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Zindorak
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.10.04 18:14:00 -
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The IoP and the BP are pretty good in delta especially the BP. But What about the Magsec. I feel this weapon needs a slight buff in echo not to much like how the BP got buffed. It just doesn't kill things as effectivley as an SMG, BP or IoP
Pokemon master!
Death to all Swarm scrubs
CCP please buff AScR and normal AR :(
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
3390
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Posted - 2014.10.04 18:35:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:The IoP and the BP are pretty good in delta especially the BP. But What about the Magsec. I feel this weapon needs a slight buff in echo not to much like how the BP got buffed. It just doesn't kill things as effectivley as an SMG, BP or IoP
try it again from 40m.
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Zindorak
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
1020
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Posted - 2014.10.04 18:52:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Zindorak wrote:The IoP and the BP are pretty good in delta especially the BP. But What about the Magsec. I feel this weapon needs a slight buff in echo not to much like how the BP got buffed. It just doesn't kill things as effectivley as an SMG, BP or IoP try it again from 40m. Ganking sentinels just outside their HMG optimal is nothing short of hilarity in action. lol ok i will try my Kaalakiota MagSec again at 40m
Pokemon master!
Death to all Swarm scrubs
CCP please buff AScR and normal AR :(
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
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Posted - 2014.10.04 18:59:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Zindorak wrote:The IoP and the BP are pretty good in delta especially the BP. But What about the Magsec. I feel this weapon needs a slight buff in echo not to much like how the BP got buffed. It just doesn't kill things as effectivley as an SMG, BP or IoP try it again from 40m. Ganking sentinels just outside their HMG optimal is nothing short of hilarity in action. lol ok i will try my Kaalakiota MagSec again at 40m magsec are not for the "ohshi.." tango moments up close.. they much prefer aim down sights too.. if you want hipfire go for SMG (normal or breach as assault blows now)
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Zindorak
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
1020
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Posted - 2014.10.04 19:00:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Zindorak wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Zindorak wrote:The IoP and the BP are pretty good in delta especially the BP. But What about the Magsec. I feel this weapon needs a slight buff in echo not to much like how the BP got buffed. It just doesn't kill things as effectivley as an SMG, BP or IoP try it again from 40m. Ganking sentinels just outside their HMG optimal is nothing short of hilarity in action. lol ok i will try my Kaalakiota MagSec again at 40m magsec are not for the "ohshi.." tango moments up close.. they much prefer aim down sights too.. if you want hipfire go for SMG (normal or breach as assault blows now) I use it kind of like an smg
Pokemon master!
Death to all Swarm scrubs
CCP please buff AScR and normal AR :(
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Crimson ShieId
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
1004
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Posted - 2014.10.04 21:53:00 -
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Talk to my ScP.
The Magsec actually seems to be in a really good place right now, though I'm sad about the recoil reduction. It gave the weapon a nice feel to it. A few more tweaks are definitely needed, but unless all the other sidearms (Minus the BP) get buffs, the weapon seems fine where it's at, even basic level handles relatively well with no damage mods.
On second thought, after glancing at the wiki page, it could use a slight range buff. Seems kinda low for a rail weapon, but not getting it won't break the gun.
Nova Knives are best sidearm.
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Zindorak
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
1024
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Posted - 2014.10.04 21:55:00 -
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Crimson ShieId wrote:Talk to my ScP. The Magsec actually seems to be in a really good place right now, though I'm sad about the recoil reduction. It gave the weapon a nice feel to it. A few more tweaks are definitely needed, but unless all the other sidearms (Minus the BP) get buffs, the weapon seems fine where it's at, even basic level handles relatively well with no damage mods. On second thought, after glancing at the wiki page, it could use a slight range buff. Seems kinda low for a rail weapon, but not getting it won't break the gun. I know the feels bro my ScP is crap compared to OP BP. The MagSec Kick is ARR bad
Pokemon master!
Death to all Swarm scrubs
CCP please buff AScR and normal AR :(
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
1877
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Posted - 2014.10.05 04:10:00 -
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Yea the magsec only really shines in a very specific close to midrange sort of area. It has too low dps, it doesn't have that great range and the kick is insane compared to any other weapon or sidearm. Using it compared to the SMG in the same scenarios, I feel the SMG is a lot better to use and the SMG can handle real close up fights much better too.
I would even argue that a lot of the pistols outshine the magsec too.
"Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones"
"Guns for show, Knives for a pro"
MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
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Alena Ventrallis
Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo
1877
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Posted - 2014.10.05 07:28:00 -
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Having used the magsec as compared to the SMG, I feel it doesn't hot hard enough. Rail tech should shoot slow (relatively) and hit hard.
Listen to my muscle memory
Contemplate what I've been clinging to
Forty-six and two ahead of me
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Henrietta Unknown
Nox Lupos
356
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Posted - 2014.10.08 06:09:00 -
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As a contender for the Officer Magsec, I'll throw some points up for discussion.
Does the Magsec need a range buff? Does it need a damage buff? Does it need a ROF buff? All three (in minimal amounts)?
It can be agreed on that the Minmatar SMG is far more versatile, effective, cheap in fitting, and a CQC weapon (where the majority of fights happen). It has better sights, kick control, and less giveaway signs (the bright-blue flashes of rail weapons are more noticeable).
Should the Magsec be just as effective as, if not more than, the SMG, in the hands of a skilled player? There should be some sort of reward for being able to master a weapon that has low reliability, versatility, range, and the highest fitting requirements of any similarly-tiered sidearm.
I'm only getting kills on a Caldari Scout, but having to fit DMG mods to even out just 1 v 1 situations. Low hP is not very compatible with a slow-firing/slow-killing weapon that gives even weakened opponents many chances to avoid. Another scout with his alpha weapon or a decent strafer totally kills the weapon. How can it compete against the Bolt Pistol? Ion Pistol? Sometimes even the Flaylock?
Please consider. I'm not hearing much about one of the two victims of Delta (the other being the ScP).
Give the Magsex some love.
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
1682
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Posted - 2014.10.08 09:53:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:The IoP and the BP are pretty good in delta especially the BP. But What about the Magsec. I feel this weapon needs a slight buff in echo not to much like how the BP got buffed. It just doesn't kill things as effectivley as an SMG, BP or IoP as a matter of fact it got nerfed in delta for some idiotic reason.
KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer
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Zindorak
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
1052
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Posted - 2014.10.08 11:49:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Zindorak wrote:The IoP and the BP are pretty good in delta especially the BP. But What about the Magsec. I feel this weapon needs a slight buff in echo not to much like how the BP got buffed. It just doesn't kill things as effectivley as an SMG, BP or IoP as a matter of fact it got nerfed in delta for some idiotic reason. IKR. Omg i just want it to a its somewhat difficult to get kills with it
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Gk0 Scout yay :)
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
1682
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Posted - 2014.10.08 13:48:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:Having used the magsec as compared to the SMG, I feel it doesn't hot hard enough. Rail tech should shoot slow (relatively) and hit hard. im hot hard right now just thinking about it.
KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer
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