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mollerz wrote:CCP took so long to balance scouts, all the while keeping them in the gutter, they made OP skilled players that could adapt to any circumstance vs any odds and strategy. Sure, scout kills are on the rise due to balance. But the scouts that whip the ******* **** out of you to the point your come onto the forums and scream for change? That's a scout that played against you with stacked odds for about a year.
You are just reaping what CCP sowed. Your vacation is over. Since balance has been introduced you've had a few newbros sprout up to bolster our numbers, but the ones that have been making you screech into the night.. come here and cry for mercy?
We were forged from challenge, from adverse odds, and an underground community of intel sharing killers.
I don't collect your tears. No scout does. Just your thin roll over yellow blood.
It is satisfying to know our prey never could endure our strife... you weak sad sacks. I called it. other scouts called it. We drank to your naivet+¬ in our shop. All your threads are our trophies.
Keep begging for mercy. If if CCP grants it to you, we will still be at home. You will still die.
(:..[=\==> i disagree.. scouts even in old days shield tanking scouts were op till they added shield recharge delay.. then a short period of "hard times" then you get cloak and op Ewar with out moduals.. and seeing how OP they are more players are goign scout simply because of the OP nature of the suit..
i for one will relish in bathing in the tears of all you flavor of the YEAR scouts. your time will some.. SOON...
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THE MILLIONCLONE CHALLENGE wrote:mollerz wrote:Probably the funnest time one can have killing a heavy is when you slash him four times as he wildly sprays his HMG like a donkey.
By that third slash the panic is just hilarious.
3 slashes implies that you are panicking. a true minja will only take 1 charged slash to kill most heavy/sentinel/anyone
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mollerz wrote:
Plz keep bringing your1200+EHP to my 200EHP death dance.
lol just wait till the great strafing nerf of 1.9 ;p
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Stryker Syx Vector wrote:Mollerz you obviously have no idea what you're talking about. Heavies were useless for a long time. They just now became viable. actually they were more viable with pre-nerf burst HMG but then scouts whined their asses off and ccp listened to their "favourite child" as it were and got burst HMG nerfed into the ground again
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Pushing Charlie wrote:Reign Omega wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Appia Vibbia wrote:But the US system of measurement makes so much sense! Your thumb is about 1 inch long. A foot is about the same length as your forearm a Yard is about the length of your stride
So easy to measure things to get them close enough Metric is superior in almost every way. I still don't know why we haven't converted. The only legitimate reason I've ever heard is the cost. Apart from that, it just seems like a lot of people don't want to have to learn metric (Which is dumb, since its easier to use than English when you learn it. None of that 5280 ft to a mile or 12 inches to a foot, 3 feet to a yard.) You absolutely do know why America hasn't switched. Yeah, cus they're fools. rekt its because they are stuck in the past and cannot adapt, they are still loveing the Crown.. hell even the UK switched from Imperial to metric.. that says alot when MURICA dosnt :P
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NIETZCHES OVERMAN wrote:Llast 326 wrote:Imp Smash wrote:I like Imperial over Metric. It gives more FLAVOR to your measurements! Oddly I like my Metric over ImperialGǪ I feel it has more FLAVOUR Euro trash. The conquer decides the measurement. We won. We say feet and inches. you may have won independence via terrorist tactics but that dosnt change the fact your still useing a measurement system that is archaic and was what us Euro Trash used before we got smart and switched to metric because its more accurate.
