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Reem50
RisingSuns Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.10.07 13:31:00 -
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Since you're not willing to give us a respec, can you please make it available in the psn store at a reasonable price? So far the past updates has made everybody skill sheets a little weird im sure of it. I have nearly over 2 million skill points that are in places i dont use in 2 different clones and I'm probably not the only one. Im sure a lot of people will love this add to the psn store |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
3433
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Posted - 2014.10.07 14:01:00 -
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There needs to be a major client side patch for this to ever be a thing.
The reason they don't try something like that beyond the usual ranting about no respecs is it's not hard-coded and automated. It has to be manually overseen and then they have to deal with the migraine-inducing losses of SP, failures ro respec, etc.
Right now archduke would pretty much have to manually refund all your crap line by line because it was never intended to be a frequent feature.
Would CCP make asstons of money from it? Absolutely. Is it set up as a viable thing that can be automated? Not even slightly. |
Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2014.10.07 14:39:00 -
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Quote:For only $10/month, the Dust 514 "FotM Season Pass" will transfer your hard-earned SP automatically. While it isn't technically a respec, it does keep you ahead of the curve and always invested in whatever gear is trending.
Want more options?
For only $5 more per month, the "FotM Season Pass Gold" will give you a choice before reallocating your skillpoints. Choose between hardest spammed items and second-hardest spammed items. The Gold Pass applies to every item category, offering FotM chasers the highest degree of flexibility and freedom.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2014.10.08 10:53:00 -
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Respec thread number #1078.
People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1937
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Posted - 2014.10.08 15:28:00 -
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Reem50 wrote:Since you're not willing to give us a respec, can you please make it available in the psn store at a reasonable price? So far the past updates has made everybody skill sheets a little weird im sure of it. I have nearly over 2 million skill points that are in places i dont use in 2 different clones and I'm probably not the only one. Im sure a lot of people will love this add to the psn store
No, even your "wasted skill points" will become assets at some point.
Now with more evil.
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
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Posted - 2014.10.08 16:46:00 -
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No, make choices, stick with them, plan future skill point expenditures accordingly.
The level of patience you possess is not the fault of any but yourself.
The Universe is hostile, so impersonal
Devour to survive
So it is, so it's always been....
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game RUST415
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Posted - 2014.10.08 17:24:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:Respec thread number #1078.
I hope you are creating a log of these, combine them and hit CCP with the biggest respec thread EVAR!!!!
Innapropriate Irrelevence...
Welcome to the Dust Forum, hang around to see why everyone else left :/
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Atiim
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Posted - 2014.10.08 18:13:00 -
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I'm extremely opposed to having respecs become available for purchase.
DUST 514 is one of the few F2P games on the market that aren't P2W as well, considering how the development of this game is very limited that's one of the few advantages that it has, lets not remove that.
The 1st Matari Commando
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.10.08 18:27:00 -
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Atiim wrote:I'm extremely opposed to having respecs become available for purchase.
DUST 514 is one of the few F2P games on the market that aren't P2W as well, considering how the development of this game is very limited that's one of the few advantages that it has, lets not remove that.
Considering DUST sells boosters, which grant you additional skill points for money, if you associate skill points with winning, DUST is already pay to win. A paid respec, would not be providing additional SP, and would, at least in my mind, be less pay to win. Particularly if there was some sort of penalty to using it.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.08 18:35:00 -
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My issue with this would be that allmost every 1 would hop onto the next FOTM once the old one has beeing nerfed/fixed. But on the other hand this wouldnt matter anymore at the stage of the game which we have now.
Maybe like 4,99Gé¼ for a reallocation of SP? You are not getting more SP but decide to get rid off the useless stuff you have. In my case i would get rid off the Logistic, ADS and gal. logi cause i dont really use that stuff anymore.
Bright is the opposite of dark! Who would have thought of that?!
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Vell0cet
Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.10.08 19:02:00 -
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If you sacrificed 20% of your total SP, then maybe. Otherwise, hell no. It will be FotM 514. Having a diverse player base makes the game interesting.
Best PvE idea ever!
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.10.08 19:30:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Atiim wrote:I'm extremely opposed to having respecs become available for purchase.
