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maluble Art.of.Death VP Gaming Alliance 103	Posted - 2014.10.09 18:36:00 - [1] - Quote This is not a complaint but an observation. Why do heavys get to turn as fast as my scout? They are the largest frame stacking alot of hp and wielding a massive weapon. Now im no genius but wouldnt that impede them from turning around fast like they do? Also how can a hmg shoot over an obstacle that the weapon is 3 feet lower than? Makes 0 sence to see the hmg is well under a railing for example yet he just shoots right through it. All im asking in exchange is that I can stab people with my kn through walls.
Ku Shala The Generals 967	Posted - 2014.10.09 18:41:00 - [2] - Quote heavys can fall the furthest and do the most melee too...... *-¦a+ó a+ú-Æa+äla+ä (Caldari Specialist)* Caldari Loyalist *Assault -Logistics-Sentinal-Scout-Commando Allround CK-0
DEZKA DIABLO THE FOOTCLAN 709	Posted - 2014.10.09 18:43:00 - [3] - Quote Politely ranting lol DONT EVER COMPLAIN, USE CAPS LOCK OR POINT OUT WHAT BROKEN WITH OUR GAME OR WE WILL DEFINITELY BAN YOUR ASS FOR 6 MONTHS
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 3520	Posted - 2014.10.09 18:59:00 - [4] - Quote Heavies can turn fast because we were force-fed this "HEAVIES ARE CQC AND POINT DEFENSE ONLY" bullcrap. Then it became glaringly obvious that they failed utterly in the role of CQC monster because all any other suit had to do to win against a heavy was run lazily in a circle while ADSing and shoot the fatty in the side of the head. It was a balance issue because heavies weren't allowed to have enough range to be a credible threat against fast moving targets, so for a while the fatsuits enjoyed the role of "professional victim" And thus all turn speeds were normalized so you cannot render a CQC suit helpless by strafing at 10m.
Bright Steel Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 140	Posted - 2014.10.09 19:08:00 - [5] - Quote Why can a scout mount the same size armor plate as a heavy, actually I think they can equip more. The Best Worst game you can't stop playing..... DUST
maluble Art.of.Death VP Gaming Alliance 107	Posted - 2014.10.09 19:17:00 - [6] - Quote Bright Steel wrote: Why can a scout mount the same size armor plate as a heavy, actually I think they can equip more. No arguments fom me, I run min scout and I dont think we should be able to use regular plates just ferroscal and reactive but you should sacrifice passive ewar bonus for it. Also scouts should carry sidearms only we have unfair advantage at range with battle rifles because of their strafe speed and small hit box. Nothing pisses me off more than seeing a shield/armour tanked scout with a battle rifle.
maluble Art.of.Death VP Gaming Alliance 107	Posted - 2014.10.09 19:18:00 - [7] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Heavies can turn fast because we were force-fed this "HEAVIES ARE CQC AND POINT DEFENSE ONLY" bullcrap. Then it became glaringly obvious that they failed utterly in the role of CQC monster because all any other suit had to do to win against a heavy was run lazily in a circle while ADSing and shoot the fatty in the side of the head. It was a balance issue because heavies weren't allowed to have enough range to be a credible threat against fast moving targets, so for a while the fatsuits enjoyed the role of "professional victim" And thus all turn speeds were normalized so you cannot render a CQC suit helpless by strafing at 10m. I get what your saying but still doesnt make sence from a physics standpoint. Also how do explain shooting over something that your gun is much lower than?