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mollerz wrote:PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:I just made it onto that list. For that im extremely grateful. I would say im good as in i average 16 kills per match. Is that good? Im better at stabbing then anything.... and shotgun but that situation. Mollerz we gotta squad were do you hang out at in-game you slippery ****? Terms of friendlyness. o7 o7 o7 o7 o7 o7
AS YOU CAN TELL I STILL GET SOOO STOKED WHEN I SEE THE LIST!!! You'll be pleased to know we've immortalized it in other locations on the internet. It will for sure live on :D Unlike our unfortunate heavy victims. but winners write history, right? Not us though. We keep to ourselves. I mean, ****. Never saw the level of public scout wailing you see with heavies. We scouts laugh and stuff, but they seem to really have some anguish about getting cloned. ****- we clone each other just to avoid red jar hangovers! you scout laugh at how op you are.. like how the rich laugh at the poor for not being rich :P
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Posted - 2014.10.18 16:14:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Cat Merc wrote:The amount of arrogance and circle jerking is amusing. Its like this thread was designed for that or something! Instead of an anti-scout circle jerk where scrubs who have no idea how the game is balanced talk about their scrubby wishes to balance scouts (i.e. remove all equipment, make them sidearms only, make them worse at eWAR than med frames, etc.). If you people who want scouts to be useless again can suck each other off in your own threads, we should be able to do it here . Overall, scouts are pretty close to 100% balanced. They need to remove shared passives, and make cloak dampening available at all levels, and I think they'd be in a very good place. The only problem is players who don't pay attention to the game and instead look at a little circle in the upper right corner of the screen. Those are the players who we prey on, because they are the only ones we can kill. if they are 100% balanced why does the number fo scouts keep growing day by day in matches? its cause the newbies and slow learners are switching to the Flavour of the month/year and will probably bitcha nd whine for respecs once a scout nerf hits
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Posted - 2014.10.18 16:19:00 -
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the fanfaire of every non scout that plays dust when scouts get nerfed into their "Mortal" state again.. *fapfapfap*
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Posted - 2014.10.18 16:23:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:medomai grey wrote:*equips scout suit, then proceeds to murder OP's "skilled" scouts left and right*
*proceeds to chuckle at OP's delusions* Best scouts are force multipliers, not pub stompers. Slayers and Heavies establish the front lines. Logi's reinforce the lines. Scouts are the ones to sneak around and muck up the lines. By flanking and ganking, you force them to divert attention to their flanks, allowing a frontal push in to the objective. This is achieved by assassinating key logistics or heavies to weaken the front, or by removing uplinks allowing for a push out. Now, how do scouts manage to get all those kills in PC then? PC is freaking hectic that's why. There is SO much room to take advantage of that chaos and turn it into kills. That being said, this is only achieved when: 1.) Your team is strong enough to CREATE that chaos. 2.) You are good enough in 1v1 to allow you to survive DESPITE the order. That being said, this only applies to PC. Pubs is just a kill fest. Why do I bring this up? medomai grey wrote:*equips scout suit, then proceeds to murder OP's "skilled" scouts left and right*
*proceeds to chuckle at OP's delusions* Because I'm not that great a slayer. Yeah, I've met a lot of people who can 1v1 me better in scout suits. But that's not how I got on FA. I got in because while I wasn't the best slayer, I MADE THINGS HAPPEN. Stealing objectives with 3 second hacks because you overextend. Getting rid of your equip spam because you are too distracted by trying to slay in PC, then watching as I call out your position and let the heavies do the work. Working WITH squad mates to take objectives through good uplink placement and zealous defense, at the expense of my KD/R. THAT is what makes a scout. Not his K/D. TL;DR KD/R doesn't make a scout. You might win 1v1's with your "OP Scout Suit", but at the end of the day, I don't give a damn. I'd gladly take a 1.0 KD/R in PC and walk away with a win, even if I lose every fight to you. THAT is skill. Being able to WIN BATTLES. scouts are not force multipliers.. that realm is soley Logibros who squad up.
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Posted - 2014.10.18 16:24:00 -
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Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:Vesperz wrote:Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:And yes, Scouts are EZ mode, don't kid yourself. GAL Scout is EZ Mode. Leave my minmatar out of this! Min scout is still EEEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZZZZZZZZZZ mode. min scout.. 2 trick pony.. speed.. and stab.. they are legit
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Posted - 2014.10.18 16:26:00 -
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Fiddlestaxp wrote:mollerz wrote:THE MILLIONCLONE CHALLENGE wrote:Actually most of the good scouts left, the crap ones whined, scouts became easy mode, now you nubs think your great.
And we all know it because we run scout and own most of you scabs.
Enjoy. YEa? Cool theory, professor. I'm not "that scout". I'm the scout with thousands of knife kills. It would seem "that Scout" is an invention of the feeble to console each other when they are down to the lesser clones they have to bunk in since scout actuals depleted their real clones. Sucks too.. I heard they are so cheaply made they don't have genitals or sphincters. Just diaper nasty. pfffftt.. lolz. Real scouts punch people to death. i saw that.. scary stuff when a scout can 3 punch heavys to death
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Posted - 2014.10.18 16:33:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:We the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much, with so little, for so long, we are now qualified to do anything with nothing. the hymn of the Assault.
-fox gaiden 2014
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Mike Ox Bigger wrote:A couple of scouts on a map make running an assault suit unbearable. They're not so bad in ambush but my god Skirmish is owned by whatever team has the better scouts. It became an even bigger problem after the nerf to the burst HMG. I'd say 90% of my deaths are cloaked scouts that force me to pull out a cloaked scout just so I can compete with them. i think you mean "has the most scouts"
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mollerz wrote:An important point needs to be made here. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. This is truth. Just as much as CCP made dedicated scouts into super soldiers who hungered for challenge and, in fact, flourished in the dark ages of scouting, they also stunted heavies. In contrast, for a long time, heavies have just had every crutch and as close to a win button as one could possible maintain in this game world. Now that everything is becoming normalized and balanced they, like a darwinian drama, can't compete. I look forward to the day when "real heavy" competition comes to bear. The ones who didn't blame the world for their old ways becoming extinct. The ones who adapt and bring it. These other useless heavies will just beach themselves on the shores of oblivion. Lol at heavies who think they will just pick up a scout suit and pwn. Reality checks are in store for them TL;DR: CCP made scout killers. Heavies will need to adapt to losing their overall crutches and near win button and begin to fight for real. Or get left behind like the Neanderthals were by the Home Sapiens. so you admit scouts are vastly superior now and by proxy need a nerf to be normalized :P because atm with out being cal sent or galsent with lows filled of reppers they NEED my(logi) assistance to keep them on the field its a symbiotic relationship.. unlike the forever alone that is OP scouts
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Orion Sanjeet wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Thats due to lag.
