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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
1016
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Posted - 2014.10.16 15:52:00 -
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Being able to sell unused items back to NPCs means that players can now run FW 24/7 and actually have the possibility of going ISK positive if running the right factions for their fittings.
Just thought I would throw that out there as I am pretty excited by the thought of no longer bleeding ISK in exchange for LP that i have way too much of and I will no longer have to donate ISK to people to keep them enjoying FW fun with us. |
Cpt McReady
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
120
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Posted - 2014.10.16 15:53:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:Being able to sell unused items back to NPCs means that players can now run FW 24/7 and actually have the possibility of going ISK positive if running the right factions for their fittings.
Just thought I would throw that out there as I am pretty excited by the thought of no longer bleeding ISK in exchange for LP that i have way too much of and I will no longer have to donate ISK to people to keep them enjoying FW fun with us. it will be just like with regular proto gear and public contracts, if you do not die you earn money. if you die you go negative. |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
4963
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Posted - 2014.10.16 15:54:00 -
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Hopefully you'll be able to sell LP items for ISK. If so I think people will find use in buying FW boosters as a way to boost their income.
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
1016
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Posted - 2014.10.16 16:15:00 -
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Currently I can buy roughly 12 Imperial Sentinel AK.0 per match with an isk cost on top of 102,504 ISK. The Sentinel AK.0 has a market price of 57698 meaning at a 100% sale price those 12 suits are worth 692,376 ISK for a profit of 589,872.
Toss in a few thousand for salvage stuff getting dumped and you have a pretty hefty profit. Based on these numbers I would expect somewhere in the area of 50-75% to be the NPC value thanks to the fact that it is in this range that would put everything in FW right on par with pub match payouts. |
Mike Ox Bigger
Extremely Wicked
290
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Posted - 2014.10.16 17:14:00 -
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Nah they need to make LP items that you sell just return the LP and the ISK. Otherwise there will be abuse. Plus, with selling salvaged LP items that you don't want will allow you to buy LP items of that faction without having to play for that faction. Want Amarr uplinks but don't want to play Amarr? That's fine just sell off all your Amarr FW salvaged items. Sounds good to me :) |
deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
1016
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Posted - 2014.10.16 17:16:00 -
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Mike Ox Bigger wrote:Nah they need to make LP items that you sell just return the LP and the ISK. Otherwise there will be abuse. Plus, with selling salvaged LP items that you don't want will allow you to buy LP items of that faction without having to play for that faction. Want Amarr uplinks but don't want to play Amarr? That's fine just sell off all your Amarr FW salvaged items. Sounds good to me :)
I like this idea a lot for the simple fact that if sold for ISK the FW is going to be an AFKers wet dream. I would be fine with only profiting from the salvage to stop that from happening.
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
1129
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Posted - 2014.10.16 18:38:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:Mike Ox Bigger wrote:Nah they need to make LP items that you sell just return the LP and the ISK. Otherwise there will be abuse. Plus, with selling salvaged LP items that you don't want will allow you to buy LP items of that faction without having to play for that faction. Want Amarr uplinks but don't want to play Amarr? That's fine just sell off all your Amarr FW salvaged items. Sounds good to me :) I like this idea a lot for the simple fact that if sold for ISK the FW is going to be an AFKers wet dream. I would be fine with only profiting from the salvage to stop that from happening. you only get salvage from killing things in FW.. so no afkers there :P
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Jammer Jalapeno
Dox You. Proficiency V.
160
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Posted - 2014.10.20 17:32:00 -
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Not true...you can sit on your tush the entire match and still collect salvage..It appears to be all jumbled up when they dish out loot. I've eaten quite a few tanks & ADS's in FW and it is very rare that i'll even get a piece of it. Seems to be the lower you are on the leaderboard, the better your salvage is.
On the bright side I can't wait to get rid of all that militia crap from the minmitards. Bout time!!!!
MmMmMm TanKs....delicious TanKs
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
9818
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Posted - 2014.10.20 17:34:00 -
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Jammer Jalapeno wrote:Not true...you can sit on your tush the entire match and still collect salvage..It appears to be all jumbled up when they dish out loot. I've eaten quite a few tanks & ADS's in FW and it is very rare that i'll even get a piece of it. Seems to be the lower you are on the leaderboard, the better your salvage is.
On the bright side I can't wait to get rid of all that militia crap from the minmitards. Bout time!!!!
Rumor goes that the meta level of your gear determines your chances of getting salvage. But don't quote me as that was just a rumor.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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JIMvc2
UNREAL WARRIORS
250
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Posted - 2014.10.20 18:08:00 -
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That would be nice but unfortunately I have to deal with the ******* Q syncers.
MAG Raven vet 7 times. Favorite weapon F90 and Highest Kills 78 and 23 deaths.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
18272
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Posted - 2014.10.20 18:45:00 -
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With optimal LP conversion rates a 100% market sellback value would lead to 500k minimum profit from a FW win if all the LP were immediately converted to ISK.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
GM Scotsman is my hero.
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
1030
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Posted - 2014.10.20 18:55:00 -
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JIMvc2 wrote:That would be nice but unfortunately I have to deal with the ******* Q syncers.
If you cant beat em join em. Come on over we have made many level 10 amarrians out of plain mercs. |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
5036
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Posted - 2014.10.20 18:57:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:With optimal LP conversion rates a 100% market sellback value would lead to 500k minimum profit from a FW win if all the LP were immediately converted to ISK.
I think it'll need to be a touch higher to make the team deploy an attractive option.
The overall gameplay in Dust would improve and more players would get heavily into the meta that hooks players. They can figure out a proper economy in Legion, for now let team based play be a path to riches.
I wish my avatar was Minmatar.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
5036
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Posted - 2014.10.20 19:00:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:JIMvc2 wrote:That would be nice but unfortunately I have to deal with the ******* Q syncers. If you cant beat em join em. Come on over we have made many level 10 amarrians out of plain mercs.
This game is amazing when you have a group of people building strategies and fine tuning them until you start to find success. I really, really recommend finding groups that will put some effort into building a team and working to win matches.
I wish my avatar was Minmatar.
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
4214
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Posted - 2014.10.20 19:48:00 -
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This is very true, but with the new payouts FW is reasonably sustainable. I'll never need to buy a dropsuit from the regular market ever again, that's for sure. Modules/weapons are different but generally a lot let expensive.
I'll tell you one thing, though, if the only benefit I gained from this was to be able to finally get rid of all these breach shotguns and useless militia crap that has been cluttering up my inventory for ages, regardless of how much profit I make, I will be a happy merc.
(The godfather of tactical logistics)
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
4296
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Posted - 2014.10.20 19:56:00 -
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Ideally it's preferable if the LP items actually be compelling themselves. :) But yeah, it's one more way that FacWar should be a little bit more appealing.
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Jammer Jalapeno
Dox You. Proficiency V.
160
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Posted - 2014.10.21 17:51:00 -
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Yes I hope this draws in more FW players....some days we have to wait forever for a battle
MmMmMm TanKs....delicious TanKs
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