DUST 514 is one of the few F2P games on the market that aren't P2W as well, considering how the development of this game is very limited that's one of the few advantages that it has, lets not remove that. Considering DUST sells boosters, which grant you additional skill points for money, if you associate skill points with winning, DUST is already pay to win. A paid respec, would not be providing additional SP, and would, at least in my mind, be less pay to win. Particularly if there was some sort of penalty to using it.
Let's be honest, anyone who has played Dust for anywhere longer than a year will know for sure that SP never equals win.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kyoudai Furinkazan
1242
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Posted - 2014.10.08 20:55:00 -
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Can anyone tell me what's FOTM at the moment ???
Please don't use BP's as a answer because most of you know that CCP is working on the gun itself .
I don't understand why it can't be sold like the pack that CCP sells that one can only buy one of .
If they sell a refund , then only allow one and that's all and give the timer a three day time rate and allow the refund in three days instead of one so that the people who have to do so , are allowed a reasonable time rate to apply the reset of SP's .
This is just not that hard of a thing to get done .
There is no more FOTM so please people , stop using that as an excuse ... come with something better and new .
Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kyoudai Furinkazan
1242
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Posted - 2014.10.08 20:58:00 -
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Vell0cet wrote:If you sacrificed 20% of your total SP, then maybe. Otherwise, hell no. It will be FotM 514. Having a diverse player base makes the game interesting. Why 20% if you already paying ???
That's just not a good business decision and players are asking for this but all I see are the same players spamming any refund threads , trying to rain on someone's attempt .
Check the threads , it's always the same people .
We get it already , your against SP refunds .
Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
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Posted - 2014.10.08 21:03:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Vell0cet wrote:If you sacrificed 20% of your total SP, then maybe. Otherwise, hell no. It will be FotM 514. Having a diverse player base makes the game interesting. Why 20% if you already paying ??? That's just not a good business decision and players are asking for this but all I see are the same players spamming any refund threads , trying to rain on someone's attempt . Check the threads , it's always the same people . We get it already , your against SP refunds . *You're
If you check those threads, you'll find that there are always the same people whining that they need a respec. Engage your patience and save your breath, I'd imagine that in the time that has passed between the first respec thread you posted in and now, you've accumulated enough SP to spend on nearly anything you could want.
The Universe is hostile, so impersonal
Devour to survive
So it is, so it's always been....
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kyoudai Furinkazan
1242
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Posted - 2014.10.08 21:16:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Vell0cet wrote:If you sacrificed 20% of your total SP, then maybe. Otherwise, hell no. It will be FotM 514. Having a diverse player base makes the game interesting. Why 20% if you already paying ??? That's just not a good business decision and players are asking for this but all I see are the same players spamming any refund threads , trying to rain on someone's attempt . Check the threads , it's always the same people . We get it already , your against SP refunds . *You're If you check those threads, you'll find that there are always the same people whining that they need a respec. Engage your patience and save your breath, I'd imagine that in the time that has passed between the first respec thread you posted in and now, you've accumulated enough SP to spend on nearly anything you could want. Says you .
I'm not going to waste my breath debating with you , if as a business ... you have consumers who are asking for an option which one can make money from , then it's in that business best interest to get the revenue .
It's just that simple .
You opinion will not stop people from asking such if you post on every single refund thread , they will still come ... now it's on CCP if they will listen and take advantage or not ... really you personally have no say so in the direction that they choose to take .
I don't waste my breath on people who have no weight .
Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
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Posted - 2014.10.08 21:27:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Vell0cet wrote:If you sacrificed 20% of your total SP, then maybe. Otherwise, hell no. It will be FotM 514. Having a diverse player base makes the game interesting. Why 20% if you already paying ??? That's just not a good business decision and players are asking for this but all I see are the same players spamming any refund threads , trying to rain on someone's attempt . Check the threads , it's always the same people . We get it already , your against SP refunds . *You're If you check those threads, you'll find that there are always the same people whining that they need a respec. Engage your patience and save your breath, I'd imagine that in the time that has passed between the first respec thread you posted in and now, you've accumulated enough SP to spend on nearly anything you could want. Says you . I'm not going to waste my breath debating with you , if as a business ... you have consumers who are asking for an option which one can make money from , then it's in that business best interest to get the revenue . It's just that simple . You opinion will not stop people from asking such if you post on every single refund thread , they will still come ... now it's on CCP if they will listen and take advantage or not ... really you personally have no say so in the direction that they choose to take . I don't waste my breath on people who have no weight . Awww, how cute, you think you're better than me or anyone else here.
