DUST Search - Good set up for an Anti-Scout suit?

Joel II X wrote:

Tech De Ra wrote:

Joel II X wrote:

Scout Ck.0

3 CPX Precision Amplifiers
1 CPX Sidearm Damage Mod

2 CPX Profile Dampners

1 Bolt Pistol (doesn't matter what tier)
1 Ion Pistol (shields and quick shooting; best tier you can use)

1 Flux Grenade

1 Ishukone Cloak
1 Remote Explosive

Assuming you're able to fit all of this, you're probably going to have to compromise (hopefully not the modules)

Scouts won't be able to see you, and you'll be able to see most. You can trade the damage mod for an extra precision, but I prefer damage mods.

a shame about this is you are using 3 high slots to still not be able to see any scout that has 3 damps (or 2 for gal), rending you completely useless to standard fits that arnt brick tanks

Agreed, but I've only encountered a few scouts that actually use dampners in pubs. FW tends to be easy mode with all the assaults as well as heavies. Maybe 2 scouts out of every 20 matches or so.

However, by your logic, nothing will ever scan a non-caldari about that has all its lows filled with CPX Damps.

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Aiwha Bait Max-Pain-inc Dark Taboo 3	Posted - 2014.09.29 17:37:00 - [1] - Quote I feel that the game has become overrun by scouts with their damned Nova Knives and Bolt Pistols (Shotguns too, but not as much, I dont guess). I've been thinking about setting up an Anti-Scout suit for awhile now, but didn't know what I should throw on it. I had heard Gallente assault was a good suit (for the armor, I suppose) with a Breach Assault Rifle (dunno why that particular AR). Anybody else have any suggestions?
PO0KY Virtual Syndicate 1024	Posted - 2014.09.29 17:39:00 - [2] - Quote As a scout, my biggest fear is another scout that can out scan me. I'm so helpful.
John Psi Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance 964	Posted - 2014.09.29 17:39:00 - [3] - Quote Aiwha Bait wrote: I feel that the game has become overrun by scouts with their damned Nova Knives and Bolt Pistols (Shotguns too, but not as much, I dont guess). 10/10 Please support fair play!
Aiwha Bait Max-Pain-inc Dark Taboo 3	Posted - 2014.09.29 17:42:00 - [4] - Quote PO0KY wrote: As a scout, my biggest fear is another scout that can out scan me. Hm. Alright. Thanks, man. I'll look into it. Any weapon suggestions?
Joel II X Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3687	Posted - 2014.09.29 17:45:00 - [5] - Quote Scout Ck.0 3 CPX Precision Amplifiers 1 CPX Sidearm Damage Mod 2 CPX Profile Dampners 1 Bolt Pistol (doesn't matter what tier) 1 Ion Pistol (shields and quick shooting; best tier you can use) 1 Flux Grenade 1 Ishukone Cloak 1 Remote Explosive Assuming you're able to fit all of this, you're probably going to have to compromise (hopefully not the modules) Scouts won't be able to see you, and you'll be able to see most. You can trade the damage mod for an extra precision, but I prefer damage mods.
PO0KY Virtual Syndicate 1027	Posted - 2014.09.29 17:45:00 - [6] - Quote Aiwha Bait wrote: PO0KY wrote: As a scout, my biggest fear is another scout that can out scan me. Hm. Alright. Thanks, man. I'll look into it. Any weapon suggestions? I tend to feel pain from combat rifles. I'm so helpful.
RayRay James Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 445	Posted - 2014.09.29 17:47:00 - [7] - Quote Pooky, I may be talking out of my a$$ here, but wouldn't a gallente logi with the best scanners you can fit on it be better?
Aiwha Bait Max-Pain-inc Dark Taboo 3	Posted - 2014.09.29 17:48:00 - [8] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Scout Ck.0 3 CPX Precision Amplifiers 1 CPX Sidearm Damage Mod 2 CPX Profile Dampners 1 Bolt Pistol (doesn't matter what tier) 1 Ion Pistol (shields and quick shooting; best tier you can use) 1 Flux Grenade 1 Ishukone Cloak 1 Remote Explosive Assuming you're able to fit all of this, you're probably going to have to compromise (hopefully not the modules) Scouts won't be able to see you, and you'll be able to see most. You can trade the damage mod for an extra precision, but I prefer damage mods. What about lower tier Caladari suits? Obviously I want proto, but what should I use until then?
Vell0cet Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 2301	Posted - 2014.09.29 17:52:00 - [9] - Quote I'm in the process of skilling into this role myself. My plan is Amarr scout with an assault rifle, with precision enhancers and range extenders. This fit would require you to stick close by to your squadmates since you'll be fairly squishy. I'm thinking the AR is a good choice because it should work well in the ranges where your passive scans are effective, and it has a pretty balanced damage profile which makes it ideal for killing Caldari scouts as well as the rest. The ScR's overheat makes it less ideal for fast strafing/cloaked targets in mid-to-short range (like 10-30m). The other option is the GalLogi with high-end active scanners. Best PvE idea ever!
PO0KY Virtual Syndicate 1028	Posted - 2014.09.29 17:54:00 - [10] - Quote RayRay James wrote: Pooky, I may be talking out of my a$$ here, but wouldn't a gallente logi with the best scanners you can fit on it be better? On paper I'd agree. I'm just speaking from personal experience . I'm so helpful.

