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Bright Steel
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.09.16 18:24:00 -
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So I do have to say they did a great job of locking down the entire map with 3 tanks and DS in amaar vrs minmatar FW the other day, gg and great job.
With the niceties out of the way, how do you counter them???
A good squad with av and escorts ( because they had just enough infantry support as well) could hurt them but I often run solo now that my corp and alliance chats are usually almost empty. What solo tactics could allow me to accomplish something. I run all minmatar by the way.
Any suggestions???
The Best Worst game you can't stop playing..... DUST
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ACT1ON BASTARD
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
147
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Posted - 2014.09.16 18:28:00 -
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Roof forging |
Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1515
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Posted - 2014.09.16 18:30:00 -
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If I were solo, I would run a proto forge or fly an ADS to counter their vehicles, then get ready to counter their infantry zerg (which often means going someplace else).
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Bright Steel
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
85
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Posted - 2014.09.16 18:34:00 -
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I tried to pilot a DS but could get a hang of it, and I was too Broke to throw That much away practicing. But now that I am over 20 mil I could try again....
The Best Worst game you can't stop playing..... DUST
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danthrax martin
Butcher's Nails
115
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Posted - 2014.09.16 18:37:00 -
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Get under the vehicle and suit scans, and don't A/V unless you pro A/V. (solo).
Pro Galmando - Gal Sentinel
Suicidal A/V Moron
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Atiim
12191
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Posted - 2014.09.16 18:37:00 -
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I'm not trying be inflammatory, but their tankers are pretty terrible.
All you have to do to stop them is shoot the first volley of your Swarm backwards, then fire the next ones forward. Usually they'll just sit there thinking that their reps can bring them back to enough HP to get a few more kills before having to retreat, but then they get ripped open like a can of Sardines.
Someone needs to tell them that Armor Reps don't work fare well against Swarm Launchers. As an AVer who almost always runs solo, I'd say that you should generally run with a Methana to get you from place to place w/o being interrupted by Infantry.
Fit a 20GJ Particle Cannon and an Amplifier and you can down their Dropship. Just be sure to aim at their engines in the back, or if they're skill stacking like a scrub then aim at the Bay Doors.
The 1st Matari Commando
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD
331
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Posted - 2014.09.16 18:47:00 -
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Get a squad of decent tankers against them. They usually pack up if the likes of enders shadoww, delboy, or a number of other tankers show up. They may throw away a few, but then they will hit the ground once 3 or 4 tanks go down. They only blaster tank for kills, and aren't truly interested in a tank battle with rails and missiles involved. ADS works great, swarms are the squad of ground troops answer, and proto forge is the solo mercs workhorse. o7
"Anybody order chaos?"
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CommanderBolt
TerranProtossZerg
1605
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Posted - 2014.09.16 18:54:00 -
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I will tell you this, fighting against them on the ground using standard gear WILL make you a better player. It will also be highly frustrating but when you kill their lovely proto with your bpo`s..... it is a nice feeling if uncommon.
-=#[ Gastun's Forge ]#=-
MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
"I'm wasting away here" - "Get me back into zee fight!
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Orphan Shadow
Waiting For Deployment
39
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Posted - 2014.09.16 19:00:00 -
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Bright Steel wrote:how do you counter them??? [...] What solo tactics could allow me to accomplish something. At best, solo, you would harass a couple of them, but you won't beat them. The counter to good squads, is good squads.
ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:Roof forging Good harassment potential, but it *will* be countered if you **** them off. Which brings me to my lone wolf advice...
If the solo lifestyle is what you like, then do not become a specialist, and instead be a jack of all trades. You won't be the best at anything, but you will have a larger number of options to contribute what is missing as the battlefield changes. Scout, slay, hack, repair, pilot, snipe, forge, etc. Lone wolves are most effective at helping teams win when they can adapt to what is going on.
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San General Tso's Alliance
3578
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Posted - 2014.09.16 19:24:00 -
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Atiim wrote:I'm not trying be inflammatory, but their tankers are pretty terrible.
All you have to do to stop them is shoot the first volley of your Swarm backwards, then fire the next ones forward. Usually they'll just sit there thinking that their reps can bring them back to enough HP to get a few more kills before having to retreat, but then they get ripped open like a can of Sardines.
