DUST Search - Dropship raming

Outie 500 wrote:

Starlight Burner wrote:

Is there an eta on when a Gorgon will NOT be able to survive a ram to a python? It's Bs that a Gorgon can survive the hit and the Python will blow up, especially when the Gorgon is the one ramming.

It all depends on HOW you were rammed! It takes SKILL not to blow your own ship up in a collision. (so now you want skills nerfed? Again?) The method I find that works the best is "T-Boning". (No not the steak!) If I were to land my ship on top of yours, I would be engulfed in flames and jump out before i died....(Captains should ALWAYS go down with the ship). However, there is a "sweet spot" you have to aim for.
Here's the kicker right in the sack..... I have enough isk to buy 1,000,000++ gorgons..... So does it really matter? Blame CCP for lack of fun in Dust!
I would agree to the "collision nerf" if you would agree to making you ship as SLOW as a gorgon! It reminds me of the story about the turtle -vs- rabbit! Oh those fond childhood memories......

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Starlight Burner ROGUE RELICS VP Gaming Alliance 34	Posted - 2014.09.19 07:09:00 - [1] - Quote Is there an eta on when a Gorgon will NOT be able to survive a ram to a python? It's Bs that a Gorgon can survive the hit and the Python will blow up, especially when the Gorgon is the one ramming. Screw you CCP, y'all are leaving DUST behind. Never forget 514, we carved the way.
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 535	Posted - 2014.09.19 07:24:00 - [2] - Quote Also unfair how many 225k logi's I've lost to milita shotgun scouts, oh and road killed by Bpo jeeps, and snipers.. Expensive toys need to be indestructible. Lonewolf till I die
Starlight Burner ROGUE RELICS VP Gaming Alliance 34	Posted - 2014.09.19 07:48:00 - [3] - Quote HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Also unfair how many 225k logi's I've lost to milita shotgun scouts, oh and road killed by Bpo jeeps, and snipers.. Expensive toys need to be indestructible. What I'm trying to say is that Armor Dropships survive ramming other dropships. The Shield dropships, Pyhton and Myron, can not survive being rammed by either a Incubus or a Grimsnes. Screw you CCP, y'all are leaving DUST behind. Never forget 514, we carved the way.
Cpt McReady Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 27	Posted - 2014.09.19 07:53:00 - [4] - Quote because they have more mass especially with plates. working as intended.
Michael Arck 5627	Posted - 2014.09.19 07:56:00 - [5] - Quote Hell, I want that Recall time back! Jesus, I'm sitting there for half a match recalling a DS. Archistrategos / The 7th Prime / Selah *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
Smoky Fingers Red Star. EoN. 452	Posted - 2014.09.19 08:03:00 - [6] - Quote ETA when u logic OP? You make the anti ramming side look bad First dude to cloak a commando.
PARKOUR PRACTIONER D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1940	Posted - 2014.09.19 08:15:00 - [7] - Quote A Python rammed my Gorgon. He burst into flames while i regained control and continued barrel rolling. PSN Sil4ntChaozz High-Funtioning Autistic Skater & Amatuer Parkour Practitioner Minja Chef & Ganja Assassin
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 537	Posted - 2014.09.19 08:15:00 - [8] - Quote Cpt McReady wrote: because they have more mass especially with plates. working as intended. This.... Also your chances of dying by jihad jeep, or re's are almost nil. A shield dropship can dance around armor ds it's fair. Tho tanks should take ramming damage, just sayin. Lonewolf till I die
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 537	Posted - 2014.09.19 08:17:00 - [9] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: A Python rammed my Gorgon. He burst into flames while i regained control and continued barrel rolling. Dam your shied hardeners waisted my gorgon... I hate you man Lonewolf till I die
Vyzion Eyri The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 2421	Posted - 2014.09.19 08:46:00 - [10] - Quote Vehicle TACNET minimaps should be designed to detect other vehicles. 500m radius, but a really high scan strength (which is bad) so that it can only pick up things with high scan signatures (like vehicles). Then pilots in shield dropships can utilise their mobility to get out of dodge because good pilots will notice incoming threats. > Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 1013	Posted - 2014.09.19 09:11:00 - [11] - Quote Soo... you're asking why a ship with higher structural integrity survives an impact against a ship that cut out structure to boost it's shields? Shields are there to repel projectiles. After a colliding object exceeds a certain size it would make sense that it no longer provides any protection. It's armor that stops inertia, shielding redirects.If it can't redirect an object because it is too large, it collapses and the mass collides with the hull. Kind of makes sense when you think about it a bit. http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU Dust to Dust Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
