves. It's really not that illusive of a concept; unfortunately the powers that be (and those powers that were elected) just don't seem to honest-to-god give a **** about it or seem to outwardly oppose it.

See, an ideal CPM candidate (to me) knows who to talk to to get advice on a situation - they don't assume themselves to be the experts and they don't say, "Yo, come talk to me"; they -find- the people if they haven't already formed a relationship with them. There isn't any reason that a representative should still have to be forming relationships after they've been elected to get the needed things done. What we have, with the exception of two or three of the CPM Reps, are a handful of people that are taken aback at the fact that the community's voices aren't being heard or outright antagonize them for their differing opinions.

What is absolutely maddening is that this still comes as a surprise to me, but whatever.

Hardly.

When I say have HAV work like tanks I'm talking about a fundamental re-designation of their roles making tanks give the perception that they are powerful vehicles worth having on the field.

Basically this to me would require the following.

- Re-designation of the roles of Turrets by making Large Turrets all adhere to the slow tracking high power weapons they should be.
- Re-thinking the speed and handling of HAV to reduce their mobility to convey the idea of weight and inertia
- Re-thinking how AV applies it damage to HAV. Currently vs most AV forms I feel invincible. I want AV to be more punchy and carry more weight.
- Re-introduction of old modules.
- To make the fitting process of HAV more akin to fitting Ships in EVE. Hull, Modules, Turrets all providing something worthwhile.

Basically I want to suggest making tanks. Heavily Shielded/Armoured, Slow, Powerful Ordinance,Expensive, Customisable.