Someone needs to tell them that Armor Reps don't work fare well against Swarm Launchers. As an AVer who almost always runs solo, I'd say that you should generally run with a Methana to get you from place to place w/o being interrupted by Infantry.
Fit a 20GJ Particle Cannon and an Amplifier and you can down their Dropship. Just be sure to aim at their engines in the back, or if they're skill stacking like a scrub then aim at the Bay Doors. Actually my tank can rep any swarmer as long as there's only one.. 2 forges without other AV but I prefer dropping 40+ kills in my assault suit
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Savage Mangler
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
115
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Posted - 2014.09.16 20:15:00 -
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Nothing a proto FG can't solve. Or basic RE's and packed AV nades.
-YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED-
"Good, then they'll know who killed them."
Keep your knives sharp....and your wits sharper.
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Meee One
Hello Kitty Logistics
1145
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Posted - 2014.09.16 20:47:00 -
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Bright Steel wrote:So I do have to say they did a great job of locking down the entire map with 3 tanks and DS in amaar vrs minmatar FW the other day, gg and great job.
With the niceties out of the way, how do you counter them???
A good squad with av and escorts ( because they had just enough infantry support as well) could hurt them but I often run solo now that my corp and alliance chats are usually almost empty. What solo tactics could allow me to accomplish something. I run all minmatar by the way.
Any suggestions??? Nyain San are still a thing?
I hardly see them anymore.
Was banned for fighting for logistics survival on 7/25/2014 02:11. Logistics will never be respected.
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Atiim
12200
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Posted - 2014.09.16 21:07:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote: Actually my tank can rep any swarmer as long as there's only one.
Care to make a wager?
The 1st Matari Commando
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Mike De Luca
STOP TRYING TO RECRUIT ME
307
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Posted - 2014.09.16 21:43:00 -
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Orphan Shadow wrote:If the solo lifestyle is what you like, then do not become a specialist, and instead be a jack of all trades. You won't be the best at anything, but you will have a larger number of options to contribute what is missing as the battlefield changes. Scout, slay, hack, repair, pilot, snipe, forge, etc. Lone wolves are most effective at helping teams win when they can adapt to what is going on.
This, best advice for a lone wolf ever. Also the single reason why I've yet to fully proto a role lol
But back on topic, the best way to handle Nyain solo is for infantry fully damped scout with res, they almost always come in with a full six squad with a logi, at least, 2 scouts (light assault fit) n 2 heavies, last member could go either way between a scout or heavy.
Vehicles, an assault forge gun n somewhere high usually can drive them off, if not kill them. Preferably in a caldari sentinel so you can heal before they come back for round 2 if you can't get em......no Atiim, we're not all on your level on swarm skill haha.
what i think of when charging fg
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Onesimus Tarsus
is-a-Corporation
2630
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Posted - 2014.09.17 00:28:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:I will tell you this, fighting against them on the ground using standard gear WILL make you a better player. It will also be highly frustrating but when you kill their lovely proto with your bpo`s..... it is a nice feeling if uncommon. Now if they weren't playing proto for practically zippo investment compared to bank account balance, I'd feel something. As is, they are in their standard gear/bpo.
Sig removed to highlight apathy.
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Celestial Fire
Superior Genetics
2
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Posted - 2014.09.17 00:57:00 -
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Bradric Banewolf wrote:Get a squad of ...
Sadly, this for best results.
"Solo" tactics are by default at a disadvantage against a communication-ready organized corp squad, and if you start being overly clever it will just attract the entire squad at once to "deal" with you if you don't have backup. |
Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
4925
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Posted - 2014.09.17 01:11:00 -
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:: Sees three tanks, one ADS :: :: Leaves battle ::
- Proficiency 5 Swarms (53M SP)
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
2039
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Posted - 2014.09.17 01:31:00 -
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Bright Steel wrote:So I do have to say they did a great job of locking down the entire map with 3 tanks and DS in amaar vrs minmatar FW the other day, gg and great job.
With the niceties out of the way, how do you counter them???
A good squad with av and escorts ( because they had just enough infantry support as well) could hurt them but I often run solo now that my corp and alliance chats are usually almost empty. What solo tactics could allow me to accomplish something. I run all minmatar by the way.
Any suggestions???
Fly to Japan and pee on their Playstations.
Brick tanking a scout suit since April 2013!
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