There is no way to do it.
The scout is uncloaked, but doesn't render as such because there is lag.
Wait until the next patch and see if this is still a problem.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Thats due to lag.
The scout is uncloaked, but doesn't render as such because there is lag.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: scout is uncloaked, but doesn't render as such
Then that means THAT THE SCOUT IS STILL CLOAKED! Hey man, I swear, the scout wasn't cloaked, granted, for all intents and purposes he was cloaked from the perspective of everyone else, meaning he was still invisible and had a dampening bonus, but I'm TELLING you man, he wasn't cloaked, that he was invisible and dampened was because of lag. So then if lag is fixed, a longer fire delay is unnecessary, as he will appear uncloaked when he uncloaks. Also, this shouldn't be much of a problem because of the shiny shine that the cloak gives off which is really noticeable at under 40 meters only when theya re moving, they are 100% invis if they are smart enough to stand still and wait for us to pass by and then OHK us
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Appia Vibbia wrote:But the US system of measurement makes so much sense! Your thumb is about 1 inch long. A foot is about the same length as your forearm a Yard is about the length of your stride
So easy to measure things to get them close enough Metric is superior in almost every way. I still don't know why we haven't converted. The only legitimate reason I've ever heard is the cost. Apart from that, it just seems like a lot of people don't want to have to learn metric (Which is dumb, since its easier to use than English when you learn it. None of that 5280 ft to a mile or 12 inches to a foot, 3 feet to a yard.) the only time feet and inches is appropriate is when you talk about your "member" or your height..
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Reign Omega wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Appia Vibbia wrote:But the US system of measurement makes so much sense! Your thumb is about 1 inch long. A foot is about the same length as your forearm a Yard is about the length of your stride
So easy to measure things to get them close enough Metric is superior in almost every way. I still don't know why we haven't converted. The only legitimate reason I've ever heard is the cost. Apart from that, it just seems like a lot of people don't want to have to learn metric (Which is dumb, since its easier to use than English when you learn it. None of that 5280 ft to a mile or 12 inches to a foot, 3 feet to a yard.) You absolutely do know why America hasn't switched. because they are the special little snowflake who wants to be different then its parent countries
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TerranKnight87 wrote:I'm from the UK mate. We did change but both are used everywhere and both are used for various things, I liken it to the American English language change. Noah Webster tried to simplify (dumb down in my eyes) the English language in America and 5 generations were taught his tosh. In the end, it was cast off as crap as his new loledition saw words like 'tongue' spelt as 'tung'. Regardless, you guys still use a lot of it as although a lot of it is simply no better than engwish, you guys still use the changes that are easier and make sense. No offense meant, just pointing that out. We use both relative to different measurements. I also liken it to how us English swear a fair bit and don't talk properly (common speak), but when in a professional environment or engaging in serious matters, you'd think we were born with a silver spoon lodged betwix thine buttocks good sir. oh i know we use both but Metric is the accepted norm.. but so space raptor jesus help me.. when i want a size 13 spanner but can only find a 4/16th one or something
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mollerz wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Reign Omega wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Appia Vibbia wrote:But the US system of measurement makes so much sense! Your thumb is about 1 inch long. A foot is about the same length as your forearm a Yard is about the length of your stride
So easy to measure things to get them close enough Metric is superior in almost every way. I still don't know why we haven't converted. The only legitimate reason I've ever heard is the cost. Apart from that, it just seems like a lot of people don't want to have to learn metric (Which is dumb, since its easier to use than English when you learn it. None of that 5280 ft to a mile or 12 inches to a foot, 3 feet to a yard.) You absolutely do know why America hasn't switched. because they are the special little snowflake who wants to be different then its parent countries And thank goodness for that. Despite the turmoil, diversity is a great thing. they through slavery and racism was a good thing too even though the rest of the "civilized" world had already socially evolved past that..
