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Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.10.11 23:25:00 -
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KFW-02 Breach Scrambler Rifle:
Damage - 87 RoF - 450 Fire mode - Semi Automatic DPS - 660 Optimal Range(100%) - 50m Effective Range(50%) - 75m Absolute Range(10%) - 250m Mag Size - 12 Damage per Mag - 1044 Carried Ammo - 132 (10+1 Mags) Reload Speed - 2s Headshot Multiplier - 300% Headshot Damage - 261 Hipfire Accuracy - the same as the RR ADS Accuracy - perfect, just like all the other weapons. Kick - quite a bit. more per shot than any other rifle. CPU - 53 PG - 14 ISK - 17,625 Prerequisite Skill - Scrambler Rifle Operation IV
Kador Family Breach Scrambler Rifle:
Damage - 91.14 RoF - 450 Fire mode - Semi Automatic DPS - 683.57 Optimal Range(100%) - 50m Effective Range(50%) - 75m Absolute Range(10%) - 250m Mag Size - 12 Damage per Mag - 1093.71 Carried Ammo - 132 (10+1 Mags) Reload Speed - 2s Headshot Multiplier - 300% Headshot Damage - 273.43 Hipfire Accuracy - the same as the RR ADS Accuracy - perfect, just like all the other weapons. Kick - quite a bit. more per shot than any other rifle. CPU - 92 PG - 20 ISK - 77,280 Prerequisite Skill - Scrambler Rifle Proficiency II |
Zindorak
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
1071
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Posted - 2014.10.12 00:12:00 -
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Instead of Kador familiy i suggest Ducia Foundry. Randorm Amarr NPC corp i searched up lol
Pokemon master and Tekken Lord
Gk0 Scout yay :)
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Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
478
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Posted - 2014.10.12 00:39:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:Instead of Kador familiy i suggest Ducia Foundry. Randorm Amarr NPC corp i searched up lol Ducia Foundry is a decent sized mining corp. Honestly nothing special.
Kador Family is one of the richest and most influential families in New Eden. More Amarrian Emperors come from the Kador Family than any other place. They have an entire region of the cluster named after them.
What one of those two seems more likely to be making weapons? |
Alena Ventrallis
Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo
1912
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Posted - 2014.10.12 00:44:00 -
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Breach is automatic. Increase mag size to reflect this. Other than that, I see no fault.
Listen to my muscle memory
Contemplate what I've been clinging to
Forty-six and two ahead of me
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Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
478
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Posted - 2014.10.12 00:46:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:Breach is automatic. Increase mag size to reflect this. Other than that, I see no fault. Don't we have enough automatics already? |
Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
4141
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Posted - 2014.10.12 00:52:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:Breach is automatic. Increase mag size to reflect this. Other than that, I see no fault. Don't we have enough automatics already? The Amarr? Nope!
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
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Zindorak
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
1071
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Posted - 2014.10.12 00:58:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Zindorak wrote:Instead of Kador familiy i suggest Ducia Foundry. Randorm Amarr NPC corp i searched up lol Ducia Foundry is a decent sized mining corp. Honestly nothing special. Kador Family is one of the richest and most influential families in New Eden. More Amarrian Emperors come from the Kador Family than any other place. They have an entire region of the cluster named after them. What one of those two seems more likely to be making weapons? Ducia Sounds better though
Pokemon master and Tekken Lord
Gk0 Scout yay :)
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
7934
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Posted - 2014.10.12 01:51:00 -
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Doesnt match the lore. Especially when you even said it was a random family.
CCP holds the Caldari's hand so this doesn't happen again.
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Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
479
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Posted - 2014.10.12 04:56:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Doesnt match the lore. Especially when you even said it was a random family. Doe it really matter what family though? Its pretty likely for ANY of the heir-families to be making weapons, isn't it? Some more likely than others, with Sarum probably topping the list tbh, but they all have more than enough reason to be making their own guns. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
18106
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Posted - 2014.10.12 16:20:00 -
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Can we not debate the exact naming convention and debate the merits of the proposal instead?
The forums have ruined me.
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Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
481
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Posted - 2014.10.12 16:45:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Can we not debate the exact naming convention and debate the merits of the proposal instead? Yes. If I knew I was going to receive so much flak for something so petty, I wouldn't have included it... Honestly, I don't care about the name, as long as it isn't Viziam or Carthum.
Does anyone see any issues with the actual stats? OP? UP? Just Right? Do you like it? Do you hate it? Do you think there is something fundamentally flawed.
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hfderrtgvcd
754
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Posted - 2014.10.12 16:54:00 -
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DPS is way too high
You can't fight in here! This is the war room.