hold that Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 253	Posted - 2014.09.19 10:47:00 - [12] - Quote ads is scrub pub ez mode, they make it so playing oms, dom, skirm is sht. they cannot be killed without 3-4 dedicated av., or another ds biggest pub scrubs in game (ccp's fault tho): ads cloak scouts (wall hack should be removed) cloak scouts w/ remotes (remotes should be 5 to 10 second thing, not drop/jump in the air kill insta kill) heavy burst (tho this one is not that bad because ultimately you can avoid engagement)
Zindorak 1.U.P 919	Posted - 2014.09.19 11:55:00 - [13] - Quote I don't understad y people continue to ram. There is AV (swarm launcher) that got uber buffed so that it can eat ADS all day Pokemon master! I suck at Tekken lol
Vulpes Dolosus Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2081	Posted - 2014.09.19 12:21:00 - [14] - Quote hold that wrote: ads is scrub pub ez mode, they make it so playing oms, dom, skirm is sht. they cannot be killed without 3-4 dedicated av., or another ds biggest pub scrubs in game (ccp's fault tho): ads cloak scouts (wall hack should be removed) cloak scouts w/ remotes (remotes should be 5 to 10 second thing, not drop/jump in the air kill insta kill) heavy burst (tho this one is not that bad because ultimately you can avoid engagement) Delicious! Dust was real! I was there!
CharacterNameWasTaken G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 42	Posted - 2014.09.19 12:36:00 - [15] - Quote Starlight Burner wrote: HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Also unfair how many 225k logi's I've lost to milita shotgun scouts, oh and road killed by Bpo jeeps, and snipers.. Expensive toys need to be indestructible. What I'm trying to say is that Armor Dropships survive ramming other dropships. The Shield dropships, Pyhton and Myron, can not survive being rammed by either a Incubus or a Grimsnes. then dont use a python.
CharacterNameWasTaken G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 42	Posted - 2014.09.19 12:39:00 - [16] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: Soo... you're asking why a ship with higher structural integrity survives an impact against a ship that cut out structure to boost it's shields? Shields are there to repel projectiles. After a colliding object exceeds a certain size it would make sense that it no longer provides any protection. It's armor that stops inertia, shielding redirects.If it can't redirect an object because it is too large, it collapses and the mass collides with the hull. Kind of makes sense when you think about it a bit. basically the shield works like bulletproof glass made to stop small penetration but once it gets a large object colliding with it it fails.
CharacterNameWasTaken G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 42	Posted - 2014.09.19 12:41:00 - [17] - Quote HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Cpt McReady wrote: because they have more mass especially with plates. working as intended. This.... Also your chances of dying by jihad jeep, or re's are almost nil. A shield dropship can dance around armor ds it's fair. Tho tanks should take ramming damage, just sayin. i have used ram damage on tanls before it was removed but it usually took alot of ehp away.
RayRay James Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 416	Posted - 2014.09.19 13:02:00 - [18] - Quote Starlight Burner wrote: Is there an eta on when a Gorgon will NOT be able to survive a ram to a python? It's Bs that a Gorgon can survive the hit and the Python will blow up, especially when the Gorgon is the one ramming. How bad do you suck to get hit by another dropship? Are you never moving? This post. Are you trying to get made fun of? Because that's how you get made fun of.
Outie 500 Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 6	Posted - 2014.09.19 14:03:00 - [19] - Quote Starlight Burner wrote: Is there an eta on when a Gorgon will NOT be able to survive a ram to a python? It's Bs that a Gorgon can survive the hit and the Python will blow up, especially when the Gorgon is the one ramming. It all depends on HOW you were rammed! It takes SKILL not to blow your own ship up in a collision. (so now you want skills nerfed? Again?) The method I find that works the best is "T-Boning". (No not the steak!) If I were to land my ship on top of yours, I would be engulfed in flames and jump out before i died....(Captains should ALWAYS go down with the ship). However, there is a "sweet spot" you have to aim for. Here's the kicker right in the sack..... I have enough isk to buy 1,000,000++ gorgons..... So does it really matter? Blame CCP for lack of fun in Dust! I would agree to the "collision nerf" if you would agree to making you ship as SLOW as a gorgon! It reminds me of the story about the turtle -vs- rabbit! Oh those fond childhood memories......
Outie 500 Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 6	Posted - 2014.09.19 14:24:00 - [20] - Quote Starlight Burner wrote: HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Also unfair how many 225k logi's I've lost to milita shotgun scouts, oh and road killed by Bpo jeeps, and snipers.. Expensive toys need to be indestructible. What I'm trying to say is that Armor Dropships survive ramming other dropships. The Shield dropships, Pyhton and Myron, can not survive being rammed by either a Incubus or a Grimsnes. That's the problem...... Shields. EVERYONE knows armor is Boss! Except you I guess.

