DUST Search - Proto-stomping

Heimdallr69 wrote:

Bradric Banewolf wrote:

Orphan Shadow wrote:

I don't begrudge anyone rolling in their pro gear whenever they want. The only counter is teamwork, and that is why most organized corps running pub matches un-opposed results in a "stomp". Notice I said most, because yesterday myself and and a bunch of no-mic randoms obliterated two q-synced squads of Shaking Babies in a Faction a Warfare battle. I hate to call them out, but their absolutely terrible corp name demands it. Twisted

They lack versatility, and depending on the map they can be defeated more by the map than the players.

Your environment is your best friend, then your squad, and then your tactics.

No one's blind at what alot of players in this game are willing to do to win. Some of us just say "meh no worries". Not gonna go to those lengths to pad k/d when I really just wanna play the game, and talk with the guys. Am I competitive? Sure Who Isn't who plays this game. Will I use auto-trigger? No, because I have other stuff to spend my funds on. Will I ddos the server, try to hack in any way, or quit matches until I find what looks like unorganized teams? No, bro you doing way too much for a video game lol!

I play, I'm decent, my d**k isn't small, and I have a life lol! This is a past time. The game is extraordinary, and could go far. It can also end up like mag, and shutdown entirely due to players who can't take an "L"?!

One player, or six, shouldn't stop a whole 16 from doing well in a battle. Does it happen? Sure does. Why? Because alot of players realize that they don't lose funds fighting from the redline. Alot of players know when that RS-90 hit them like a six kin pre delta burst hmg, and they say "nope that guys got a k/d complex". Alot of players like a fair fight that's tough, but find themselves out numbered when the other 10 back off due to proto players camping uplinks and such?! If the whole 16 continued to fight could they win? Sure. Would they gain isk? No.

We've faced full proto teams in proto gear. You can win, but it'll be next week before you can do it again lol! It's especially annoying when you "go proto" just to be killed by broken mechanics?! That's a real waste of isk?!

My d!ck is small and I have a life. I don't even dust anymore

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xavier zor G.L.O.R.Y Dark Taboo 55	Posted - 2014.10.06 11:24:00 - [1] - Quote Yes, alot of people do it...proto stomp. I show no respect for them as anyone can proto stomp anything! Standard stomping takes true skill....i'd respect corps like nyain san alot more if they could stomp in standard gear. I have tried standard-stomping and it is HARD but hey...what prototype scout wielding a boundless combat rifle wants to know they have been killed by a breach SMG?? scout ck.0 here!
Unlucky Fluke The Rainbow Effect 26	Posted - 2014.10.06 11:35:00 - [2] - Quote So, this guy didn't get the memo? RIP KB! 100 K kills, you made it after all. MAG was better!
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 967	Posted - 2014.10.06 11:37:00 - [3] - Quote xavier zor wrote: Yes, alot of people do it...proto stomp. I show no respect for them as anyone can proto stomp anything! Standard stomping takes true skill....i'd respect corps like nyain san alot more if they could stomp in standard gear. I have tried standard-stomping and it is HARD but hey...what prototype scout wielding a boundless combat rifle wants to know they have been killed by a breach SMG?? i hate proto stompers as much as the next guy.. maybe even more so but we have to address the issue at hand they proto stomp because 1, FW matches are soo infrequant and 2 they only get to PC once a day.. if things were changed to allow them more FW matches and more frequant PC matches.. maybe every 3 to 6 hours instead of once every 23 hours for 15 minutes that may appease them a litle more ps. im mainly a standard-bear cause im always soo isk poor cause being a logi is expencive, but i still manage to keep 2x uplinks up and run proto dual beam reps [[LogiBro in Training]] Level 2 Forum Pariah
Atiim 12777	Posted - 2014.10.06 11:39:00 - [4] - Quote No, it's not difficult. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Buwaro Draemon WarRavens Capital Punishment. 374	Posted - 2014.10.06 12:28:00 - [5] - Quote I almost always use my STD Gallente Assault with my Exile and Toxin. All modules are STD except for the Damage mods. I can go 20/3 or 30/6 in that suit. I only ever use my Federation Gallente GK.0 when I go to FW and want the Federation to win. Been here since Mordus Private Trials Closed Beta Vet under 30 million SP ;-;
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1662	Posted - 2014.10.06 12:37:00 - [6] - Quote xavier zor wrote: Yes, alot of people do it...proto stomp. I show no respect for them as anyone can proto stomp anything! Standard stomping takes true skill....i'd respect corps like nyain san alot more if they could stomp in standard gear. I have tried standard-stomping and it is HARD but hey...what prototype scout wielding a boundless combat rifle wants to know they have been killed by a breach SMG?? comeing from a member of Glory who trys to proto stomp all the time in pubs then fails to get there proto gear out there redline in PC. man makes his suit better not suit makes the man better. KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer
Vell0cet Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 2340	Posted - 2014.10.06 14:13:00 - [7] - Quote The best way to address protostomping is to include ISK efficiency as the primary stat over K/D. ISK destroyed (or ISK equivalent for AUR/BPO stuff) - ISK lost (or ISK equivalent) quantity divided by total number of deaths. That should be the gold-standard for bragging rights, K/D should be a footnote in comparison. Best PvE idea ever!
ACT1ON BASTARD Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 207	Posted - 2014.10.06 18:08:00 - [8] - Quote I spent all this time trying to earn proto and im not gonna use it, sure.
Sequal Rise Les Desanusseurs 92	Posted - 2014.10.06 18:15:00 - [9] - Quote I've been playing Dust for so long, I grinded like crazy to get those suits and weapons, who are you to tell me not to use my proto suits? You want to counter them? Play proto. Sorry for my bad english ^^
REDBACK96USMC Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 79	Posted - 2014.10.06 18:30:00 - [10] - Quote I've had some damned near 1 mil payouts going against "Proto Stompers" I don't have the best gun game in the world. Quit Whining and figure something new out. Like "They are going to stomp, so lets fortify this position and let them come to kill us. 2xHMG 1xLogi, all basic with Lots of flux and locus the bodies." or "Get them coming down this roadway to get us and lay out the AOE with supporting range fire." Hubris can be a weakness too. Will you win? Probably not, but damn if they aren't going to go down with me!