Atiim 12600	Posted - 2014.09.29 18:00:00 - [11] - Quote http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/837/8100 The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Tech De Ra Electronic Sports League 914	Posted - 2014.09.29 18:02:00 - [12] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Scout Ck.0 3 CPX Precision Amplifiers 1 CPX Sidearm Damage Mod 2 CPX Profile Dampners 1 Bolt Pistol (doesn't matter what tier) 1 Ion Pistol (shields and quick shooting; best tier you can use) 1 Flux Grenade 1 Ishukone Cloak 1 Remote Explosive Assuming you're able to fit all of this, you're probably going to have to compromise (hopefully not the modules) Scouts won't be able to see you, and you'll be able to see most. You can trade the damage mod for an extra precision, but I prefer damage mods. a shame about this is you are using 3 high slots to still not be able to see any scout that has 3 damps (or 2 for gal), rending you completely useless to standard fits that arnt brick tanks Prime League champion SGL Sidearm champion Fanfest '14 All star champion
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 5389	Posted - 2014.09.29 18:04:00 - [13] - Quote Honestly? Just get yourself an Ion Pistol. They may not one shot kill heavies but they are a scouts worst, if least expected, nightmare. You can still carry your regular primary and modules; just change out your sidearm. Learn to separate the morals from the Muhla.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 3426	Posted - 2014.09.29 18:11:00 - [14] - Quote PO0KY wrote: I tend to feel pain from combat rifles. So does everyone Even after the damage profile adjustment those things rips every fit I make to shreds at insane distances. The only thing the CR isn't good at is sucking. He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
matsumoto yuichi san The Elite Few Inc. The Methodical Alliance 54	Posted - 2014.09.29 18:11:00 - [15] - Quote PO0KY wrote: As a scout, my biggest fear is another scout that can out scan me. and that right there is a big part of the problem, the best counter to something shouldn't be the same something, just saying
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 1638	Posted - 2014.09.29 18:20:00 - [16] - Quote I've been running the adv cal scout with duel std bolt pistols. Seems OP Delt for CPM2 CPM1 MISSION : FAILED Moss-delt on skype
Aiwha Bait Max-Pain-inc Dark Taboo 4	Posted - 2014.09.29 18:25:00 - [17] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: PO0KY wrote: I tend to feel pain from combat rifles. So does everyone Even after the damage profile adjustment those things rips every fit I make to shreds at insane distances. The only thing the CR isn't good at is sucking. I feel the exact opposite! I swear by my BK-42, but the range sucks, I think. I love that thing as if were my kid. I think the Rail Rifle is better for distance than the Combat Rifle though. Lot more powerful too. I just dont like the fact that it has the delay after I pull the trigger.
TechMechMeds KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 6083	Posted - 2014.09.29 18:26:00 - [18] - Quote Ak0 2 prec mods 3 dampeners 1 range enhancer 1 shotgun 1 sidearm 1 cloak 1 re's or uplinks "Never say never, and only answer the questions you wish you were asked".
PO0KY Virtual Syndicate 1031	Posted - 2014.09.29 18:29:00 - [19] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Ak0 2 prec mods 3 dampeners 1 range enhancer 1 shotgun 1 sidearm 1 cloak 1 re's or uplinks I second this. I'm so helpful.
Aiwha Bait Max-Pain-inc Dark Taboo 4	Posted - 2014.09.29 18:31:00 - [20] - Quote PO0KY wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Ak0 2 prec mods 3 dampeners 1 range enhancer 1 shotgun 1 sidearm 1 cloak 1 re's or uplinks I second this. Like I said though, proto would be great, but what about for lower tier suits? This setup and just adjust for the different amount of slots?

