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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
3204
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Posted - 2014.09.26 15:27:00 -
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In his absence I will play devil's advocate in favor of vehicles.
Bluntly we have now achieved HAV farming easy mode in AV.
Dropships I'm testing with an ADS PILOT every day.
People who act like petulant children will be mocked without mercy per usual. All input from panda uzmaki will be ignored for a period of no less than two weeks in punishment for crimes against civility. |
General John Ripper
24882
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Posted - 2014.09.26 15:30:00 -
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At least judge has an excuse for being absent.
Hey I just met you, and this is crazy
Now heres my number : 192.168.0.6:5555
Ping me maybe?
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Immortal John Ripper
24882
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Posted - 2014.09.26 15:30:00 -
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At least judge has an excuse for being absent.
Hey I just met you, and this is crazy
Now heres my number : 192.168.0.6:5555
Ping me maybe?
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
3204
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Posted - 2014.09.26 15:31:00 -
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Immortal John Ripper wrote:At least judge has an excuse for being absent.
I wish judge was here. I want to bounce things off him. Some ideas, some beer cans.
In both cases I hope his internet lines are reactivated soon. |
valad II
NoGameNoLife
113
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Posted - 2014.09.26 15:32:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:In his absence I will play devil's advocate in favor of vehicles.
Bluntly we have now achieved HAV farming easy mode in AV.
Dropships I'm testing with an ADS PILOT every day.
People who act like petulant children will be mocked without mercy per usual. All input from panda uzmaki will be ignored for a period of no less than two weeks in punishment for crimes against civility.
I like your attitude mister. |
Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
2132
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Posted - 2014.09.26 15:42:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:In his absence I will play devil's advocate in favor of vehicles.
Bluntly we have now achieved HAV farming easy mode in AV.
Dropships I'm testing with an ADS PILOT every day.
People who act like petulant children will be mocked without mercy per usual. All input from panda uzmaki will be ignored for a period of no less than two weeks in punishment for crimes against civility.
The ADS is now useless unless going for a redline sniper. You need the greater speed to get into and out of their redline.
It's otherwise useless.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Haerr
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
1467
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Posted - 2014.09.26 15:45:00 -
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valad II wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:In his absence I will play devil's advocate in favor of vehicles.
Bluntly we have now achieved HAV farming easy mode in AV.
Dropships I'm testing with an ADS PILOT every day.
People who act like petulant children will be mocked without mercy per usual. All input from panda uzmaki will be ignored for a period of no less than two weeks in punishment for crimes against civility. I like your altitude mister.
Fixed that for you. :-) |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
16769
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Posted - 2014.09.26 15:46:00 -
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you have been judged?
CPM 1
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior
\\= Prototype Sniper Rifles =// Unlocked
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TechMechMeds
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
6062
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Posted - 2014.09.26 16:03:00 -
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1/10.
GJR - The OG Like spawn camper.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
3211
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Posted - 2014.09.26 16:24:00 -
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Not trolling. Will be in devhangout looking for my ADS pilots to use me for a practice dummy.
Today we test small missile RoF efficacy |
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Atiim
12514
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Posted - 2014.09.26 16:35:00 -
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HAVs against AV (at least Swarms) are fine. 2 Hardeners and an Extender make you immune to them, but Madrugars get demolished by them if they decide to go for HP/s over HP.
If you do fit and Armor Plate or two, you'll live against SLs long enough to reach cover and repair your HP completely. But if you get caught in the open without cover, you can kiss your vehicle goodbye (which is balanced).
The 1st Matari Commando
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
4619
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Posted - 2014.09.26 16:37:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:In his absence I will play devil's advocate in favor of vehicles.
Bluntly we have now achieved HAV farming easy mode in AV.
Dropships I'm testing with an ADS PILOT every day.
People who act like petulant children will be mocked without mercy per usual. All input from panda uzmaki will be ignored for a period of no less than two weeks in punishment for crimes against civility.