Heimdallr69 Nyain San General Tso's Alliance 3765	Posted - 2014.10.06 18:32:00 - [11] - Quote It's just as easy.. But if your team has proto why can't i? Didn't realize that NS still got under peoples skins when 90% of our players don't play anymore. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
valad II NoGameNoLife 240	Posted - 2014.10.06 18:45:00 - [12] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: It's just as easy.. But if your team has proto why can't i? Didn't realize that NS still got under peoples skins when 90% of our players don't play anymore. It was all the proto gear that made Nyain San Good. It wasn't the hours and hours spent playing together, or communication, or the FC barking orders in Japanese which was hilarious to listen to (cuz I am dum merrican.) But they were very efficient together. Nyain San will always be hated no matter what is done. They will carry that like a badge of honor refueling on tears of bitchez. If I saw Nyain San in ambush, I went to domination. Cuz Fuk that= broken controllers
Yeeeuuuupppp Vengeance Unbound 641	Posted - 2014.10.06 20:42:00 - [13] - Quote I have proto...... I'm going to use proto. I didn't put about 6 million+ sp into a proto suit and complex modules to use basic "Removed for hurting my feelings" - CCP PSN: GMANCASH Rage Proficiency V
Orphan Shadow Waiting For Deployment 181	Posted - 2014.10.06 21:10:00 - [14] - Quote I don't begrudge anyone rolling in their pro gear whenever they want. The only counter is teamwork, and that is why most organized corps running pub matches un-opposed results in a "stomp". Notice I said most, because yesterday myself and and a bunch of no-mic randoms obliterated two q-synced squads of Shaking Babies in a Faction a Warfare battle. I hate to call them out, but their absolutely terrible corp name demands it.
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Pure Evil. Capital Punishment. 1992	Posted - 2014.10.06 21:22:00 - [15] - Quote Its whats in the suit that makes you good. I use proto usually for the amount of ridiculous fits i can come up with, then make a standard variant. Like a proto weapon, get SS, RR, ammo, and proficiency, the only reason to run proto is to look awesome and if you can afford it. Sides, what kind of player are you to give up at the slightest hint of a challenge? A spoiled one who blames everyone else for thier problems and never gets better. If you'd stop getting frustrated, like i do, you can counter them. PSN Sil4ntChaozz Matari in Dust & Out ASD artist, Skater, Amatuer Parkour Practitioner Mk.0, Gk.0, & 'Sever' Scout
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD 373	Posted - 2014.10.06 21:33:00 - [16] - Quote Orphan Shadow wrote: I don't begrudge anyone rolling in their pro gear whenever they want. The only counter is teamwork, and that is why most organized corps running pub matches un-opposed results in a "stomp". Notice I said most, because yesterday myself and and a bunch of no-mic randoms obliterated two q-synced squads of Shaking Babies in a Faction a Warfare battle. I hate to call them out, but their absolutely terrible corp name demands it. They lack versatility, and depending on the map they can be defeated more by the map than the players. Your environment is your best friend, then your squad, and then your tactics. No one's blind at what alot of players in this game are willing to do to win. Some of us just say "meh no worries". Not gonna go to those lengths to pad k/d when I really just wanna play the game, and talk with the guys. Am I competitive? Sure Who Isn't who plays this game. Will I use auto-trigger? No, because I have other stuff to spend my funds on. Will I ddos the server, try to hack in any way, or quit matches until I find what looks like unorganized teams? No, bro you doing way too much for a video game lol! I play, I'm decent, my d**k isn't small, and I have a life lol! This is a past time. The game is extraordinary, and could go far. It can also end up like mag, and shutdown entirely due to players who can't take an "L"?! One player, or six, shouldn't stop a whole 16 from doing well in a battle. Does it happen? Sure does. Why? Because alot of players realize that they don't lose funds fighting from the redline. Alot of players know when that RS-90 hit them like a six kin pre delta burst hmg, and they say "nope that guys got a k/d complex". Alot of players like a fair fight that's tough, but find themselves out numbered when the other 10 back off due to proto players camping uplinks and such?! If the whole 16 continued to fight could they win? Sure. Would they gain isk? No. We've faced full proto teams in proto gear. You can win, but it'll be next week before you can do it again lol! It's especially annoying when you "go proto" just to be killed by broken mechanics?! That's a real waste of isk?! "Anybody order chaos?"
Prinny Waters Immortal Guides 5	Posted - 2014.10.06 21:48:00 - [17] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: The best way to address protostomping is to include ISK efficiency as the primary stat over K/D. ISK destroyed (or ISK equivalent for AUR/BPO stuff) - ISK lost (or ISK equivalent) quantity divided by total number of deaths. That should be the gold-standard for bragging rights, K/D should be a footnote in comparison. Good sentiment, needs to show love for Logi and AV who manage to keep tanks running for cover. Be kinda sad otherwise, y'know?