maluble Art.of.Death VP Gaming Alliance 73	Posted - 2014.09.19 14:25:00 - [21] - Quote RayRay James wrote: Starlight Burner wrote: Is there an eta on when a Gorgon will NOT be able to survive a ram to a python? It's Bs that a Gorgon can survive the hit and the Python will blow up, especially when the Gorgon is the one ramming. How bad do you suck to get hit by another dropship? Are you never moving? This post. Are you trying to get made fun of? Because that's how you get made fun of. Have you flown an ads? Its really fuckn hard to get accurate hits while moving. If your not gonna contribute to thread dont post.
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 546	Posted - 2014.09.19 14:27:00 - [22] - Quote Outie 500 wrote: Starlight Burner wrote: Is there an eta on when a Gorgon will NOT be able to survive a ram to a python? It's Bs that a Gorgon can survive the hit and the Python will blow up, especially when the Gorgon is the one ramming. It all depends on HOW you were rammed! It takes SKILL not to blow your own ship up in a collision. (so now you want skills nerfed? Again?) The method I find that works the best is "T-Boning". (No not the steak!) If I were to land my ship on top of yours, I would be engulfed in flames and jump out before i died....(Captains should ALWAYS go down with the ship). However, there is a "sweet spot" you have to aim for. Here's the kicker right in the sack..... I have enough isk to buy 1,000,000++ gorgons..... So does it really matter? Blame CCP for lack of fun in Dust! I would agree to the "collision nerf" if you would agree to making you ship as SLOW as a gorgon! It reminds me of the story about the turtle -vs- rabbit! Oh those fond childhood memories...... Wait a sec... You have 27,000,000,000 isk? Lonewolf till I die
maluble Art.of.Death VP Gaming Alliance 73	Posted - 2014.09.19 14:28:00 - [23] - Quote RayRay James wrote: Starlight Burner wrote: Is there an eta on when a Gorgon will NOT be able to survive a ram to a python? It's Bs that a Gorgon can survive the hit and the Python will blow up, especially when the Gorgon is the one ramming. How bad do you suck to get hit by another dropship? Are you never moving? This post. Are you trying to get made fun of? Because that's how you get made fun of. I will now hunt you in any battle I encounter you in.(slowly draws my blades with a sly grin).
valad II NoGameNoLife 27	Posted - 2014.09.19 14:34:00 - [24] - Quote hold that wrote: ads is scrub pub ez mode, they make it so playing oms, dom, skirm is sht. they cannot be killed without 3-4 dedicated av., or another ds biggest pub scrubs in game (ccp's fault tho): ads cloak scouts (wall hack should be removed) cloak scouts w/ remotes (remotes should be 5 to 10 second thing, not drop/jump in the air kill insta kill) heavy burst (tho this one is not that bad because ultimately you can avoid engagement) So basically anything that kills your whiny azz, ? Skylanders is fun, maybe you should check it out.
CELESTA AUNGM Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 270	Posted - 2014.09.19 16:14:00 - [25] - Quote Starlight Burner wrote: Is there an eta on when a Gorgon will NOT be able to survive a ram to a python? It's Bs that a Gorgon can survive the hit and the Python will blow up, especially when the Gorgon is the one ramming. Salutes to you, Starlight. Wait-wait, though... I'm not agreeing with your wish,... I'm just acknowlegding that you have a valid problem to tackle. Dropships were the famous "this thing is SOOO danged STOOPID to master--the controls are all jacked up---why would anyone want to drive this tin-crap---I hate this game!!" vehicle. When I got hooked on DS around March 2013, there were forums all over the place for discussing "Ground School learning of the Dropship in Dust". When you read the forums, you got the idea that "learning to fly it" didn't just involve what to do with the controls when you want to move through the air... "learning to fly it" also meant knowing what to do with the controls when someone else DOESN'T want you in the air. As if just CONTROLLING the danged thing wasn't a challenge enough, we novice drivers had to face the horrible point of view that we STILL couldn't call ourselves "capable DS players" unlit AFTER we had mastered some ways of moving the DS against someone else who