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:NIETZCHES OVERMAN wrote:Llast 326 wrote:Imp Smash wrote:I like Imperial over Metric. It gives more FLAVOR to your measurements! Oddly I like my Metric over ImperialGǪ I feel it has more FLAVOUR Euro trash. The conquer decides the measurement. We won. We say feet and inches. you may have won independence via terrorist tactics but that dosnt change the fact your still useing a measurement system that is archaic and was what us Euro Trash used before we got smart and switched to metric because its more accurate. You need to look up the definition of terrorist tactics. You're making the european education system look bad. the word is "guerilla tactics." Believe it or not there is a VERY distinct difference. keep telling yourself that :)
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mollerz wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:TerranKnight87 wrote:We use both relative to different measurements. I also liken it to how us English swear a fair bit and don't talk properly (common speak), but when in a professional environment or engaging in serious matters, you'd think we were born with a silver spoon lodged betwix thine buttocks good sir. Hilariously the USMC ingrained metrics into me so hard I have a difficult time thinking in "feet" or "yards" much anymore. Feet is how tall you are, yards are something you use in the NFL and college football. The funny thing is if you, as an american, grew up using the imperial system you don't want to change, but once you are exposed to the metric system you see why it's better instantly. The only real problem I have is Fahrenheit to centigrade. I just can't wrap my head around it for some reason.. 30 degrees!? I better get my parka.. oops. at like -46 they are the same iirc :P
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mollerz wrote:see.. that is a heavy for you. HEavy version- See!? A scout 3 punched me to death! That is crazy! I have 1600EHP. WTF. SCOUT OP OP SCOUT OP!!!! Whole story- Scout with 198EHP ran right up to a 1600EHP HMG wielding tank and punched him 3 times fully modded with myro instead of defense. Apparently the heavy did nothing to defend himself. Self defense is OP, heavy. don't stand there like a donkey. Close your mouth and pull the trigger. you obviously havnt seen the video by a japanese dust player who was Rek'in people left and right as a monofib scout circleing and hitting it was bonkers.. i think it was Pegle "PEG" on youtube or something
ps. the heavys did try defend themselves but with the melee damage being quite high and the scout being at point blank they just couldnt turn fast enough
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Llast 326 wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:mollerz wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:TerranKnight87 wrote:We use both relative to different measurements. I also liken it to how us English swear a fair bit and don't talk properly (common speak), but when in a professional environment or engaging in serious matters, you'd think we were born with a silver spoon lodged betwix thine buttocks good sir. Hilariously the USMC ingrained metrics into me so hard I have a difficult time thinking in "feet" or "yards" much anymore. Feet is how tall you are, yards are something you use in the NFL and college football. The funny thing is if you, as an american, grew up using the imperial system you don't want to change, but once you are exposed to the metric system you see why it's better instantly. The only real problem I have is Fahrenheit to centigrade. I just can't wrap my head around it for some reason.. 30 degrees!? I better get my parka.. oops. at like -46 they are the same iirc :P - 40 is the same in either and having experienced this temperature to oftenGǪ YesGǪ Damn cold no matter how you measure it yup damn cold.
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TerranKnight87 wrote:
The new universal temperature scale.
Hold your nuts
Too cold
Really fking cold
Cold
Chilly
Warm
Sweaty
Going commando
Speedos at dawn
Too hot
I'll be sterilised if this goes on much longer
Gtfo
Nuts forged in the Sahara.
you forgot "Roasted Chestnuts" for the last one :P
but raptor jesus christ.. that "speedos at dawn" was too funny
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:NIETZCHES OVERMAN wrote:Llast 326 wrote:Imp Smash wrote:I like Imperial over Metric. It gives more FLAVOR to your measurements! Oddly I like my Metric over ImperialGǪ I feel it has more FLAVOUR Euro trash. The conquer decides the measurement. We won. We say feet and inches. you may have won independence via terrorist tactics but that dosnt change the fact your still useing a measurement system that is archaic and was what us Euro Trash used before we got smart and switched to metric because its more accurate. Yes we were not stupid enough to stand in a line and shoot at a giant line of British cannon fodder...Instead we used guerilla tactics (to call them terrorist tactics is a slight on the uk education system) we moved smart in stead of trying to match the red coats on their terms we outmatched them on our terms. They reached to far and were put down. and then years later their hubris in thinking they could impress American sailors into the British navy without consequences while also fighting napoleon is one of the major contributing factors to losing ocean supremacy. Their hubris fueled the emotions that got the first 6 American warships built and started the American navy which then took Their place as supreme naval power. After the economical collapse caused by massive trade bans from both France and America. And losing multiple warships to our new fleet did not help. Ps the first 6 American frigates were made with white oak native to these lands the materials we used made them vastly superior Their design was also a stroke of genius giving the more speed and durability than the frigates of the time. One of those ships was built a short walk from where I live. Our frigates captured countless ships for every one of them we gained 3 or 4 inferior English vessels who ever said i was talking about US vs UK? ;p
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Posted - 2014.10.18 17:17:00 -
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however.. back on topic..
SCOUT OP! scout is the infantry version of ADS(pre nerf) and needs nerfing accordingly
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