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Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
481
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Posted - 2014.10.12 17:14:00 -
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hfderrtgvcd wrote:DPS is way too high It has lower DPS, Range, a smaller magazine, and more kick than both the TacAR and ScR. So excuse me for disagreeing with your statement when you don't provide any reasoning for why its "way too high". I figured these sacrifices were enough for the headshot multiplier, and help to reinforce its role of an Alpha Damage centric rifle. |
Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
516
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Posted - 2014.10.15 13:23:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:Breach is automatic. Increase mag size to reflect this. Other than that, I see no fault. Breach isn't automatic. Breach is Higher Damage with Lower RoF. The Firing mode stays the same as the basic variant. A Breach ScR would be Semiautomatic.
Examples: Breach Scrambler Pistol Breach Forge Gun Breach Shotgun Breach Mass Driver
All of those weapons fire the same as their basic counterpart, just slower and harder.
Conversely,
Breach Assault Rifle Breach SMG
These are the only two Breach Variants that are automatic. I'm not counting the Caldari Weapons in this because they are the basic variants, so they don't really belong in a comparison of Breach vs Standard variants. |
TooMany Names AlreadyTaken
Going for the gold
200
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Posted - 2014.10.15 15:46:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:hfderrtgvcd wrote:DPS is way too high It has lower DPS, Range, a smaller magazine, and more kick than both the TacAR and ScR. So excuse me for disagreeing with your statement when you don't provide any reasoning for why its "way too high". I figured these sacrifices were enough for the headshot multiplier, and help to reinforce its role of an Alpha Damage centric rifle. Your calculations are wrong, the other rifles have 400-450 DPS.
40 kills with the most basic, cheapest possible dual-wielding standard Bolt Pistol fit...
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Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
518
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Posted - 2014.10.15 16:10:00 -
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:hfderrtgvcd wrote:DPS is way too high It has lower DPS, Range, a smaller magazine, and more kick than both the TacAR and ScR. So excuse me for disagreeing with your statement when you don't provide any reasoning for why its "way too high". I figured these sacrifices were enough for the headshot multiplier, and help to reinforce its role of an Alpha Damage centric rifle. Your calculations are wrong, the other rifles have 400-450 DPS. My calculations are not wrong.
The tactical rifles have 650-728 DPS. This is a semiautomatic rifle, like them. It should have similar DPS. |
The-Errorist
SVER True Blood
829
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Posted - 2014.10.15 18:10:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:Breach is automatic. Increase mag size to reflect this. Other than that, I see no fault. Breach isn't automatic. Breach is Higher Damage with Lower RoF. The Firing mode stays the same as the basic variant. A Breach ScR would be Semiautomatic. Examples: Breach Scrambler Pistol Breach Forge Gun Breach Shotgun Breach Mass Driver All of those weapons fire the same as their basic counterpart, just slower and harder. Conversely, Breach Assault Rifle Breach SMG These are the only two Breach Variants that are automatic. I'm not counting the Caldari Weapons in this because they are the basic variants, so they don't really belong in a comparison of Breach vs Standard variants. I also fully expect the Breach Combat Rifle to fire in slow, high damage bursts. +1
MAG + Dust cb vet, an alt of Velvet Overkill & Agent Overkill. http://vimeo.com/93181621
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
13570
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Posted - 2014.10.15 19:48:00 -
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I'd love a breach variant that comes between DMR and Sniper Rifle.
15 round magazine firing up to 6 shots before over heat with a 1 second+ delay between shots, projecting the shots out to 150m.
Couple that with my dream Riot shields and I'd force PCLAS to have Jezzail teams on all our defensive points.
"We were commanded to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocents caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
522
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Posted - 2014.10.15 20:57:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:I'd love a breach variant that comes between DMR and Sniper Rifle.
15 round magazine firing up to 6 shots before over heat with a 1 second+ delay between shots, projecting the shots out to 150m.
Couple that with my dream Riot shields and I'd force PCLAS to have Jezzail teams on all our defensive points.
Tactical Laser Rifle? A fire rate of less than 60 would warrant ~375 damage per shot at 150m. That would **** people off real quick. Let's do it! |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
13570
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Posted - 2014.10.15 21:02:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:True Adamance wrote:I'd love a breach variant that comes between DMR and Sniper Rifle.
15 round magazine firing up to 6 shots before over heat with a 1 second+ delay between shots, projecting the shots out to 150m.
Couple that with my dream Riot shields and I'd force PCLAS to have Jezzail teams on all our defensive points. Tactical Laser Rifle? A fire rate of less than 60 would warrant ~375 damage per shot at 150m. That would **** people off real quick. Let's do it! Tactical Scrambler Rifle.
This a not a weapon that can or should be used with beams. I was thinking of something that harkened back to the old large bore rifles British Colonial Forces used (the ones from Zulu and Zulu Dawn).
