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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.09.23 12:29:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:Dafuq?
After all that hassle to remove the availability of BPOs, all the forum worry about already owned BPOs
And furthermore:
The deep thought heavy opinion on CCP that BPOs breat and twist the dust market (or rather current stub economy)
But, that all fits along the big picture of dust being possibly shut down and possibly being monetized.
What we know:
-All Dropsuits will be BPOGÇÖs in Legion, so BPO dropsuits will not affect the market.
-Most veteran players would rather buy Standard gear rather than use a Militia blueprint.
-Even if people are using Militia BPOGÇÖs rather than purchasing Militia gear, the Militia gear cost so little that the impact on the market is minimal.
I would be a lot more surprised if the broad back Standard Weapon BPOGÇÖs.
Edit: Actually I think Militia gear should be seeded on the market in Legion, so that new players don't have to deal with market fluctuations until they learn to shoot. Have everything above Militia only available from players.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
4319
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Posted - 2014.09.23 12:43:00 -
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I already had the Sever Logi, but I did buy the Sever Scout, Sever Assault, and two copies of the Sever Sentinel this time around. (One for Fox and one for Crash.)
I would also buy the Valor or Raven Sentinel BPOGÇÖs if they are released, because I like both of those better than the Sever Sentinel. (But the Sever Sentinel at least looked better than the drab tan Dren Sentinel.)
I am guessing that I have spent over $600 on DUST so far, and that does not include the $15 per month I pay for decent in game mail and better Corp management tools.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
3540
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Posted - 2014.09.23 14:40:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:I thought they where removed due to it breaking the economy of the game im all for having them back but I thought they got taken out for a reason??
I repeat: What economy?
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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Raptor Princess
ALLOTEC INC
25
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Posted - 2014.09.23 14:44:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Ryme Intrinseca wrote:Ahkhomi Cypher wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:
Wonder if I can get skittles in the UK, know I can't get rum swizel trust me I TRIED.
Actually had a friend go to London like 2 summers ago. She said she couldn't find Skittles or NowAndLaters. They certainly used to sell Skittles, can't say I've looked recently. Never heard of NowAndLaters. Say whhhhhhhhhat? 
We definetly don't have those in Scotland...
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Joel II X
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
3584
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Posted - 2014.09.23 15:02:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Ahkhomi Cypher wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:I have standard and skinweave, why would I buy militia? ^this I got pretend money to buy all the militia gear i dont use. Why would i use real money. I could buy important stuff like Skittles or Jolly Ranchers with that. Wonder if I can get skittles in the UK, know I can't get rum swizel trust me I TRIED.
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steadyhand amarr
shadows of 514
3349
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Posted - 2014.09.23 15:06:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:I thought they where removed due to it breaking the economy of the game im all for having them back but I thought they got taken out for a reason?? I repeat: What economy?
Legions or are we just going assume that won't transfer over?
You can never have to many chaples
-Templar True adamance
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
3541
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Posted - 2014.09.23 15:12:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:I thought they where removed due to it breaking the economy of the game im all for having them back but I thought they got taken out for a reason?? I repeat: What economy? Legions or are we just going assume that won't transfer over?
My personal hope is that unique-looking things (suit skins) will transfer over, and AUR refund for the rest. Since CCP Z's progression thing at Fanfest said all suits were BPOs, BPO transfer for suits seems sensible to me, if they go with that progression system, or something like it.
But as CCP has not made a commitment either way on that, the safe assumption is purchasing just for DUST at this time. DUST is healthy enough that I think people who buy BPOs today will have plenty of time to get their money's worth out of them. They were removed, I think, pending the intention to add a player market to DUST. But since there isn't going to be a player market in DUST, it makes no sense to withhold popular items from purchase.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
16516
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Posted - 2014.09.23 15:55:00 -
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If you want to talk about things that broke the economy the PC isk faucet saw to that.