Sequal Rise Les Desanusseurs 93	Posted - 2014.10.06 22:11:00 - [18] - Quote Just did 22/5 and then 27/3 in basic Assault M-1 with basic Rail rifle in a 50 kills ambush. Proto isn't even needed to stomp nowadays.. Sorry for my bad english ^^
Heimdallr69 Nyain San General Tso's Alliance 3768	Posted - 2014.10.06 22:35:00 - [19] - Quote Bradric Banewolf wrote: Orphan Shadow wrote: I don't begrudge anyone rolling in their pro gear whenever they want. The only counter is teamwork, and that is why most organized corps running pub matches un-opposed results in a "stomp". Notice I said most, because yesterday myself and and a bunch of no-mic randoms obliterated two q-synced squads of Shaking Babies in a Faction a Warfare battle. I hate to call them out, but their absolutely terrible corp name demands it. They lack versatility, and depending on the map they can be defeated more by the map than the players. Your environment is your best friend, then your squad, and then your tactics. No one's blind at what alot of players in this game are willing to do to win. Some of us just say "meh no worries". Not gonna go to those lengths to pad k/d when I really just wanna play the game, and talk with the guys. Am I competitive? Sure Who Isn't who plays this game. Will I use auto-trigger? No, because I have other stuff to spend my funds on. Will I ddos the server, try to hack in any way, or quit matches until I find what looks like unorganized teams? No, bro you doing way too much for a video game lol! I play, I'm decent, my d**k isn't small, and I have a life lol! This is a past time. The game is extraordinary, and could go far. It can also end up like mag, and shutdown entirely due to players who can't take an "L"?! One player, or six, shouldn't stop a whole 16 from doing well in a battle. Does it happen? Sure does. Why? Because alot of players realize that they don't lose funds fighting from the redline. Alot of players know when that RS-90 hit them like a six kin pre delta burst hmg, and they say "nope that guys got a k/d complex". Alot of players like a fair fight that's tough, but find themselves out numbered when the other 10 back off due to proto players camping uplinks and such?! If the whole 16 continued to fight could they win? Sure. Would they gain isk? No. We've faced full proto teams in proto gear. You can win, but it'll be next week before you can do it again lol! It's especially annoying when you "go proto" just to be killed by broken mechanics?! That's a real waste of isk?! My d!ck is small and I have a life. I don't even dust anymore Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD 374	Posted - 2014.10.06 22:41:00 - [20] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Bradric Banewolf wrote: Orphan Shadow wrote: I don't begrudge anyone rolling in their pro gear whenever they want. The only counter is teamwork, and that is why most organized corps running pub matches un-opposed results in a "stomp". Notice I said most, because yesterday myself and and a bunch of no-mic randoms obliterated two q-synced squads of Shaking Babies in a Faction a Warfare battle. I hate to call them out, but their absolutely terrible corp name demands it. They lack versatility, and depending on the map they can be defeated more by the map than the players. Your environment is your best friend, then your squad, and then your tactics. No one's blind at what alot of players in this game are willing to do to win. Some of us just say "meh no worries". Not gonna go to those lengths to pad k/d when I really just wanna play the game, and talk with the guys. Am I competitive? Sure Who Isn't who plays this game. Will I use auto-trigger? No, because I have other stuff to spend my funds on. Will I ddos the server, try to hack in any way, or quit matches until I find what looks like unorganized teams? No, bro you doing way too much for a video game lol! I play, I'm decent, my d**k isn't small, and I have a life lol! This is a past time. The game is extraordinary, and could go far. It can also end up like mag, and shutdown entirely due to players who can't take an "L"?! One player, or six, shouldn't stop a whole 16 from doing well in a battle. Does it happen? Sure does. Why? Because alot of players realize that they don't lose funds fighting from the redline. Alot of players know when that RS-90 hit them like a six kin pre delta burst hmg, and they say "nope that guys got a k/d complex". Alot of players like a fair fight that's tough, but find themselves out numbered when the other 10 back off due to proto players camping uplinks and such?! If the whole 16 continued to fight could they win? Sure. Would they gain isk? No. We've faced full proto teams in proto gear. You can win, but it'll be next week before you can do it again lol! It's especially annoying when you "go proto" just to be killed by broken mechanics?! That's a real waste of isk?! My d!ck is small and I have a life. I don't even dust anymore They make stuff for that nowadays bro. You don't have to be alone lol! "Anybody order chaos?"