"We were commanded to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocents caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
655
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Posted - 2014.10.15 21:27:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:True Adamance wrote:I'd love a breach variant that comes between DMR and Sniper Rifle.
15 round magazine firing up to 6 shots before over heat with a 1 second+ delay between shots, projecting the shots out to 150m.
Couple that with my dream Riot shields and I'd force PCLAS to have Jezzail teams on all our defensive points. Tactical Laser Rifle? A fire rate of less than 60 would warrant ~375 damage per shot at 150m. That would **** people off real quick. Let's do it! Tactical Scrambler Rifle. This a not a weapon that can or should be used with beams. I was thinking of something that harkened back to the old large bore rifles British Colonial Forces used (the ones from Zulu and Zulu Dawn).
It doesn't need to be a beam. High power pulse laser. Honestly, the Laser Rifle needs more variants, and it is sort of the long range or support weapon for the Amarr.
Swag-suit4lyfe!
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
5567
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Posted - 2014.10.26 20:07:00 -
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This needs to be a thing.
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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BL4CKST4R
La Muerte Eterna Dark Taboo
3233
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Posted - 2014.10.26 23:02:00 -
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Ha you tried to sneak in that op as hell headshot on a rifle. No sir no!
supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
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Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
655
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Posted - 2014.10.26 23:32:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Ha you tried to sneak in that op as hell headshot on a rifle. No sir no! I think it seems fair with all the other shortcoming I slapped all over the thing, and it seems more than fitting on a Scrambler(they literally got their name from what they do to the human brain). It isn't even as strong as the pistol's bonus either. Yes sir yes!
Swag-suit4lyfe!
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Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
655
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Posted - 2014.10.26 23:34:00 -
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I updated it a little bit. Basically described how I Imagine the recoil should be, and increased the reload time a little bit (2s to 2.25s)to help make up for the fact it doesnt overheat.
Swag-suit4lyfe!
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BL4CKST4R
La Muerte Eterna Dark Taboo
3233
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Posted - 2014.10.26 23:48:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Ha you tried to sneak in that op as hell headshot on a rifle. No sir no! I think it seems fair with all the other shortcoming I slapped all over the thing, and it seems more than fitting on a Scrambler(they literally got their name from what they do to the human brain). It isn't even as strong as the pistol's bonus either. Yes sir yes!
Mmm I think it would he really balanced with a normal headshot profile and a clip buff. I get that your trying to fit the "scrambler" profile but on a rifle it's very op, especially if you charge this thing with a 300% profil, you can oneshot any suit and two-three shot a heavy.
supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
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Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
655
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Posted - 2014.10.26 23:54:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Ha you tried to sneak in that op as hell headshot on a rifle. No sir no! I think it seems fair with all the other shortcoming I slapped all over the thing, and it seems more than fitting on a Scrambler(they literally got their name from what they do to the human brain). It isn't even as strong as the pistol's bonus either. Yes sir yes! Mmm I think it would he really balanced with a normal headshot profile and a clip buff. I get that your trying to fit the "scrambler" profile but on a rifle it's very op, especially if you charge this thing with a 300% profil, you can oneshot any suit and two-three shot a heavy. It doesn't charge.
Swag-suit4lyfe!
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BL4CKST4R
La Muerte Eterna Dark Taboo
3233
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Posted - 2014.10.26 23:58:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Ha you tried to sneak in that op as hell headshot on a rifle. No sir no! I think it seems fair with all the other shortcoming I slapped all over the thing, and it seems more than fitting on a Scrambler(they literally got their name from what they do to the human brain). It isn't even as strong as the pistol's bonus either. Yes sir yes! Mmm I think it would he really balanced with a normal headshot profile and a clip buff. I get that your trying to fit the "scrambler" profile but on a rifle it's very op, especially if you charge this thing with a 300% profil, you can oneshot any suit and two-three shot a heavy. It doesn't charge.
You don't mention that
supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
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Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
655
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Posted - 2014.10.27 00:15:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Ha you tried to sneak in that op as hell headshot on a rifle. No sir no! I think it seems fair with all the other shortcoming I slapped all over the thing, and it seems more than fitting on a Scrambler(they literally got their name from what they do to the human brain). It isn't even as strong as the pistol's bonus either. Yes sir yes! Mmm I think it would he really balanced with a normal headshot profile and a clip buff. I get that your trying to fit the "scrambler" profile but on a rifle it's very op, especially if you charge this thing with a 300% profil, you can oneshot any suit and two-three shot a heavy. It doesn't charge. You don't mention that
I updated it just for you. No charge shots. I figured people would just pick up on that there was no charge because I never included anything about them in the first place...
And I do agree that charge shot would make it ludicrously OP, but I still think the headshot bonus is fine.
Swag-suit4lyfe!
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