They were originally a group who started working on Caldari FW alongside Kirjun Heiian, a channel comprised of long a few Caldari RPers, EVE pilots, and was somewhat the De Facto channel for Cal FW as I understand it.

Initially Z Platoon competed and worked with Kirjuun, eventually using scathing accusations that Kirjuun was a channel filled with scrubs and poor players, poaching some of what were perceived as the top tier players, and casting out anyone who did not meet their "standards"...... as I am told from several members of the Caldari Militia

As I saw it at the time..... it was the channel that fractured Cal FW, and for all its successes to its members has never truly served as a channel that would or could unite the Caldari militia.

Though I am now informed its original founder is no longer at its head. I can only assume its changed hands the channel is something different entirely.

Last night I finally hit Level 10 in Amarr FW.

I believe it is now my duty to help the Caldari regain their Home world.

I am your sword Z-Platoon, use me as you wish

Well, I guess we'll be queue syncing gallente this weekend to teach these guys a lesson..... :)

Last night I finally hit Level 10 in Amarr FW.

I believe it is now my duty to help the Caldari regain their Home world.

I am your sword Z-Platoon, use me as you wish

Are you like the first person to ever reach level 10?

The level of dedication is staggering.

I don't think the problem lies with us but more in the fact that more players lean towards Gallente and Minmatar. There's no attack timer on districts so we lose them as fast as we gain them.

In small games like this, leaders matter, and unfortunately for Caldari Z Platoon is one of very few leaders.

As long as you guys keep leading into a small insular group that is isolated from the "pub" players who form the backbone of other FW efforts, Caldari FW will be crippled.

I think its great you guys are making a public channel to draw from, but I wont be joining it even though I had a lot of fun playing with you guys in your old channel, because Im sure the second you feel comfortable in how great you are and what scrubs everyone else is you'll turtle up in your private channel until you realize not having a full queue sync sucks again.

This despite the fact that I had a ton of fun back when your channel was more open running cal FW with you guys, not that I expect you to remember me, because you dont seem to remember anyone outside your core members even if they contributed alot more than I did. Maybe thats a big part of your problem.

Well, I guess we'll be queue syncing gallente this weekend to teach these guys a lesson..... :)

they won't even show up and its just going to get a bunch of caldari randoms proto stomped again.

I see your point but the "old z platoon" is just a group of friend ATM bwe truly want to get rid of our "elitist private chat" all I have to say give us a chance at least I want z platoon to be a group of friend but the z platoon pub to be the main miltia. I don't even know if your going to understand what I mean but whatever.
Oh and we want the pub to be the main force the private channel not even that active anymore so we most likely wont be using much it might just be uses for forming a second team if Tue pub(main) channel is fullq sync and we don't want to confuse coms.

they won't even show up and its just going to get a bunch of caldari randoms proto stomped again.

We're the best Caldari players the game has to offer. Hands down.

Like I said just a few minutes ago in another post. We never lose. I've lost maybe 3 cal fw battles in the last 8 months. As far as not working with others I have no idea why they say that. Kirjuun was brought up but they're a pub channel that lets anyone come in and we don't roll like that. As for PIE I have no idea, I'm in their room and squad with them on occasion but never heard about them wanting help.

As for us being dicks we're not but we don't really let scrubs in. We want you running proto gear and we want you listening on coms. The main problems occur when we tell the team to let them have an objective and we'll surround it and killbox but some ******* will hack the objective and then get team killed. That's started some pretty serious arguments before but other than that we don't have problems.

Our biggest problem is people getting tired of losing to us and trying to sabotage our rooms.

Umm Ive seen you plenty and you are far from that good.

Otherwise you would be holding some of Molden Heath. I havent seen a good challenge from the Caldari side in forever unless FA or 1 UP is over there in full squad.

Rant Inbound!!

This is why I gave up on that CalFW **** (excuse my language)!!

Everybody wanted to be this top dog ultra elite, I'm johnny bad ass durr durr, instead of working together to achieve a common goal!

Me and a few guys shared a vision of bringing Caldari players together to initiate a gaming environment, a community, a band of brothers, whom loved everything Caldari and would fight to raise its flag in honor.

Of course the rose tinted glasses dropped off to all the silly nonsense.

We would reach out to people. No response. Oh, I wasn't one of those famous "elite" guys on the forums whom blew each other on the boards daily, so they dismissed. "Who are you?" were the questions. Too many wanna be chiefs and not enough indians.

Then with Caldari Hierarchy, it was open comms. I wanted something more. Something more sophisticated. Military like. In a meeting with folks and we made Kirjuun Heiian after deciding on a name. Told them, let's make it password protected. Let's carefully select the players whom are serious. But no. One ignored me like I was just babbling. Made another comm channel, still open, and the SAME DAMN THING HAPPENED TO KH!

Oh I was upset. Meanwhile, Gallente talking **** and I couldn't say a damn thing besides the common "shut up four eyes" retort. Sometimes it would get nasty. I wanted to shut them up with a unified front, but players were too stupid to understand that with unity comes triumph. No matter the skill, comradity builds people stronger. Oh how I wanted the action to back it, but majority of players whom called themselves Caldari weren't Caldari.

Z Platoon is just another example of the stupidity of the majority of Cal players. NOBODY NETWORKS!! It's like I was dealing with Call of Duty players who didn't want to network with people unless they were elite. It just made me so damn mad!

