DUST Search - [2 vs 3 grenades] Which was is better?

rithu wrote:

Apothecary Za'ki wrote:

Mahal Daj wrote:

I miss the 3 grenade method. It was a rough and tumble weapon and the difference in 2 and 3 grenades seems much bigger than simply 'one grenade.'

I'd like to see the inclusion of the 3rd grenade again, as a variant with another penalty, fitting restrictions (maybe even the ability to fit up to 4, with fitting and cost for each one), or maybe even a variant that has 6-10 grenades, but do much less damage over a smaller area.

What do you all think?

-daj

2 LOCUS grenades but lower nanite cluster use.(4.5) because these cause direct death [LETHAL]

3 AV nades and lower the cost to 3.3 or something, as i like to run with AV nades on assault suits to help drive off vehicles. not directly lethal unless the derp dosnt abandon their vehicle. [SEMI-LETHAL]

4 FLUX grenades and lower cluster use to be same as clusters used for locus (ie if locus use 9 clusters for 2 nades(4.5) flux would use 9 for 4 nades (2.25). 4 nades because they are [NON LETHAL]

but keep the splash/damage the same.. no need to over complicate things :P

flux shud be 3. They are not lethal but the after effects are.

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Mahal Daj Mahal Tactical Enterprises 78	Posted - 2014.10.20 16:12:00 - [1] - Quote I miss the 3 grenade method. It was a rough and tumble weapon and the difference in 2 and 3 grenades seems much bigger than simply 'one grenade.' I'd like to see the inclusion of the 3rd grenade again, as a variant with another penalty, fitting restrictions (maybe even the ability to fit up to 4, with fitting and cost for each one), or maybe even a variant that has 6-10 grenades, but do much less damage over a smaller area. What do you all think? -daj I used to be a trainer, now I'm a terror. Proto doesn't matter vs. knives...
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1290	Posted - 2014.10.20 17:15:00 - [2] - Quote Mahal Daj wrote: I miss the 3 grenade method. It was a rough and tumble weapon and the difference in 2 and 3 grenades seems much bigger than simply 'one grenade.' I'd like to see the inclusion of the 3rd grenade again, as a variant with another penalty, fitting restrictions (maybe even the ability to fit up to 4, with fitting and cost for each one), or maybe even a variant that has 6-10 grenades, but do much less damage over a smaller area. What do you all think? -daj 2 LOCUS grenades but lower nanite cluster use.(4.5) because these cause direct death [LETHAL] 3 AV nades and lower the cost to 3.3 or something, as i like to run with AV nades on assault suits to help drive off vehicles. not directly lethal unless the derp dosnt abandon their vehicle. [SEMI-LETHAL] 4 FLUX grenades and lower cluster use to be same as clusters used for locus (ie if locus use 9 clusters for 2 nades(4.5) flux would use 9 for 4 nades (2.25). 4 nades because they are [NON LETHAL] but keep the splash/damage the same.. no need to over complicate things :P [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
rithu Freek Coalition Freek Alliance 173	Posted - 2014.10.20 17:17:00 - [3] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: Mahal Daj wrote: I miss the 3 grenade method. It was a rough and tumble weapon and the difference in 2 and 3 grenades seems much bigger than simply 'one grenade.' I'd like to see the inclusion of the 3rd grenade again, as a variant with another penalty, fitting restrictions (maybe even the ability to fit up to 4, with fitting and cost for each one), or maybe even a variant that has 6-10 grenades, but do much less damage over a smaller area. What do you all think? -daj 2 LOCUS grenades but lower nanite cluster use.(4.5) because these cause direct death [LETHAL] 3 AV nades and lower the cost to 3.3 or something, as i like to run with AV nades on assault suits to help drive off vehicles. not directly lethal unless the derp dosnt abandon their vehicle. [SEMI-LETHAL] 4 FLUX grenades and lower cluster use to be same as clusters used for locus (ie if locus use 9 clusters for 2 nades(4.5) flux would use 9 for 4 nades (2.25). 4 nades because they are [NON LETHAL] but keep the splash/damage the same.. no need to over complicate things :P flux shud be 3. They are not lethal but the after effects are.
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1290	Posted - 2014.10.20 17:20:00 - [4] - Quote rithu wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: Mahal Daj wrote: I miss the 3 grenade method. It was a rough and tumble weapon and the difference in 2 and 3 grenades seems much bigger than simply 'one grenade.' I'd like to see the inclusion of the 3rd grenade again, as a variant with another penalty, fitting restrictions (maybe even the ability to fit up to 4, with fitting and cost for each one), or maybe even a variant that has 6-10 grenades, but do much less damage over a smaller area. What do you all think? -daj 2 LOCUS grenades but lower nanite cluster use.