CPM 1
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior
\\= Advanced Large Railgun =// Unlocked
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Riruodo
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
250
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Posted - 2014.09.23 16:22:00 -
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Raptor Princess wrote:Ahkhomi Cypher wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:
Wonder if I can get skittles in the UK, know I can't get rum swizel trust me I TRIED.
Actually had a friend go to London like 2 summers ago. She said she couldn't find Skittles or NowAndLaters. I don't know where your friend was looking... We even get the American skittles in a pink box in the uk (which are gross, by the way- I was glad of the tiny size of pack). The uk sells lots of types of skittles in 'sharing' bags (but really, they are single portion  ) Why would you come here looking for American sweeties anyway?!! Try kinder eggs (customs took them off a friend entering America because apparently American children can't be trusted not to swallow the plastic egg inside) or Scottish tablet, washed down with Irn-Bru (also banned in America apparently)
OMG! Kinder eggs ARE THE BEST! The only American candy I like are sour gummy worms though...
There's one chocolate I can't remember what it's called, but it has coconut in it. those are good too.
Anyways, I don't think militia BPO's are a sign of Dust shutting down. I think it's a sign of CCP trying to find a way to monotize Dust 514 so that it can stay up longer. This is a good thing!! Besides, they don't affect anything (too much) because we already have starter fits and you can build a militia suit for like 2500 isk.
Utena Tenjou is my prince in shining armor.
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Operative 1125 Lokaas
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
382
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Posted - 2014.09.23 16:27:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Dust crossed from order into complete anarchy over the past few weeks. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=175926&find=unreadFrom receive a big back flash because of removal for a prospect of brighter future dust player market all the way around to a return making another step to downgrading dust's grand vision into another lobby shooter. I don't blame the devs currently working on dust there is not much they can do with the limited resources and they are making the best of it but i blame the devs who promised us a bigger and better Dust and could not deliver. Make Legion what dust was suppose to be or don't make it at all
These hotfixes have done more to turn DUST into an arena rumble style game and away from a tactical ground warfare game. I'd rather it go ahead and be one or the other instead of the mix that it used to be.
That's fine. Let DUST be the arena pvp game and let Legion be the tactical ground warfare game. I have a feeling CCP will still try to make Legion too much of a hoppy, skippy, jumpy roundy roundy though.
THIS IS THE VOICE OF RÁN
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Thang Bausch
Pierrot Le Fou Industries
220
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Posted - 2014.09.23 16:32:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:I thought they where removed due to it breaking the economy of the game im all for having them back but I thought they got taken out for a reason?? That reason obviously doesn't exists anymore as were not getting any in game market or trading of any type. So it makes sense for CCP to make a few quid on selling blueprints. Now then, LAV / DS / HAV blueprints pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! I would certainly pay for an LAV blueprint that I should have got a long time ago.
I might pay for a DS blueprint.
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Riruodo
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
250
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Posted - 2014.09.23 16:34:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:From receive a big back flash because of removal for a prospect of brighter future dust player market all the way around to a return making another step to downgrading dust's grand vision into another lobby shooter.
(o_O ) this is like the most confusing sentence I have ever read. I had to read this 5 times to understand it.
But how does the introduction of militia BPO's downgrade Dust's grand vision?
And yeah, this is kind of a lobby shooter, but it's also a pretty tactical and team based lobby shooter. How is it not? I mean, I've tried playing Halo and CoD (I didn't want to but one of my friend's brother had the games) and they all feel every-person-for-themselves-ish. With Dust I actually care about my teammates and you have to work together to accomplish things...
unless all you play is ambush.
Utena Tenjou is my prince in shining armor.
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Joel II X
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
3586
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Posted - 2014.09.23 16:37:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:Ahoy! Basically there was a high demand for BPOs ever since the big BPO fallout. I was approached through in-game chat channels and mails regarding this, plus we had lots of Forum posts and support tickets about Mercenaries wanting the BPOs back. We had some long and interesting discussions about this issue with LGM Grave, CCP Rattati and Logibro, and boom! Now they are back. I hope some of you are actually happy about it 
What the heck is a LGM? |
Grimmiers
659
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Posted - 2014.09.23 16:37:00 -
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I wish bpos just meant you could use resources to manufacture and infinite amount of militia weapons and higher tier blueprints would be finite and something corps could fight over.