PO0KY Virtual Syndicate 1031	Posted - 2014.09.29 18:33:00 - [21] - Quote Aiwha Bait wrote: PO0KY wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Ak0 2 prec mods 3 dampeners 1 range enhancer 1 shotgun 1 sidearm 1 cloak 1 re's or uplinks I second this. Like I said though, proto would be great, but what about for lower tier suits? This setup and just adjust for the different amount of slots? Pretty much. Another great anti-scout tactic is joining a squad and staying with the group I'm so helpful.
valad II NoGameNoLife 143	Posted - 2014.09.29 18:42:00 - [22] - Quote Aiwha Bait wrote: I feel that the game has become overrun by scouts with their damned Nova Knives and Bolt Pistols (Shotguns too, but not as much, I dont guess). I've been thinking about setting up an Anti-Scout suit for awhile now, but didn't know what I should throw on it. I had heard Gallente assault was a good suit (for the armor, I suppose) with a Breach Assault Rifle (dunno why that particular AR). Anybody else have any suggestions? Gallente Logi Proto running proto scans. Armed with any AR and bolt pistol.
valad II NoGameNoLife 143	Posted - 2014.09.29 18:44:00 - [23] - Quote RayRay James wrote: Pooky, I may be talking out of my a$$ here, but wouldn't a gallente logi with the best scanners you can fit on it be better? Sh!t I didn't see your post. Apologies
valad II NoGameNoLife 143	Posted - 2014.09.29 18:48:00 - [24] - Quote matsumoto yuichi san wrote: PO0KY wrote: As a scout, my biggest fear is another scout that can out scan me. and that right there is a big part of the problem, the best counter to something shouldn't be the same something, just saying It is the same but it isnt the same. Yes it maybe a scout, but it could be a different race. OR it could be a scout running different mods to pick up the dampened scouts. or Dampening themselves more to stay under radar. That is a counter measure. OR run a Gall logi which nothing is going to get under I believe.
2Berries Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 330	Posted - 2014.09.29 18:59:00 - [25] - Quote If you want anti-scout without running scout then gal logi with scanner, higher tier the better. Suggest gek or mass driver for weapons. If running scout, C/1 with 2 range amps, 2 precision mods. Put a rail rifle on to take advantage of the distance tacnet provides. Beyond that, a nice surrond sound headset. I run the C/1 noted above often & there are only a couple fit options that get under my passives, but all of them make the same sounds. Footsteps, decloak sound & reloads, a players ability to manage these susually seperate the scubs from the skillful. Have you considered a career in costumed aggression?
2Berries Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 330	Posted - 2014.09.29 19:03:00 - [26] - Quote Question to OP-are you scout hunting or do you want to be scout aware? Have you considered a career in costumed aggression?
icdedppul PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 197	Posted - 2014.09.29 19:45:00 - [27] - Quote Crazy Ivan Randomly turn around and look behind you really messes up a scouts day fitting wise it all depends on how you personally play and which of the annoying scouts do you want to kill so much
Joel II X Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3688	Posted - 2014.09.29 20:24:00 - [28] - Quote Tech De Ra wrote: Joel II X wrote: Scout Ck.0 3 CPX Precision Amplifiers 1 CPX Sidearm Damage Mod 2 CPX Profile Dampners 1 Bolt Pistol (doesn't matter what tier) 1 Ion Pistol (shields and quick shooting; best tier you can use) 1 Flux Grenade 1 Ishukone Cloak 1 Remote Explosive Assuming you're able to fit all of this, you're probably going to have to compromise (hopefully not the modules) Scouts won't be able to see you, and you'll be able to see most. You can trade the damage mod for an extra precision, but I prefer damage mods. a shame about this is you are using 3 high slots to still not be able to see any scout that has 3 damps (or 2 for gal), rending you completely useless to standard fits that arnt brick tanks Agreed, but I've only encountered a few scouts that actually use dampners in pubs. FW tends to be easy mode with all the assaults as well as heavies. Maybe 2 scouts out of every 20 matches or so. However, by your logic, nothing will ever scan a non-caldari about that has all its lows filled with CPX Damps.
Nestil uptown456 152	Posted - 2014.09.29 20:36:00 - [29] - Quote valad II wrote: Aiwha Bait wrote: I feel that the game has become overrun by scouts with their damned Nova Knives and Bolt Pistols (Shotguns too, but not as much, I dont guess). I've been thinking about setting up an Anti-Scout suit for awhile now, but didn't know what I should throw on it. I had heard Gallente assault was a good suit (for the armor, I suppose) with a Breach Assault Rifle (dunno why that particular AR). Anybody else have any suggestions? Gallente Logi Proto running proto scans. Armed with any AR and bolt pistol. well only the AR since you can't fit 2 weapons on a logi suit... btw I die and or kill fellow scouts with the breach scp (or get 2 shotted by bolt pistols) and the breach AR as you mentioned is effective too together with the RRs, which is the weapon that kills me most.
Forlorn Destrier Havok Dynasty 2766	Posted - 2014.09.29 21:53:00 - [30] - Quote deleted I am the Forgotten Warhorse, the Lord of Lightning

Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 5343	Posted - 2014.09.29 21:56:00 - [31] - Quote GA Logi and AM Scout are your best bet at hunting dampened Scouts. Any Logi or Scout can be fit to hunt undampened Scouts, provided you've maxed Precision Enhancement. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 4488	Posted - 2014.09.29 21:58:00 - [32] - Quote PLCs and MDs. Helps negate the small hit box, and any dampened scouts will have lower HP and can be taken out with splash damage. You can always tell a Millford Minja
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2419	Posted - 2014.09.29 23:14:00 - [33] - Quote Any suit, even a Frontline suit, is anti scout if you use your eyes. "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ Give the Minja active dampening!--By Bor
Atiim 12605	Posted - 2014.09.29 23:16:00 - [34] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Any suit, even a Frontline suit, is anti scout if you use your eyes. Only terri-bads allow themselves to get caught in LOS when you can see what direction they're facing. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Faquira Bleuetta Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 465	Posted - 2014.09.30 00:15:00 - [35] - Quote Aiwha Bait wrote: I feel that the game has become overrun by scouts with their damned Nova Knives and Bolt Pistols (Shotguns too, but not as much, I dont guess). I've been thinking about setting up an Anti-Scout suit for awhile now, but didn't know what I should throw on it. I had heard Gallente assault was a good suit (for the armor, I suppose) with a Breach Assault Rifle (dunno why that particular AR). Anybody else have any suggestions? put 2 complex damp profile
Henrietta Unknown CREATURES OF THE NIGHT 321	Posted - 2014.09.30 00:37:00 - [36] - Quote Lately, most scouts (Gallente especially) are arrogant and cocky, thinking they can't get picked up, and run without damps or with minimal damps. Grabbing a C/1 with max Prec Enhancers and range modules proves them wrong. Couple it with an alpha weapon (Scr, Ion Pistol, Sniper Rifle, Shotgun, Bolt Pistol, or even an SMG) and you'll leave them with a burn. Henrietta Reborn
TechMechMeds KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 6085	Posted - 2014.09.30 01:02:00 - [37] - Quote Aiwha Bait wrote: PO0KY wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Ak0 2 prec mods 3 dampeners 1 range enhancer 1 shotgun 1 sidearm 1 cloak 1 re's or uplinks I second this. Like I said though, proto would be great, but what about for lower tier suits? This setup and just adjust for the different amount of slots? 1 less dampener with a basic cloak but i think it should be fine. "Never say never, and only answer the questions you wish you were asked".
TechMechMeds KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 6085	Posted - 2014.09.30 01:04:00 - [38] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Tech De Ra wrote: Joel II X wrote: Scout Ck.0 3 CPX Precision Amplifiers 1 CPX Sidearm Damage Mod 2 CPX Profile Dampners 1 Bolt Pistol (doesn't matter what tier) 1 Ion Pistol (shields and quick shooting; best tier you can use) 1 Flux Grenade 1 Ishukone Cloak 1 Remote Explosive Assuming you're able to fit all of this, you're probably going to have to compromise (hopefully not the modules) Scouts won't be able to see you, and you'll be able to see most. You can trade the damage mod for an extra precision, but I prefer damage mods. a shame about this is you are using 3 high slots to still not be able to see any scout that has 3 damps (or 2 for gal), rending you completely useless to standard fits that arnt brick tanks Agreed, but I've only encountered a few scouts that actually use dampners in pubs. FW tends to be easy mode with all the assaults as well as heavies. Maybe 2 scouts out of every 20 matches or so. However, by your logic, nothing will ever scan a non-caldari about that has all its lows filled with CPX Damps. except it has 2 high slots. Meh, what can i do?. The char i use this on is all Amarr and this one is all Minmatar. "Never say never, and only answer the questions you wish you were asked".
Aiwha Bait Max-Pain-inc Dark Taboo 4	Posted - 2014.09.30 15:39:00 - [39] - Quote 2Berries wrote: Question to OP-are you scout hunting or do you want to be scout aware? I guess I want to be a little bit of both.
Aiwha Bait Max-Pain-inc Dark Taboo 4	Posted - 2014.09.30 15:49:00 - [40] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Any suit, even a Frontline suit, is anti scout if you use your eyes. Yes, I understand that, but when I play, I'm usually not pay much attention to my minimap (I mean, I am, but just enough to help me with what I'm doing) because I'm running logi, looking forward and to my sides. I'm not turning around and looking behind, and I look on the minimap after it's too late, and I'm about to have my brains blown out with a bolt pistol, or pricked with some knives.

