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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2014.09.19 10:17:00 -
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Because I can't remember/can't find the formulae.
1: Are the bonuses of % modules additive or multiplicative?
I.E. would 2 +20 mods be a 40% bonus or dos it go x multiplied by .8 or 1.2 twice depending on if its an add or reducer?
2: whats the stacking penalty breakdown again? I need exact numbers.
I think I just figured ot something glorious, legal, non-cheapass and potentially hilarious. Will share after testing. |
Haerr
Legio DXIV
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Posted - 2014.09.19 10:19:00 -
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Haerr
Legio DXIV
1423
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Posted - 2014.09.19 10:23:00 -
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In Dust how ever multipliers below 1 get the stacking penalty on the "wrong" module as Dust simply puts the stacking penalties on the modules with lowest value, regardless of wether or not "lower is better".
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Haerr
Legio DXIV
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Posted - 2014.09.19 10:26:00 -
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Haerr wrote:In Dust how ever multipliers below 1 get the stacking penalty on the "wrong" module as Dust simply puts the stacking penalties on the modules with lowest value, regardless of wether or not "lower is better".
Example with dampeners:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lEsosdTiQPnru0HIuClP2Q4peKrIpfHGBh7wtwkUkQo/edit?usp=sharing |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
2845
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Posted - 2014.09.19 11:03:00 -
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Does the skill mod apply before or after modules?
Is the bonus additive or multiplicative? This is critical.
There is screaming and tears at stake. |
Haerr
Legio DXIV
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Posted - 2014.09.19 11:30:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Does the skill mod apply before or after modules?
Is the bonus additive or multiplicative? This is critical.
There is screaming and tears at stake.
Basically everything is multiplicative (so it doesn't matter which order they come in)
Stacking penalty affects modules in the same stack
Skill modifiers and module modifiers are in different stacks
Skill modifiers to the same attribute are not stacking penalised
Wiyrkomi Breach Forge Gun - http://www.stuff514.com/sde/type/355740
Wiyrkomi Breach Forge Gun Projectile - http://www.stuff514.com/sde/type/355739
Complex Heavy Damage Modifier - http://www.stuff514.com/sde/type/354905
Weapon Damage * Damage Mod 1 * (Damage Mod 2 * Stacking Penalty) * (Damage Mod 3 * Stacking Penalty) * (Damage Mod 4 * Stacking Penalty) * Weapon Damage Profile * Weapon Proficiency
2100 * (1 + .05) * (1 + .05 * 0.8691199808) * (1 + .05 * 0.5705831435) * (1 + .05 * 0.282955154) = 2399.941063001 ~ 2400
vs Madrugar (1200 shields, 4000 armour):
first * is damage profile
second * is weapon proficiency
2400 - (1200 * 1.1 * 1) = 1080
1080 - (4000 * 0.9 * 0.85) = -1980
So if you hit a Madrugar with that 4x damage modded specced out PRO Breach Forge gun it should be left with 1980 armour hp. Unless I did something wrong... (Not sure if it would take direct damage AND splash damage but that should be easy to check. Also the damage profile and proficiency could be applied to the damage and not the tank, but this way was quicker for me...) |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
2845
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Posted - 2014.09.19 12:01:00 -
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Not the answer I was hoping for, but the lesser result is still infinitely viable and relevant to my interests. I must now divert SP and conduct tests of my new methodology.
For once, my intended victims are not vehicle drivers.
You bastards may rejoice that I have not found yet another way to jack you up. |
deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
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Posted - 2014.09.19 22:30:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Because I can't remember/can't find the formulae.
1: Are the bonuses of % modules additive or multiplicative?
I.E. would 2 +20 mods be a 40% bonus or dos it go x multiplied by .8 or 1.2 twice depending on if its an add or reducer? Either answer should be hilarious to a greater or lesser degree.
2: whats the stacking penalty breakdown again? I need exact numbers.
I think I just figured ot something glorious, legal, non-cheapass and potentially hilarious. Will share after testing.
Staking penalty calculator can be found here.
http://wiki.dust514.info/index.php?title=Stacking_Penalties
You can also explore around for stats if needed.
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