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Chief-Shotty
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.10.12 01:36:00 -
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As the title states i've decided to start SP into dropships a bit. I like to provide aerial support for my squad. I don't know too much about the meta game. I do know how to fly (i've practiced many times in militia ships) but not used to the combat environment. With that said i would like fitting tips or any general tactics. So with some knowledge from other dropship pilots here is what my current tactics.
I fit missile turrets for an Anti-infantry role I have a scanner to help find reds on the ground not just for general awareness but for the gunners to have an easier time to find targets.
I would activate my shield or armor hardener just prior to engaging, i can soak up initial hits and not have to immediately disengage or even buy time for my gunners to take out swarmers.
I find the myron is easiest to use for my approach:
2x Light shield boosters 1x Shield Hardener 1x basic scanner or afterburner depending on my gunner ability to communicate
If they don't communicate well or have a hard time finding targets---run scanner to help them If they can communicate i use afterburner to help us get out of area(survival)
I have only basic modules now but i want to focus on shield or armor them to provide max benefit.
NOTE: I do know about the recent nerf to dropships so i'm well aware of that ( Im a masochist) I also plan to go into assault dropships if i can't find any willing gunners, so any help there is also greatly appreciated.
8-Time New Eden Mass Driver Champion
Min Commando Combat Rifle and Mass Driver = FUN and Tears
OMG the Tears!! :)
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Zindorak
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
1071
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Posted - 2014.10.12 01:41:00 -
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Swarms will eat you alive. DS/ADS arent in a very good position atm
Pokemon master and Tekken Lord
Gk0 Scout yay :)
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LUGMOS
YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE
655
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Posted - 2014.10.12 01:47:00 -
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First you must consider these points:
1. Do you have a **** ton of money? 2. Do you have eagle vision? 3. Do you have a ton of SP? 4. Can you dedicate yourself to getting a full proto drop ship?
If you said no to any of these (especially 3 and 4), turn back now.
Quafe
A question doesn't always have an answer, but a problem does,
So what is DUST? A problem or a question?
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Zindorak
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
1071
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Posted - 2014.10.12 01:48:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:First you must consider these points:
1. Do you have a **** ton of money? 2. Do you have eagle vision? 3. Do you have a ton of SP? 4. Can you dedicate yourself to getting a full proto drop ship?
If you said no to any of these (especially 3 and 4), turn back now.
Pretty much
Pokemon master and Tekken Lord
Gk0 Scout yay :)
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
4142
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Posted - 2014.10.12 01:51:00 -
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Don't
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LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
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Chief-Shotty
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
300
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Posted - 2014.10.12 01:55:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:First you must consider these points:
1. Do you have a **** ton of money? 2. Do you have eagle vision? 3. Do you have a ton of SP? 4. Can you dedicate yourself to getting a full proto drop ship?
If you said no to any of these (especially 3 and 4), turn back now.
1. Got about 55 Million ISK 2. I got a nice sized tv (mainly rendering issue in game that would be a factor) 3. 49 Million In infantry planning here on out for dropships I can always fall back into infantry 4. Sure
8-Time New Eden Mass Driver Champion
Min Commando Combat Rifle and Mass Driver = FUN and Tears
OMG the Tears!! :)
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Atiim
12904
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Posted - 2014.10.12 01:59:00 -
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If you plan on using two gunners, I'd suggest:
1x Enhanced Heavy Shield Extender 1x Basic Light Shield Booster 1x Basic Shield Hardener 1x Basic Active Scanner
The Shield Extender + Hardener gives you 4940 Shield HP (5434 against FGs, 5978 against SLs). This allows you to tank an entire clip of IAFGs and 4 volleys from a Wyrikomi SL, and still have enough Armor to escape.
This, is where the Booster comes in. If you use it while they're reloading, your Shields should be completely up provided that you get to cover, effectively forcing the AVer to start from scratch and revealing his location to start from scratch.
1st Airborne is a channel for Dropship Pilots, and they frequently have gunners who are looking for Pilots. Though I can't tell you how skilled they are or their turret preferences, as they avoid me like the plague.
The 1st Matari Commando
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Zindorak
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
1072
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Posted - 2014.10.12 02:31:00 -
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Atiim wrote:If you plan on using two gunners, I'd suggest: 1x Enhanced Heavy Shield Extender 1x Basic Light Shield Booster 1x Basic Shield Hardener 1x Basic Active Scanner The Shield Extender + Hardener gives you 4940 Shield HP (5434 against FGs, 5978 against SLs). This allows you to tank an entire clip of IAFGs and 4 volleys from a Wyrikomi SL, and still have enough Armor to escape. This, is where the Booster comes in. If you use it while they're reloading, your Shields should be completely up provided that you get to cover, effectively forcing the AVer to start from scratch and revealing his location to start from scratch. 1st Airborne is a channel for Dropship Pilots, and they frequently have gunners who are looking for Pilots. Though I can't tell you how skilled they are or their turret preferences, as they avoid me like the plague. Its ok Atiim we can't handle ur uber presence as it makes us wee our pants
Pokemon master and Tekken Lord
Gk0 Scout yay :)
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Derpty Derp
Dead Man's Game RUST415
513
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Posted - 2014.10.12 02:54:00 -
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1 thing to think about when switching from militia to standard and above is that they don't auto level themselves, you'll no longer have to keep tilting forward every 2 seconds to keep it moving forwards... On the other hand if you didn't notice this before you'll likely crash a lot wondering why it keeps moving about even when you aren't pushing the sticks.