Kensai Dragon DUST University Ivy League 9	Posted - 2014.10.09 19:25:00 - [8] - Quote From a physics standpoint, you have larger servos using greater energy to move the greater mass at an equal rate.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 4529	Posted - 2014.10.09 19:33:00 - [9] - Quote maluble wrote: This is not a complaint but an observation. Why do heavys get to turn as fast as my scout? They are the largest frame stacking alot of hp and wielding a massive weapon. Now im no genius but wouldnt that impede them from turning around fast like they do? Also how can a hmg shoot over an obstacle that the weapon is 3 feet lower than? Makes 0 sence to see the hmg is well under a railing for example yet he just shoots right through it. All im asking in exchange is that I can stab people with my kn through walls. The Heavy Suit may have the same turn speed of other suitsGÇª But: HMG slows turn speed a lot more than any light weapon. Shotgun slows turn speed more than any other light weapon, but not as much as the HMG does. (Are you a Shotgun Scout?) Shotgun Scouts can still move and strafe much faster than a Heavy suit. As for shooting over stuff from waist height, yeah that does not make sense. I should have to Aim Down Sights on the HMG to fire over railing. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 983	Posted - 2014.10.09 20:26:00 - [10] - Quote maluble wrote: This is not a complaint but an observation. Why do heavys get to turn as fast as my scout? They are the largest frame stacking alot of hp and wielding a massive weapon. Now im no genius but wouldnt that impede them from turning around fast like they do? Also how can a hmg shoot over an obstacle that the weapon is 3 feet lower than? Makes 0 sence to see the hmg is well under a railing for example yet he just shoots right through it. All im asking in exchange is that I can stab people with my kn through walls. because heavys cannot jump over knee high obstacles :P [[LogiBro in Training]] Level 2 Forum Pariah

Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1664	Posted - 2014.10.09 20:34:00 - [11] - Quote Because if they couldn't turn that fast, there would be even less of a counter to the scout tactic of cloak/shotgun/knives/RE. Anyone wanna bet what OP uses?
Bax Zanith Sinfonia1898 200	Posted - 2014.10.10 00:58:00 - [12] - Quote maluble wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Heavies can turn fast because we were force-fed this "HEAVIES ARE CQC AND POINT DEFENSE ONLY" bullcrap. Then it became glaringly obvious that they failed utterly in the role of CQC monster because all any other suit had to do to win against a heavy was run lazily in a circle while ADSing and shoot the fatty in the side of the head. It was a balance issue because heavies weren't allowed to have enough range to be a credible threat against fast moving targets, so for a while the fatsuits enjoyed the role of "professional victim" And thus all turn speeds were normalized so you cannot render a CQC suit helpless by strafing at 10m. I get what your saying but still doesnt make sence from a physics standpoint. Also how do explain shooting over something that your gun is much lower than? It would make sense from a physics standpoint, but it didn't make sense from a game mechanic standpoint. Giving different frame sizes their own turn speed sounds like a cool idea and all, but ultimately it was a bad game mechanic. And about that shooting through stuff thing. From your perspective my HMG is clipping through the railing, but from my perspective I'm holding it over the railing. It seems like the HMG technically fires at the same hight as any other gun. And have you ever took a HMG and walked right in front of an AFK player? They didn't die from the cold without They died from the cold within. - James Patrick Kinney
Atiim 12848	Posted - 2014.10.10 03:22:00 - [13] - Quote If they didn't, they'd be a joke because in CQC all you'd have to do is keep moving around them and you'll never get hit no matter what they do, and any Sentinel with a Light Weapon easily falls to a Commando or Assault suit. Source: Uprising 1.0 - Uprising 1.3; Hotfix Charlie The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
X7 lion Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 315	Posted - 2014.10.10 03:29:00 - [14] - Quote kincats affecting aiming speed, trolololol. Do not contribute to malice what can be explained by ignorance. being contradictory is not the same as being offensive.
Bri Bub Eternal Beings Dark Taboo 35	Posted - 2014.10.10 03:47:00 - [15] - Quote I can't speak for anyone else but I am a pretty ballerina that wears pointe shoes with my heavy fits... Now wrap you head around this: http://imgur.com/5cerM9W Be just and if you can't be just be arbitrary.
Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 409	Posted - 2014.10.10 03:54:00 - [16] - Quote Counter question: why can caldari scout survive heavy fire like a heavy? Bright is the opposite of dark! Who would have thought of that?!


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