You need more superfluous words.
Also catch phrase
Maybe
Quote: You HAV been Broken.
KRRROOOOOOM
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
3211
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Posted - 2014.09.26 16:39:00 -
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Atiim wrote:HAVs against AV (at least Swarms) are fine. 2 Hardeners and an Extender make you immune to them, but Madrugars get demolished by them if they decide to go for HP/s over HP.
If you do fit and Armor Plate or two, you'll live against SLs long enough to reach cover and repair your HP completely. But if you get caught in the open without cover, you can kiss your vehicle goodbye (which is balanced).
No Atiim. AV vs. HAV is fine. The reverse is not true.
AV is in a good spot. HAV offensive capacity is not. |
Atiim
12514
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Posted - 2014.09.26 16:43:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Atiim wrote:HAVs against AV (at least Swarms) are fine. 2 Hardeners and an Extender make you immune to them, but Madrugars get demolished by them if they decide to go for HP/s over HP.
If you do fit and Armor Plate or two, you'll live against SLs long enough to reach cover and repair your HP completely. But if you get caught in the open without cover, you can kiss your vehicle goodbye (which is balanced). No Atiim. AV vs. HAV is fine. The reverse is not true. AV is in a good spot. HAV offensive capacity is not.
Offensive capability against what?
Keep in mind that Large Turrets are supposed to be Anti-Vehicle weapons.
The 1st Matari Commando
-HAND
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
3213
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Posted - 2014.09.26 16:54:00 -
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Yeah I'm not getting into this argument until I have all my thoughts and facts organized. |
REDBACK96USMC
Ghosts of Dawn
General Tso's Alliance
65
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Posted - 2014.09.26 17:00:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Atiim wrote:HAVs against AV (at least Swarms) are fine. 2 Hardeners and an Extender make you immune to them, but Madrugars get demolished by them if they decide to go for HP/s over HP.
If you do fit and Armor Plate or two, you'll live against SLs long enough to reach cover and repair your HP completely. But if you get caught in the open without cover, you can kiss your vehicle goodbye (which is balanced). No Atiim. AV vs. HAV is fine. The reverse is not true. AV is in a good spot. HAV offensive capacity is not. Offensive capability against what? Keep in mind that Large Turrets are supposed to be Anti-Vehicle weapons.
Should be AV and Light Mobile Artillery. Tanks were originally invented and intended as Anti-Infantry weapons platforms.
I get how that could break the game but there are minor tweaks that could allow it to fulfill that role without being OP.
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Vesta Opalus
Kang Lo Holding
39
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Posted - 2014.09.26 18:24:00 -
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REDBACK96USMC wrote:Atiim wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Atiim wrote:HAVs against AV (at least Swarms) are fine. 2 Hardeners and an Extender make you immune to them, but Madrugars get demolished by them if they decide to go for HP/s over HP.
If you do fit and Armor Plate or two, you'll live against SLs long enough to reach cover and repair your HP completely. But if you get caught in the open without cover, you can kiss your vehicle goodbye (which is balanced). No Atiim. AV vs. HAV is fine. The reverse is not true. AV is in a good spot. HAV offensive capacity is not. Offensive capability against what? Keep in mind that Large Turrets are supposed to be Anti-Vehicle weapons. Should be AV and Light Mobile Artillery. Tanks were originally invented and intended as Anti-Infantry weapons platforms. I get how that could break the game but there are minor tweaks that could allow it to fulfill that role without being OP.
Quick note on the invention of tanks, they were not created as an anti infantry weapon, they were created to be an anti trench weapon. The infantry inside the trenches were largely a secondary concern.