So I gave up on it. OUKH folded. I watched KH turn into a kiddie show with dinosaurs and unicorns. People in there asking to queue up for GalFW and squads for pub matches!! WTF?!

Left a bitter taste in my mouth man. True Adamance and his guys were my inspiration. I wanted to build something like PIE with players. I respected our allies for that. Those guys were dedicated. We just lacked the intelligent mature players to do so.

So much ineptitude. So much elitism. So much stupidity. IMO, only a handful of people represented the Cal way.

My apologies OP, I know you probably read this before. But everytime this subject comes up (or anything remotely related to it), the sour memory comes to mind and it just pisses me off.

The damn Gallente had a more sophisticated front than us and they are some damn druggies; obnoxious slobs!!!

Okay. I'm talking about my experience of the past. Why does the internet always pull out "oh well I had this experience now and its hurr durr good".

That has nothing to do with the experience I had and why the Caldari constantly got MOPPED UP before all you new bloods came over to Dust 514

And may I add...STILL GETTING MOPPED UP! Just like the Z Platoon who thinks because they win battles, everything is alright. LOL! It takes a multitude, NOT A SQUAD, to make a difference.

Stop thinking like a infantrymen and think like a General. You can win the battle and still lose the war son.

Rant Inbound!!

This is why I gave up on that CalFW **** (excuse my language)!!

Everybody wanted to be this top dog ultra elite, I'm johnny bad ass durr durr, instead of working together to achieve a common goal!

Me and a few guys shared a vision of bringing Caldari players together to initiate a gaming environment, a community, a band of brothers, whom loved everything Caldari and would fight to raise its flag in honor.

Of course the rose tinted glasses dropped off to all the silly nonsense.

We would reach out to people. No response. Oh, I wasn't one of those famous "elite" guys on the forums whom blew each other on the boards daily, so they dismissed. "Who are you?" were the questions. Too many wanna be chiefs and not enough indians.

Then with Caldari Hierarchy, it was open comms. I wanted something more. Something more sophisticated. Military like. In a meeting with folks and we made Kirjuun Heiian after deciding on a name. Told them, let's make it password protected. Let's carefully select the players whom are serious. But no. One ignored me like I was just babbling. Made another comm channel, still open, and the SAME DAMN THING HAPPENED TO KH!

Oh I was upset. Meanwhile, Gallente talking **** and I couldn't say a damn thing besides the common "shut up four eyes" retort. Sometimes it would get nasty. I wanted to shut them up with a unified front, but players were too stupid to understand that with unity comes triumph. No matter the skill, comradity builds people stronger. Oh how I wanted the action to back it, but majority of players whom called themselves Caldari weren't Caldari.

Z Platoon is just another example of the stupidity of the majority of Cal players. NOBODY NETWORKS!! It's like I was dealing with Call of Duty players who didn't want to network with people unless they were elite. It just made me so damn mad!

So I gave up on it. OUKH folded. I watched KH turn into a kiddie show with dinosaurs and unicorns. People in there asking to queue up for GalFW and squads for pub matches!! WTF?!

Left a bitter taste in my mouth man. True Adamance and his guys were my inspiration. I wanted to build something like PIE with players. I respected our allies for that. Those guys were dedicated. We just lacked the intelligent mature players to do so.

So much ineptitude. So much elitism. So much stupidity. IMO, only a handful of people represented the Cal way.

My apologies OP, I know you probably read this before. But everytime this subject comes up (or anything remotely related to it), the sour memory comes to mind and it just pisses me off.

The damn Gallente had a more sophisticated front than us and they are some damn druggies; obnoxious slobs!!!

Again with this elitist crap where does it spew from? Why? Because our room is private? Almost everyone who asks gets in, it's only password protected to keep out the trolls. Again, people see us differently than for what we are. We do help the Caldari and most of us were apart of Kirjuun and OUKH. The difference in our groups is we have 4 or 5 guys who are dedicated at putting squads together. KH and OUKH never had that, ever. People are sheep bro, honestly you have to have a few people hurding everyone or it doesn't work. That's what happens in Z Platoon. It's the same few guys creating squads and syncing. Drop the elitist crap we have plenty of newer players.

I wasn't even talking about you...but...

If you took offense to my post then you are the EXACT kind of people I am talking about.

I'm not stepping down from my words. The elitism attitude really sucks. Tryhards whom are over compensating for a video game.

I'm all about working with people, no matter their skill level or drawbacks. You show you got the merit and heart to do it, then I believe anything is possible.

Not with you elites. Got your mind too much on being snobby dickheads whom think they better than anybody else cause they good with a controller.

It's small minds like you that don't think larger. I was thinking about the larger picture, not about the immediate wins, the "oh at least we are winning our matches" BS.

and don't tell me what KH or OUKH had. Were you there?? No you weren't you were too busy giving out hand jobs to you and your elitist boys.

So take that crap up the block man.

Both of those are corps where they're players are clearly labeled. Z Platoon isn't a corp, unless you recognize our names before battle you won't even know you're playing us. That is until we've capped everything. We pretty much never lose, really I can't remember the last time I lost a Cal FW when running with Z Platoon its been a long time and we regularly face full qsync'd teams as well. I'm pretty sure we've waxed a bunch of 1UPers quite a few times. The same goes for all the Gallente players posting on this thread, we've waxed all of them as well. A few people tried making a Z Platoon corp but it never panned out as everyone preferred to stick with their respective corp and just play Z platoon for Cal FW.