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Hector Carson BLACK MAGES INC. 24	Posted - 2014.10.11 03:47:00 - [1] - Quote In Battle finder: Tier 1: Basic/Militia (meaning you must be equipped with these types, nothing higher) Tier 2: Advance (weapon and Dropsuit only) prototype gear not permitted by any means Tier 3: Prototype (Weapon and Dropsuit only) Proficiency must be level 1 for light weapons and heavy weapons only Factional: must be Advanced and/or Prototype Corporate Contract: up to corporation CEO Other: Never figured out what this is. Remember these are just Ideas that I'm tossing around if you like throw your ideas in Death to all
Vell0cet Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 2358	Posted - 2014.10.11 04:11:00 - [2] - Quote It's not the gear it's the SP, map knowledge and teamwork. Tier 1 will be full of Starter Fit stompers looking to pad their K/D. Better to make an optional academy mode for players under 5 mill SP. Best PvE idea ever!
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kyoudai Furinkazan 1252	Posted - 2014.10.11 04:32:00 - [3] - Quote I can sure tell when the forums are dull and people get bored and just let their minds go roaming , this and side arms as well as the assault rifles causing damage to drop ships shows the blandness in the game at the moment . Just one bad idea after the next . CCP create an interest in this environment so these people will have something better to do . Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
Hector Carson BLACK MAGES INC. 24	Posted - 2014.10.11 05:36:00 - [4] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: It's not the gear it's the SP, map knowledge and teamwork. Tier 1 will be full of Starter Fit stompers looking to pad their K/D. Better to make an optional academy mode for players under 5 mill SP. Ok that does sound better Death to all
Lost Apollo Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.10.11 08:11:00 - [5] - Quote I've said something very similar once. Iam in full support of this idea. but make the tiers SP based only... I am Caldari, but that does not mean I support our alliance with the Amarr..
Hector Carson BLACK MAGES INC. 25	Posted - 2014.10.13 18:45:00 - [6] - Quote Lost Apollo wrote: I've said something very similar once. Iam in full support of this idea. but make the tiers SP based only... The problem with the SP is that some people have high SP but no proto gear, if you think about this is so you can choose the tier lvl not it choosing for you by SP, having SP Tier system would cause it to be extremely one sided. if you needed a better explanation please don't hesitate to ask. Death to all
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 13507	Posted - 2014.10.13 20:03:00 - [7] - Quote I'm still all for EVE Tier system in Dust. Militia is its own tier. T1 represents everything that is not a specialised vehicle or dropsuit. E.G- Amarr Medium Frame, Madrugar and Gunlogi, Standard Dropships etc T2 represents everything that is specialised and has specific functions represented by bonuses. E.G- Amarr Ak.0, Vayu and Falchion, Assault Dropships, etc "We were commanded to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocents caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
Hector Carson BLACK MAGES INC. 26	Posted - 2014.10.13 22:46:00 - [8] - Quote True Adamance wrote: I'm still all for EVE Tier system in Dust. Militia is its own tier. T1 represents everything that is not a specialised vehicle or dropsuit. E.G- Amarr Medium Frame, Madrugar and Gunlogi, Standard Dropships etc T2 represents everything that is specialised and has specific functions represented by bonuses. E.G- Amarr Ak.0, Vayu and Falchion, Assault Dropships, etc I hate to say this but not many people know about EVE, Also it would be easier to keep it simple for the newer players, But I do like where your coming from. The reason Militia and Basic are in the same Tier is because there is absolutely no difference except in PG/CPU Death to all
True-Amarr Loyalist machines of war 0	Posted - 2014.10.20 11:41:00 - [9] - Quote I am tired of being proto stomped every day and not being able to do anything about it. I just want a fair match with other people of my sp or gear level. I don't care if im getting out gun by some one better than me but when I unload into some one and hit them almost dead on every time and they wont die do to their gear.. It take the fun out of it.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5029	Posted - 2014.10.20 15:59:00 - [10] - Quote True-Amarr Loyalist wrote: I am tired of being proto stomped every day and not being able to do anything about it. I just want a fair match with other people of my sp or gear level. I don't care if im getting out gun by some one better than me but when I unload into some one and hit them almost dead on every time and they wont die do to their gear.. It take the fun out of it. Try joining a corp where you can find squads. Maybe you have that in the corp you are in, but I've never seen your corp in game. Try looking at the weekly kill/wp leaderboards for corporations and find an active corp. I can't stress how much better your experience will be if you are playing with squads of competent players. I wish my avatar was Minmatar.

Jack 3enimble Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 439	Posted - 2014.10.20 16:07:00 - [11] - Quote Hector Carson wrote: Lost Apollo wrote: I've said something very similar once. Iam in full support of this idea. but make the tiers SP based only... The problem with the SP is that some people have high SP but no proto gear, if you think about this is so you can choose the tier lvl not it choosing for you by SP, having SP Tier system would cause it to be extremely one sided. if you needed a better explanation please don't hesitate to ask. Im sorry, but you make it sound like proto gear makes all the difference. The gap between standard and advanced is bigger than the gap between advanced and prototype.
Jack 3enimble Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 439	Posted - 2014.10.20 16:08:00 - [12] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: True-Amarr Loyalist wrote: I am tired of being proto stomped every day and not being able to do anything about it. I just want a fair match with other people of my sp or gear level. I don't care if im getting out gun by some one better than me but when I unload into some one and hit them almost dead on every time and they wont die do to their gear.. It take the fun out of it. Try joining a corp where you can find squads. Maybe you have that in the corp you are in, but I've never seen your corp in game. Try looking at the weekly kill/wp leaderboards for corporations and find an active corp. I can't stress how much better your experience will be if you are playing with squads of competent players. Agreed
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 3756	Posted - 2014.10.20 16:44:00 - [13] - Quote Hector Carson wrote: In Battle finder: Tier 1: Optional Academy Mode for 5mil SP and below (idea from Vell0cet) Tier 2: Basic/Militia (meaning you must be equipped with these types, nothing higher) Tier 3: Advance (weapon and Dropsuit only) prototype gear not permitted by any means Tier 4: Prototype (Weapon and Dropsuit only) Proficiency must be level 1 for light weapons and heavy weapons only Factional: must be Advanced and/or Prototype Corporate Contract: up to corporation CEO PvE: Any gear (Drones attack) Remember these are just Ideas that I'm tossing around if you like throw your ideas in Does not address the fact that if I run a freefit STD dropsuit with militia mods I'll tear the ass off of any newer player who JUST got their first proto suit and weapon. That's if I run assaults, which I suck at and have no SP. But I have everything else cranked WAY the hell up. You'd need to make SP tiers for your idea to make sense, and even then, it's not a great metric because some people are hella generalized, and some players (me) are very focused and only after over 30 million SP beginning to branch out. EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game RUST415 560	Posted - 2014.10.20 18:45:00 - [14] - Quote Optional academy - yes... Everything else - unfeasible. I don't honestly think I have any fit of purely 1 tier... What about vehicles? lower tier will be full of Soma Blaster scrubs (like every ambush OMS.) As has been said the main advantage is in having the high skill points invested, seriously since getting lvl 5 GalMando my scrubby 5k fit is able to farm most adv suits, pit me against people who only have low end gear because of their lack of sp and everyone's gonna be bored. Wait until they improve factional and make it the 'go to mode' for tryhards and most of the proto spam will be out of pubs. Honestly more isk so everyone can lose a few proto suits would make the game more interesting, rather than 1 team farming isk while the other farms kills.


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