Eventually I would allow the ability to hire researchers and other types of npcs on districts to make better blueprints with enough funding. That way we could have a capture the flag mode only you're downloading data and bringing it back to you're district for decryption and what not. |
Joel II X
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
3586
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Posted - 2014.09.23 16:37:00 -
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Riruodo wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:From receive a big back flash because of removal for a prospect of brighter future dust player market all the way around to a return making another step to downgrading dust's grand vision into another lobby shooter. (o_O ) this is like the most confusing sentence I have ever read. I had to read this 5 times to understand it. But how does the introduction of militia BPO's downgrade Dust's grand vision? And yeah, this is kind of a lobby shooter, but it's also a pretty tactical and team based lobby shooter. How is it not? I mean, I've tried playing Halo and CoD (I didn't want to but one of my friend's brother had the games) and they all feel every-person-for-themselves-ish. With Dust I actually care about my teammates and you have to work together to accomplish things... unless all you play is ambush.
He's mad that BPOs are killing a nonexistent market. |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
3054
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Posted - 2014.09.23 16:37:00 -
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Lead Game Master.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
9525
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Posted - 2014.09.23 16:40:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:Dafuq?
After all that hassle to remove the availability of BPOs, all the forum worry about already owned BPOs
And furthermore:
The deep thought heavy opinion on CCP that BPOs breat and twist the dust market (or rather current stub economy)
But, that all fits along the big picture of dust being possibly shut down and possibly being monetized.
That was a long time ago back when people were expecting Dust to have a player-run secondary market. But obviously that's not coming anymore so who gives a **** if the BPOs come back to Dust?
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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GM Archduke
Game Masters
C C P Alliance
480
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Posted - 2014.09.23 16:40:00 -
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Yupp.
And you, you should stop breakin' stuff already! Someone paid for that! 
GM Archduke
CCP Customer Support | EVE Online | DUST 514
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ChribbaX
Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control
Otherworld Empire Productions
1290
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Posted - 2014.09.23 16:40:00 -
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Bring back the overdrive modules for vehicles that you secretly nerfed!
DUSTBoard
DUST Server Status
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
2434
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Posted - 2014.09.23 17:01:00 -
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ChribbaX wrote:Bring back the overdrive modules for vehicles that you secretly nerfed!
I still have them and they (Militia, the other ones want a non-existent skill) still work 
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
12338
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Posted - 2014.09.23 17:19:00 -
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I don't remember the last time I used militia anything.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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ChribbaX
Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control
Otherworld Empire Productions
1290
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Posted - 2014.09.23 17:36:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:ChribbaX wrote:Bring back the overdrive modules for vehicles that you secretly nerfed! I still have them and they (Militia, the other ones want a non-existent skill) still work
Yeah I got a bunch of them as well, but I don't dare to use them haha
DUSTBoard
DUST Server Status
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Raptor Princess
ALLOTEC INC
27
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Posted - 2014.09.23 19:19:00 -
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Riruodo wrote:Raptor Princess wrote:Ahkhomi Cypher wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:
Wonder if I can get skittles in the UK, know I can't get rum swizel trust me I TRIED.