And then tanks proliferated into a massive number of silly designs in the interwar period which were rapidly and brutally proven either good or **** during early stages in world war II, leaving you with a bunch of archetypical purposes (such as heavy main battle tanks or tank destroyers, etc) which each filled a different purpose. Tanks frequently had anti infantry weapons mounted on them (e.g. driver/captain machine guns) but were rarely designed specifically to kill infantry, because killing infantry is a trivial task. Tanks were there to break up lines and exploit openings in enemy lines, they were usually designed around blowing the **** out of other tanks/armored vehicles/pillboxes and going fast while not getting themselves blown up by enemy tanks.
Lets try not to bring reality into dust because it doesnt fit in any way, shape, or form to the way dust works and the way dust is limited (16 v 16 arena shooter is not analagous in many ways to large open theatres of war that real tanks were designed to play in).
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Orphan Shadow
Waiting For Deployment
86
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Posted - 2014.09.26 18:32:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:The ADS is now useless
This has been independently verified by several prominent cry babies. I'm doing my best to get the memo out, but unfortunately people that don't over react and throw forum tantrums aren't getting the message since we are still seeing several ADS in pubs, and you know, using them. |
Kierkegaard Soren
THE HANDS OF DEATH
522
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Posted - 2014.09.26 19:38:00 -
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On a side note, where has judge gone?
Dedicated Commando.
"He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing." -Paul Atreides.
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
3766
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Posted - 2014.09.26 19:42:00 -
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Kierkegaard Soren wrote:On a side note, where has judge gone?
This unfortunate purgatory called "real life". Last I heard, connection issues.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1547
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Posted - 2014.09.26 19:54:00 -
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I wonder what Panda thinks about all this? |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
3225
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Posted - 2014.09.26 20:00:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:I wonder what Panda thinks about all this?
Who cares? |
Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
817
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Posted - 2014.09.26 20:01:00 -
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REDBACK96USMC wrote:Atiim wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Atiim wrote:HAVs against AV (at least Swarms) are fine. 2 Hardeners and an Extender make you immune to them, but Madrugars get demolished by them if they decide to go for HP/s over HP.
If you do fit and Armor Plate or two, you'll live against SLs long enough to reach cover and repair your HP completely. But if you get caught in the open without cover, you can kiss your vehicle goodbye (which is balanced). No Atiim. AV vs. HAV is fine. The reverse is not true. AV is in a good spot. HAV offensive capacity is not. Offensive capability against what? Keep in mind that Large Turrets are supposed to be Anti-Vehicle weapons. Should be AV and Light Mobile Artillery. Tanks were originally invented and intended as Anti-Infantry weapons platforms. I get how that could break the game but there are minor tweaks that could allow it to fulfill that role without being OP.
Small turrets are for anti-infantry? Don't go crying just because you don't fit your HAV properly.
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Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
3132
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Posted - 2014.09.26 20:53:00 -
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Happy Violentime wrote:REDBACK96USMC wrote:Atiim wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Atiim wrote:HAVs against AV (at least Swarms) are fine. 2 Hardeners and an Extender make you immune to them, but Madrugars get demolished by them if they decide to go for HP/s over HP.
If you do fit and Armor Plate or two, you'll live against SLs long enough to reach cover and repair your HP completely. But if you get caught in the open without cover, you can kiss your vehicle goodbye (which is balanced). No Atiim. AV vs. HAV is fine. The reverse is not true. AV is in a good spot. HAV offensive capacity is not. Offensive capability against what? Keep in mind that Large Turrets are supposed to be Anti-Vehicle weapons. Should be AV and Light Mobile Artillery. Tanks were originally invented and intended as Anti-Infantry weapons platforms. I get how that could break the game but there are minor tweaks that could allow it to fulfill that role without being OP. Small turrets are for anti-infantry? Don't go crying just because you don't fit your HAV properly.
Most vehicle players dont, a tank is and has been for a long time a crutch to keep bad players in the game and the months of CCP pampering them before has just made them worse players so they never learned things like situational awareness or team work so they get stomped into a thin paste now that things are swinging back to balance
I usually never say this but they just need to get good |
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