(4.5) because these cause direct death [LETHAL] 3 AV nades and lower the cost to 3.3 or something, as i like to run with AV nades on assault suits to help drive off vehicles. not directly lethal unless the derp dosnt abandon their vehicle. [SEMI-LETHAL] 4 FLUX grenades and lower cluster use to be same as clusters used for locus (ie if locus use 9 clusters for 2 nades(4.5) flux would use 9 for 4 nades (2.25). 4 nades because they are [NON LETHAL] but keep the splash/damage the same.. no need to over complicate things :P flux shud be 3. They are not lethal but the after effects are. im talking the grenade alone.. not when some one uses it to PREP some one for a ACR butt-loveing.. Flux are more used as EMP nades to destroy equipment and remove shielding... how ever in hindsight this could be an indirect nerf to shield tankers.. but could be a big middle finger to Cal-scout supremacy [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
John ShepardIII Second-Nature 1015	Posted - 2014.10.20 18:20:00 - [5] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: Mahal Daj wrote: I miss the 3 grenade method. It was a rough and tumble weapon and the difference in 2 and 3 grenades seems much bigger than simply 'one grenade.' I'd like to see the inclusion of the 3rd grenade again, as a variant with another penalty, fitting restrictions (maybe even the ability to fit up to 4, with fitting and cost for each one), or maybe even a variant that has 6-10 grenades, but do much less damage over a smaller area. What do you all think? -daj 2 LOCUS grenades but lower nanite cluster use.(4.5) because these cause direct death [LETHAL] Hell no **** that the nade spam would be back The True Shepard Lvl 1 Forum Warrior CEO of Second-Nature
CamClarke KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 174	Posted - 2014.10.20 18:28:00 - [6] - Quote Only thing that could bring grenade spam back would be reintroducing the double damage splash bug, which is why ye olde Flaylock was OP too.
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1294	Posted - 2014.10.20 18:31:00 - [7] - Quote John ShepardIII wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: Mahal Daj wrote: I miss the 3 grenade method. It was a rough and tumble weapon and the difference in 2 and 3 grenades seems much bigger than simply 'one grenade.' I'd like to see the inclusion of the 3rd grenade again, as a variant with another penalty, fitting restrictions (maybe even the ability to fit up to 4, with fitting and cost for each one), or maybe even a variant that has 6-10 grenades, but do much less damage over a smaller area. What do you all think? -daj 2 LOCUS grenades but lower nanite cluster use.(4.5) because these cause direct death [LETHAL] Hell no **** that the nade spam would be back err its still only 2 damage nades.. the numbers in brackets was cluster close EXAMPLE not actual cluster cost.. as i dont know the actual nade cluster cost. [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Mahal Daj Mahal Tactical Enterprises 80	Posted - 2014.10.20 18:31:00 - [8] - Quote I appreciate the concern over grenade spam, but the event was usually a turning point in CQC battles that would cause both sides to reingage from a distance. There are some things that happen in Dust that other communities can't accommodate. I think that the 3 grenades (or something like Apothecary's suggestion above) is a mark of honor for us mercs. EDIT: ****-it! 4 grenades for EVERYBODY! jk I used to be a trainer, now I'm a terror. Proto doesn't matter vs. knives...
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1766	Posted - 2014.10.20 18:40:00 - [9] - Quote 2 seems about right to me -- particularly for locus nades. You don't see much spamming any more, but you can still get kills with them, which is a good thing.
Mahal Daj Mahal Tactical Enterprises 81	Posted - 2014.10.20 18:43:00 - [10] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: 2 seems about right to me -- particularly for locus nades. You don't see much spamming any more, but you can still get kills with them, which is a good thing. I can agree that 2 directly lethal grenades makes sense. I used to be a trainer, now I'm a terror. Proto doesn't matter vs. knives...

KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1393	Posted - 2014.10.20 18:46:00 - [11] - Quote Originally I felt disappointed at nade amount nerf. But eventually I'm happy with two. And still it's a bit too casual to go on spamming them with hives.... =P But fixing that takes different solution than nade max count. People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1393	Posted - 2014.10.20 18:47:00 - [12] - Quote Oh the contact nades though: They do need the second one. Range and damage are gimped enough, let people have at least two tries with them.... People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
Joel II X Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3927	Posted - 2014.10.20 19:41:00 - [13] - Quote I miss the old 3 and 2 for militia. Also, the old stats on the locus. Unless you have a Core, they're not even worth it much anymore.


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