If as a business, you have paying consumers who are asking for an option to not be included, then it is in the best interest of the revenue stream to avoid the childish tantrums of the impatient.
So how much SP have you accumulated since the first respec thread you posted in?
The Universe is hostile, so impersonal
Devour to survive
So it is, so it's always been....
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kyoudai Furinkazan
1243
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Posted - 2014.10.08 21:32:00 -
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I see three of these topics just on the front page alone and countless one's in general so there is a demand for such , now CCP is missing out on extra money from sitting on their hands .
People who are always no , are in no way effected and just try to kill the fun for those who are attempting to enjoy the game ... the way they would like to and have a personal customizing feature , taken advantage of from the constant changing of the environment threw these hot-fixes and somewhat before .
You people will not be effected in the least and you cry about FOTM , when there's no more of that crap going on and the one's who are trying to block such a move have every single FOTM even known and the SP's to change multiple times over .
It's the one's who don't have the opportunity of being fortunate of doing so , who are asking for such ... now if CCP can make some money out of the situation , then it should be a win .. win but you people who use the same ole sorry @$$ excuses , need to stop **** blocking and let those who would like a SP refund , have one threw your support but most can see someone who doesn't care about their fun because it's these same people who are always in the way .
What are you gaining from this blocking ???
Oh right , nothing but negativity because that's what you feed on .
If it's not hurting you and won't change your approach , they why the hell are you always in the fracking way ????
Some of these people just would like to enjoy the game , I guess like the blockers are but maybe that's why they are always in the way .
They don't want that .
They would be quick to give the same tired @$$ spheel about the same tired @$$ excuses as to why this shouldn't happen .
CCP you see people asking for this and even willing to pay , now what are you waiting for ???
Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.10.08 21:54:00 -
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Shinobi, the number of topics are irrelevant when the topics are people posting as their alts. The other thread you just responded to had the word for word same text as this thread. ;)
The biggest issue with a paid respec token is that it would be impossible to implement in a hotfix. I am actually in support of a paid respec option, with an appropriate usage penalty.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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Vell0cet
Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo
2346
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Posted - 2014.10.08 21:55:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Vell0cet wrote:If you sacrificed 20% of your total SP, then maybe. Otherwise, hell no. It will be FotM 514. Having a diverse player base makes the game interesting. Why 20% if you already paying ??? That's just not a good business decision and players are asking for this but all I see are the same players spamming any refund threads , trying to rain on someone's attempt . Check the threads , it's always the same people . We get it already , your against SP refunds . *You're If you check those threads, you'll find that there are always the same people whining that they need a respec. Engage your patience and save your breath, I'd imagine that in the time that has passed between the first respec thread you posted in and now, you've accumulated enough SP to spend on nearly anything you could want. Says you . I'm not going to waste my breath debating with you , if as a business ... you have consumers who are asking for an option which one can make money from , then it's in that business best interest to get the revenue . It's just that simple . You opinion will not stop people from asking such if you post on every single refund thread , they will still come ... now it's on CCP if they will listen and take advantage or not ... really you personally have no say so in the direction that they choose to take . I don't waste my breath on people who have no weight . Yes it's a business, but they can make a hell of a lot more money by selling boosters. If they had cheap respecs with no significant downside then booster sales will shrivel up. This does affect everyone because there will always be a FotM fit and with cheap respecs tons of people will simply skill into whatever is out-of-balance: burst HMG in Charlie, bolt pistol in Delta, etc. Instead of people committing to their character, they can constantly shift roles. The idea is sh*t. It always has been.
I could see it with a major drawback like a 15-20% loss of SP, which would allow new players to change directions and compensate for bad choices, while punishing impatient FotM chasers.
Best PvE idea ever!
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