wants us dead. When I was learning DS, the infamous "someone else" was the Rail Installation or the Forge Gun carrier. --Trying to over-stack modules was not a solution (we didn't like the trade-offs). --Relying on fleeing was not a solution (you wanted to STAY in the fight, not run away like a yelping stray dog). We weren't "pilots" (a word I personally dislike in Dust), unless we learmed not only how to drive, AND how to duck-n-dogde 1v1. Maybe what the forum says is true, that Dust is now handing over the mantle from departing vet players to a whole new wave of novice players again. If so, it is good to see that some of us are recognizing the same facts about this vehicle: Just being able to "fly" it where you want, and do loops/rolls stunts ISN'T yet being a skilled DS operator---the other 50% of the challenge is learning how to handle enemy (and CCP) who want you OUT of the area. Nowadays the enemy is more and more the ramming DS players. Like the murder-taxis and the explosives-LAV, I think they are legitmate players and are using the kind of grinning inventiveness that should be accepted in EVE gameplay (...even though I don't prefer those techniques, myself). I've been hit a few times too, and being rammed IS a challenge. --Demanding a buff/nerf from the devs is not a solution. --Criticizing the Caldari and Gallente hull differences is not a solution (the differences were intended to offer you some advantages--the ramming player just used her head quicker than us and adopted an exploiting technique--good for her!) If you're the "rammer" reading this post, and you ocassionally bump into a DS that breaks your shiled-dropship in half like a toy car...that's GOOD. And Starlight, if you're a player who is being successfully rammed by enemy dropships, that's your next training lesson: add some football fake-out moves and dodging methods with your DS, to "deal with" a rammer. And by "deal with" I mean irritate him like a toreador shames a pea-brain bull,... I don't subscribe in CCP's "you have to run away and come back later" scheme--I will resist that mindset till my last diyng clone body. Universe of good wishes for the 49, especially CCP Eterne... No story can have life without writers and publishers.
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 2387	Posted - 2014.09.19 16:20:00 - [26] - Quote Vyzion Eyri wrote: Then pilots in shield dropships can utilise their mobility to get out of dodge because good pilots will notice incoming threats. Max Skills with an Adv Cal Scout, 2 complex range extenders, 3 precision, works even inside your derpship. Boom, you now have real scans with a big radius. "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
Awesome Pantaloons Lokapalas. 537	Posted - 2014.09.19 16:23:00 - [27] - Quote Starlight Burner wrote: Is there an eta on when a Gorgon will NOT be able to survive a ram to a python? It's Bs that a Gorgon can survive the hit and the Python will blow up, especially when the Gorgon is the one ramming. Armor has greater impact absorption than shields. This is easily tested and logical. That's why people use Gorgons instead of Vipers. Get gud at dodging. "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited." -The Code of Demeanor
Michael Arck 5632	Posted - 2014.09.19 19:19:00 - [28] - Quote hold that wrote: ads is scrub pub ez mode, they make it so playing oms, dom, skirm is sht. they cannot be killed without 3-4 dedicated av., or another ds biggest pub scrubs in game (ccp's fault tho): ads cloak scouts (wall hack should be removed) cloak scouts w/ remotes (remotes should be 5 to 10 second thing, not drop/jump in the air kill insta kill) heavy burst (tho this one is not that bad because ultimately you can avoid engagement) Well PC would anger you greatly Archistrategos / The 7th Prime / Selah *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
Heimdallr69 Nyain San General Tso's Alliance 3607	Posted - 2014.09.19 19:52:00 - [29] - Quote HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Also unfair how many 225k logi's I've lost to milita shotgun scouts, oh and road killed by Bpo jeeps, and snipers.. Expensive toys need to be indestructible. Kinda like jihad lav's getting tanks. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro


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