hold that Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 281	Posted - 2014.10.06 22:46:00 - [21] - Quote Proto all day everyday, i still don't understand the argument against it. If you choose not to do it because of the challenge then you shouldn't complain. A logi missing 2 equiptment slots is not challenging, it's gimp on purpose and fuking up the team.
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD 374	Posted - 2014.10.06 22:47:00 - [22] - Quote Running series is sufficient in most cases I think. If a guy in proto wipes me out I don't sweat it. If I wipe him out he needs to check his strategy. I'm primarily a support role player with assault tendencies. Not a slayer by no means, but that's all perception. If we talking about slaying tanks and dropships then I'm your merc! "Anybody order chaos?"
Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game RUST415 498	Posted - 2014.10.06 22:50:00 - [23] - Quote I only just specced into my first proto suit (~~don't have all the core skills I want~~ people would laugh if they saw my core skill lvls for using a proto suit) but I actually do a lot better with standard gear, because I don't worry about saving my investment... Plus a scout with ~~shotgun~~ bolt pistol will down any suit just as easily. If pubs were the main farming area for isk and PC's didn't give out as much money, we'd all get a lot less one sided matches as everyone could run their best stuff (for at least the start of the match.)
y678iop Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 42	Posted - 2014.10.06 23:00:00 - [24] - Quote Atiim wrote: No, it's not difficult. Sure it is if you are facing coordinated squads of adv and proto. Try it. Make a video. Show me the link. This is an alt. It is here to be banned, so that I may be outrageous and speak the TRUTH.
Aria Gomes Wirykomi Wolf Pack 565	Posted - 2014.10.06 23:03:00 - [25] - Quote As a Min Scout there is no such as proto stomping :P Personally.
y678iop Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 42	Posted - 2014.10.06 23:05:00 - [26] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: It's just as easy.. But if your team has proto why can't i? Didn't realize that NS still got under peoples skins when 90% of our players don't play anymore. I seen you sucking the other day, you said your kid was playing. Lmfao @ Nyain scrubs. This is an alt. It is here to be banned, so that I may be outrageous and speak the TRUTH.
Heimdallr69 Nyain San General Tso's Alliance 3768	Posted - 2014.10.06 23:13:00 - [27] - Quote y678iop wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: It's just as easy.. But if your team has proto why can't i? Didn't realize that NS still got under peoples skins when 90% of our players don't play anymore. I seen you sucking the other day, you said your kid was playing. Lmfao @ Nyain scrubs. Your a moron show the msg dumb ass. One I don't have a kid I'm 20. Two it's best if I don't have a kid with the girl I'm with. Keep talking ** ***. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Vell0cet Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 2344	Posted - 2014.10.06 23:39:00 - [28] - Quote Prinny Waters wrote: Vell0cet wrote: The best way to address protostomping is to include ISK efficiency as the primary stat over K/D. ISK destroyed (or ISK equivalent for AUR/BPO stuff) - ISK lost (or ISK equivalent) quantity divided by total number of deaths. That should be the gold-standard for bragging rights, K/D should be a footnote in comparison. Good sentiment, needs to show love for Logi and AV who manage to keep tanks running for cover. Be kinda sad otherwise, y'know? Well for logi, you could include the value of "Guardian kills." And AV are blowing up big ticket stuff, so that should help their numbers, even if they don't get as many kills. Best PvE idea ever!
2Berries Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 336	Posted - 2014.10.06 23:51:00 - [29] - Quote It's been so long since i've seen this on the forums, i just got to throw it out there: Welcome to New Eden. Get good, scrub. Protostomping is a term used by those who don't have the skill to do anything about it. You'll figure it out...someday. Have you considered a career in costumed aggression?
xavier zor G.L.O.R.Y Dark Taboo 55	Posted - 2014.10.07 00:48:00 - [30] - Quote CUSE TOWN333 wrote: xavier zor wrote: Yes, alot of people do it...proto stomp. I show no respect for them as anyone can proto stomp anything! Standard stomping takes true skill....i'd respect corps like nyain san alot more if they could stomp in standard gear. I have tried standard-stomping and it is HARD but hey...what prototype scout wielding a boundless combat rifle wants to know they have been killed by a breach SMG?? comeing from a member of Glory who trys to proto stomp all the time in pubs then fails to get there proto gear out there redline in PC. man makes his suit better not suit makes the man better. Dude, i have never been redlined running proto in a PC match... And jesus ***** christ, i am not complaining about proto gear. I couldnt give a ** what you scrubs who are telling me to quit whining run, just stomping with it is not impressive But doing it in standard gear is scout ck.0 here!