Extraneus Tenebrarum CaUsE-4-CoNcErN 93	Posted - 2014.09.30 16:29:00 - [41] - Quote Mass driver , pistol of choice (except flaylock) good eyes and ears ,look behind you often, take corners widely ,half a brain and your good to go!
Extraneus Tenebrarum CaUsE-4-CoNcErN 93	Posted - 2014.09.30 16:34:00 - [42] - Quote Oh and "test the waters" in other words let blueberrys go first and watch what happens lol And overrall be paranoid
Aiwha Bait Max-Pain-inc Dark Taboo 4	Posted - 2014.09.30 17:20:00 - [43] - Quote Extraneus Tenebrarum wrote: Mass driver , pistol of choice (except flaylock) good eyes and ears ,look behind you often, take corners widely ,half a brain and your good to go! Will definitely take the advice regarding the corners, my brain, eyes, and ears. Thanks, man. O7
CLONE OF MANY Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 2	Posted - 2014.09.30 18:09:00 - [44] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Ak0 2 prec mods 3 dampeners 1 range enhancer 1 shotgun 1 sidearm 1 cloak 1 re's or uplinks This is very very similar to my setup except I do not run the damps. To me hunting scouts is easier if you become visible to them and draw them in but that is just a matter of play style. Either way L5 Amarr scout + range amp + precision mods is definitely the place to be if you want to hunt scouts. Just beware of those pesky Gal scouts that actually run ewar and can still sneak up on you.


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