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Fox Gaden
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Posted - 2014.10.01 15:51:00 -
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DAISY Renton wrote:Hi!
I've been playing this game for just a few days now, and i've got a small problem, i asked on the learning coalition place and someone was very kind and gave me some information, but i forgot some of what he said and i just wanted to check here... i'm really sorry if this isn't the sort of thing i should be posting here...
Basically, i had my money stolen. I went into the squad finder and saw a squad that said that he would double my ISK, and some other people said that he wasn't lying, so i gave him all my money. But, of course, he didn't give it back... I'm so stupid, i didn't realise he was tricking me!
All i wanted to ask was if this was against the rules, and if there was some way i can report him for this? I feel really bad too, because someone had given me a lot of ISK to help me get started, and i lost it all...
Thank you so much for reading <3
Welcome to New Eden.
Being smarter than the Scammers is part of the game. As a new player you may be more susceptible to scams, just as you are more susceptible to bullets until you get your skills trained up. As long as they are only dealing in in-game currency and assets the Scammers are not breaking the rules. Scamming is considered social-economic PVP.
Of course without player to player trading, or an open market, there is very little ability to participate in this aspect of the game, so scams are very simple and obvious, such as the one you experienced.
DonGÇÖt feel bad for falling for it. In many games this would be an illegal activity. Take this as a learning experience and be more cautious next time.
I have found that playing in a universe where such things are allowed makes the bonds you form with people that you come to trust that much more rewarding. When/if you get into Corp management, Corp security becomes a mini game of its own.
I have often said that Trust is the most valuable currency in New Eden.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Fox Gaden
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Posted - 2014.10.01 16:07:00 -
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Eruditus 920 wrote:OP is clearly someone's alt and this thread is an attempt to scam some ISK from dudes.
Uses a girl's name, new to game but had a lot of ISK scammed etc.
You are so gullible.
As a long time citizen of New Eden I had also considered this possibility. It becomes an automatic part of the risk assessment on every transaction.
A donation to this player can be considered either:
a)A donation to a new player in need of assistance.
b)A tip to show your appreciation for a Scam well-orchestrated.
If the amount of ISK you are considering donating is not an amount that you would consider excessive for either category, then it does not matter which possibility is correct. There is thus no risk to this transaction.
However, if the amount of ISK you intend to donate to this player is in excess of what you would consider appropriate to show your appreciation for a Scam well-orchestrated, then you are taking a risk in sending this player that sum of ISK, as it may turn out to be a Scam.
Only gamble with what you can afford to lose.
In the end though, it is only ISK.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Fox Gaden
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Posted - 2014.10.01 16:16:00 -
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Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:
I don't have any alts; too much hassle.
AND I ONLY SCAMMED THAT ONE TIME, JUST TO EXPERIENCE IT!!!
Honestly, I'm not an *******, I promise! I only did it as a one-off; it's not like I need the isk anyway! lol
And this is the other side of Scamming in New Eden. Once you do it, no one ever forgets!
It is a lot easier to build a bad reputation in New Eden than it is to build a good one, or to repair one once tainted.
This is not meant in any way as a slight against Dreis ShadowweaverGÇÖs character. His post was simply a good illustration of my point.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Fox Gaden
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Posted - 2014.10.01 16:55:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Assuming this post is for real, I have to tell you something.
This is perfectly legal in Dust 514, Eve Online, and extremely likely for Project Legion and Valkyrie. In other words, if it's a game developed by CCP, expect dirty deeds done dirt cheap.
I gave a "like" for the AC/DC reference.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Fox Gaden
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Posted - 2014.10.01 17:04:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:Eruditus 920 wrote:DAISY Renton wrote:Eruditus 920 wrote:OP is clearly someone's alt and this thread is an attempt to scam some ISK from dudes.
Uses a girl's name, new to game but had a lot of ISK scammed etc.
You are so gullible.
Do you mean that i'm asking for donations? Sorry if i didn't get across what i was asking very well... no, i'm not asking for donations, i just wanted advice! Guess you can't really trust anyone on this game? lol And i thought my name was cute... Dreis, it was cute. Too cute. You got greedy, buddy, and the hook was too formulaic. More subtlety and patience next time. Let the mark come to you. Message me sometime and we'll scheme something better up. wtf lol i don't have alts. you're gonna make everyone think the OP is me! *grrrrr In that case, get on your PS3 and change your password because you been hacked, the OP PSN is the same as yours!
That is going to come as a disappointment to anyone who sent:
b) A tip to show your appreciation for a Scam well-orchestrated.
Using the same PSN as your main is not well-orchestrated at all. If I had sent ISK I would have felt cheated! 
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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