Actually had a friend go to London like 2 summers ago. She said she couldn't find Skittles or NowAndLaters. I don't know where your friend was looking... We even get the American skittles in a pink box in the uk (which are gross, by the way- I was glad of the tiny size of pack). The uk sells lots of types of skittles in 'sharing' bags (but really, they are single portion ) Why would you come here looking for American sweeties anyway?!! Try kinder eggs (customs took them off a friend entering America because apparently American children can't be trusted not to swallow the plastic egg inside) or Scottish tablet, washed down with Irn-Bru (also banned in America apparently) OMG! Kinder eggs ARE THE BEST! The only American candy I like are sour gummy worms though... There's one chocolate I can't remember what it's called, but it has coconut in it. those are good too. Anyways, I don't think militia BPO's are a sign of Dust shutting down. I think it's a sign of CCP trying to find a way to monotize Dust 514 so that it can stay up longer. This is a good thing!! Besides, they don't affect anything (too much) because we already have starter fits and you can build a militia suit for like 2500 isk.
Bounty? (The marmite of chocolate bars)
I can see people buying militia BPOs for the times where they're getting proto stomped and don't want to lose ISK, or when they've run out of ISK to restock. It gives you the chance to make a custom starter fit- I think that's pretty cool! |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
3060
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Posted - 2014.09.23 19:21:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:Yupp. And you, you should stop breakin' stuff already! Someone paid for that!
This simple fact makes the act all the sweeter.
Sorry about your toilet. I thought it as trying to call in an HAV and I got a little excited.
On a more serious note, my wishlist for BPOs:
All standard dropsuits
all standard guns
all Militia vehicles.
all militia vehicle modules.
Seriously I want to have more tanks, dropships and LAVs on the field to feed my forge gun. It's eternally hungry. |
PLAYSTTION
GamersForChrist
211
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Posted - 2014.09.23 19:49:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:Ahoy! Basically there was a high demand for BPOs ever since the big BPO fallout. I was approached through in-game chat channels and mails regarding this, plus we had lots of Forum posts and support tickets about Mercenaries wanting the BPOs back. We had some long and interesting discussions about this issue with LGM Grave, CCP Rattati and Logibro, and boom! Now they are back. I hope some of you are actually happy about it
WHAT!?!?!?! It took u guys that long?!?!?! You knew we wanted them back before you took them!
At least their back. Thanks for that.
44/4 in a BPO Scout (1.8) 40/5 in a Proto Assault(1.7) 35/0 in a Proto Heavy(1.8)
Open Beta Vet-30mil sp
R.I.P Dust514
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
Gentlemen's.Club
5103
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Posted - 2014.09.24 00:31:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Riruodo wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:From receive a big back flash because of removal for a prospect of brighter future dust player market all the way around to a return making another step to downgrading dust's grand vision into another lobby shooter. (o_O ) this is like the most confusing sentence I have ever read. I had to read this 5 times to understand it. But how does the introduction of militia BPO's downgrade Dust's grand vision? And yeah, this is kind of a lobby shooter, but it's also a pretty tactical and team based lobby shooter. How is it not? I mean, I've tried playing Halo and CoD (I didn't want to but one of my friend's brother had the games) and they all feel every-person-for-themselves-ish. With Dust I actually care about my teammates and you have to work together to accomplish things... unless all you play is ambush. He's mad that BPOs are killing a nonexistent market.
No i'm mad they got taken out because CCP was trying to push for something that never came to be. Reintroducing them is pretty much saying, "you know those things we told you we are have in plan, well f*ck that."
It's not just about there reintroduction BPO's it is the fundamental concept between what there reintroduction means. How simply CCP can promise so much and then say, nevermind we going to go play on something else. I just don't want Legion to turn out like Dust.
I like what the current Devs are doing to the game it is starting to see some form of life. I'm just annoyed by the things i heard from CCP 2-4 years ago about Dust that are not even virtually here.
EVE 21 Day Trial(7 Days longer then regular trial)
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
1315
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Posted - 2014.09.24 01:06:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:If you want to talk about things that broke the economy the PC isk faucet saw to that.
It was the CCPs claim that BPOs were breaking the economy and that the PC faucet had nothing to do with it.
We are just repeating previous reasons given to us.