Fitting really wont matter until you've got some decent fitting optimization, because it's all balanced around being able to drop a proto ship with a militia swarm launcher.
I would advise trying blasters as side turrets if you like to get close to the action, they can tear people up nicely if you hold the ship steady enough... Try it on a LAV if you haven't already to see what I mean. Plus your gunners wont blow themselves up as much.
The ads is fine as long as you don't come up against swarms, chances are you wont know you're against them until you fall out of the sky though.
I'm not 100% sure on this, but I don't think the scanner will help random gunners, I'm semi-sure it only shows up for people in your squad... Either that or I've had some really dopey gunners, lol.
Last bit of advice, if you get an annoying blueberry stuck in your ship and want to recall or not have them steal the ship, fly into the redzone at a low altitude, most will get scared and jump out if you don't immediately turn back, lol. |
ACT1ON BASTARD
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
222
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Posted - 2014.10.12 05:29:00 -
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Start with a missle incubus. Heres the fit,comp pg, comp heavy plate, whatever reps, and at1s. Skill up your armor fitting and reps and just get at1s for now. Do not go into the incubus or python skill it does next to nothing. Trust me i wish i started w this knowledge, instead i went straight to python and the rammers, god the freakin rammers were unbearable, so go incubus just do it. Im a 20+ mil dropshipper, i know this sht like the back of my hand. If you any questions ask away. |
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Crimson ShieId
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
1049
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Posted - 2014.10.12 06:43:00 -
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Just a little note. Hardeners make it a ***** for gunners to hit anything. They have this nasty habit of obscuring the viewpoint and thus leave most gunners unable to even see what they're shooting at. I'd recommend ditching them if possible, unless you're just going in for transport.
Nova Knives are best sidearm.
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RemingtonBeaver
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1128
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Posted - 2014.10.12 09:50:00 -
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Go to my Youtube channel collection and look up Espeon Bons and Judge Radamanthus's channels.
You can definitely learn a thing or two watching them fly and watch their shield and armor totals as well as their module usage. Those can give you pointers as to fitting a ship.
Espeon is a hard pilot to hit with a forge gun. Watch him in a PC against my corp to see what I mean. |
Blueprint For Murder
Immortal Guides
108
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Posted - 2014.10.12 10:28:00 -
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First don't listen to any of these guys. If you are just learning to fly stick to mil dropships they are cheaper than most suits. Drop and then pick players up from the points a lot of pilots will tell you this is a bad idea, but not only is it fun you will learn to escape dangerous situation. I would advise the heavy ships they are slower and leave more room for error you will also be able to ram the light ads and dropships further increasing your ability to maneuver and stalk. Once you are in a place where you can land take off, land, and get away it is time to play with ads kill peeps and enjoy.
Note: I have rerolled from my ads pilot since I find ground assault more personal :D but I ram ads with mil dropships when needed.
I would not bother with watching videos of dust unless they are current patch or reviews since one point or another most things have been insanely op ads are a perfect example of this and in no way should be considered an example.
New, delicious, Soylent green the miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.
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Denchlad 7
Dead Man's Game
718
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Posted - 2014.10.12 14:37:00 -
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If you want to fly more comfortably, use the Incubus to start with. Its more bulkier and slower than the Python, but it can tank more damage. If you enjoy an expensive death, use a Python. Though not impossible to use (its like a Min Scout), its very difficault to use to begin with. I started with the Python when I first started to fly and switched to Incubus and found it a lot easier.
I'll add more detailed stuff about Fittings/Standard Dropships later.
The Connoisseur of Weapons. 19/19 L5 P1.
"GET BACK HERE YOU SCRUB" - Lorelei Zee 2014
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ACT1ON BASTARD
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
222
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Posted - 2014.10.12 17:28:00 -
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Blueprint For Murder wrote:First don't listen to any of these guys. If you are just learning to fly stick to mil dropships they are cheaper than most suits. Drop and then pick players up from the points a lot of pilots will tell you this is a bad idea, but not only is it fun you will learn to escape dangerous situation. I would advise the heavy ships they are slower and leave more room for error you will also be able to ram the light ads and dropships further increasing your ability to maneuver and stalk. Once you are in a place where you can land take off, land, and get away it is time to play with ads kill peeps and enjoy.
Note: I have rerolled from my ads pilot since I find ground assault more personal :D but I ram ads with mil dropships when needed.
I would not bother with watching videos of dust unless they are current patch or reviews since one point or another most things have been insanely op ads are a perfect example of this and in no way should be considered an example. You dont get wp for flying a grimsones or myron only assists if you have a gunner. Sure it has more survivability but you dont get crap for wp unless you bring uplinks but you can do that in any dropship. |
Dergle
Kiith Sobani
41
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Posted - 2014.10.12 18:22:00 -
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Join the 1st airborne channel like Atiim said and squad up some time. I am more than happy to help aspiring pilots.
DUST is not a democracy!
Ain't nobody want to hear your problems, Everyone got problems.
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Chief-Shotty
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
302
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Posted - 2014.10.13 22:45:00 -
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I would just like to thank everyone who posted, that i appreciate your input.
I have gotten plenty of advice here and even joined the 1st airborne channel. So thank you everybody.
8-Time New Eden Mass Driver Champion
Min Commando Combat Rifle and Mass Driver = FUN and Tears
OMG the Tears!! :)
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