xavier zor G.L.O.R.Y Dark Taboo 55	Posted - 2014.10.07 00:51:00 - [31] - Quote Derpty Derp wrote: I only just specced into my first proto suit (~~don't have all the core skills I want~~ people would laugh if they saw my core skill lvls for using a proto suit) but I actually do a lot better with standard gear, because I don't worry about saving my investment... Plus a scout with ~~shotgun~~ bolt pistol will down any suit just as easily. If pubs were the main farming area for isk and PC's didn't give out as much money, we'd all get a lot less one sided matches as everyone could run their best stuff (for at least the start of the match.) Congrats, my first proto suit was caldari assault scout ck.0 here!
TEBOW BAGGINS GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING 1263	Posted - 2014.10.07 00:52:00 - [32] - Quote pretty cool thread. AKA Zirzo Valcyn AFKing since 2012
Zindorak G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1042	Posted - 2014.10.07 01:20:00 - [33] - Quote Another one of these? Pokemon master and Tekken Lord Gk0 Scout yay :)
Mex-0 G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 72	Posted - 2014.10.07 01:22:00 - [34] - Quote There's a mysterious class of gear called advanced. I'm pretty sure most people can run it. Dedicated Scout and Nova Knifer.
TEBOW BAGGINS GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING 1265	Posted - 2014.10.07 01:29:00 - [35] - Quote i never proto when i academy alt. AKA Zirzo Valcyn AFKing since 2012
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD 374	Posted - 2014.10.07 02:07:00 - [36] - Quote Mex-0 wrote: There's a mysterious class of gear called advanced. I'm pretty sure most people can run it. They do tend to forget that standard and advanced gear runs better once you finish skills off. You don't absolutely have to run proto if you max passive skills and have skills as a player. If you can't do the same thing in advanced gear that you did in proto, you're not impressing anyone?! Anyone can troll a noob in proto gear?! "Anybody order chaos?"
Kaughst Nyain San General Tso's Alliance 621	Posted - 2014.10.07 02:38:00 - [37] - Quote You are about 6 months late to be bitching about NS or anyone else for that matter I hope for you any semblance of consciousness doesn't transfer over to Legion. Heimdallr69 wrote: y678iop wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: It's just as easy.. But if your team has proto why can't i? Didn't realize that NS still got under peoples skins when 90% of our players don't play anymore. I seen you sucking the other day, you said your kid was playing. Lmfao @ Nyain scrubs. Your a moron show the msg dumb ass. One I don't have a kid I'm 20. Two it's best if I don't have a kid with the girl I'm with. Keep talking ** **. I love you Heimy....more than you know. You know you have at least thought* about cow tipping. They know, and they're out to settle the score.


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