People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
9530
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Posted - 2014.09.24 01:10:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Joel II X wrote:Riruodo wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:From receive a big back flash because of removal for a prospect of brighter future dust player market all the way around to a return making another step to downgrading dust's grand vision into another lobby shooter. (o_O ) this is like the most confusing sentence I have ever read. I had to read this 5 times to understand it. But how does the introduction of militia BPO's downgrade Dust's grand vision? And yeah, this is kind of a lobby shooter, but it's also a pretty tactical and team based lobby shooter. How is it not? I mean, I've tried playing Halo and CoD (I didn't want to but one of my friend's brother had the games) and they all feel every-person-for-themselves-ish. With Dust I actually care about my teammates and you have to work together to accomplish things... unless all you play is ambush. He's mad that BPOs are killing a nonexistent market. No i'm mad they got taken out because CCP was trying to push for something that never came to be. Reintroducing them is pretty much saying, "you know those things we told you we are have in plan, well f*ck that." It's not just about there reintroduction BPO's it is the fundamental concept between what there reintroduction means. How simply CCP can promise so much and then say, nevermind we going to go play on something else. I just don't want Legion to turn out like Dust. I like what the current Devs are doing to the game it is starting to see some form of life. I'm just annoyed by the things i heard from CCP 2-4 years ago about Dust that are not even virtually here.
And that's why CCP has been extremely mute for the past few of months regarding Project Legion. They finally learned that karma can bite them in the ass pretty hard if they don't stop making empty promises and actually start delivering instead.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Kalante Schiffer
753
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Posted - 2014.09.24 01:18:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Joel II X wrote:Riruodo wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:From receive a big back flash because of removal for a prospect of brighter future dust player market all the way around to a return making another step to downgrading dust's grand vision into another lobby shooter. (o_O ) this is like the most confusing sentence I have ever read. I had to read this 5 times to understand it. But how does the introduction of militia BPO's downgrade Dust's grand vision? And yeah, this is kind of a lobby shooter, but it's also a pretty tactical and team based lobby shooter. How is it not? I mean, I've tried playing Halo and CoD (I didn't want to but one of my friend's brother had the games) and they all feel every-person-for-themselves-ish. With Dust I actually care about my teammates and you have to work together to accomplish things... unless all you play is ambush. He's mad that BPOs are killing a nonexistent market. No i'm mad they got taken out because CCP was trying to push for something that never came to be. Reintroducing them is pretty much saying, "you know those things we told you we are have in plan, well f*ck that." It's not just about there reintroduction BPO's it is the fundamental concept between what there reintroduction means. How simply CCP can promise so much and then say, nevermind we going to go play on something else. I just don't want Legion to turn out like Dust. I like what the current Devs are doing to the game it is starting to see some form of life. I'm just annoyed by the things i heard from CCP 2-4 years ago about Dust that are not even virtually here. And that's why CCP has been extremely mute for the past few of months regarding Project Legion. They finally learned that karma can bite them in the ass pretty hard if they don't stop making empty promises and actually start delivering instead. Hopefully they learned.
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buzzzzzzz killllllllll
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
695
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Posted - 2014.09.24 02:16:00 -
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Raptor Princess wrote:Ahkhomi Cypher wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:
Wonder if I can get skittles in the UK, know I can't get rum swizel trust me I TRIED.
Actually had a friend go to London like 2 summers ago. She said she couldn't find Skittles or NowAndLaters. I don't know where your friend was looking... We even get the American skittles in a pink box in the uk (which are gross, by the way- I was glad of the tiny size of pack). The uk sells lots of types of skittles in 'sharing' bags (but really, they are single portion ) Why would you come here looking for American sweeties anyway?!! Try kinder eggs (customs took them off a friend entering America because apparently American children can't be trusted not to swallow the plastic egg inside) or Scottish tablet, washed down with Irn-Bru (also banned in America apparently)
lol typical american ****** child too busy eating chocolate and to dumb not to eat the plastic inside... Im american btw so dont get pissed at me all my gun toting countrymen
Nerf my heavy suit, its so OP its UP
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