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Flighter1990
Energy Troops
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Posted - 2014.09.16 06:56:00 -
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So Nova Kinves are powerful weapon, but its ofent useless because there are much better shotgun. So its can be good if Nova Knives can be used when you run, without stopping. |
RedPencil
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.09.16 08:19:00 -
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NO!
Beware paper cut M[;..;]M
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
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Posted - 2014.09.16 11:45:00 -
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Flighter1990 wrote:So Nova Kinves are powerful weapon, but its ofent useless because there are much better shotgun. So its can be good if Nova Knives can be used when you run, without stopping.
Skill up, you can get your charge time low enough that you are basically doing a hit and run.
I did it just the other night, charged the objective while cloaked, knifed a logi in the face before he could rez his bluedot and then I turned and faced off with an Assault (who didn't even get a shot off) before I hacked the objective. It was over in a matter of seconds.
"Heres the deal, in the 40s there was Normandy today you got punks, some need culling real bad." --Truth
Logi for Hire
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Right-wing Extremist
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2014.09.16 11:58:00 -
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NK now = skill and finesse
NK with run-charge = OP
No run-charge.
Even the majority of knifers don't want this.
If you wanna be a knifer, embrace the death and get good.
Jaceon Pale-eye.
And you shall know me by the sound of Charge SR bullets whizzing by your head as I miss repeatedly.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
4905
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Posted - 2014.09.16 12:16:00 -
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^ What he said. Sprint Charge would be too good and too easy.
Practice charging in air while jumping at your target. You can get better forward momentum this way. Just hope your target doesn't change trajectory ... cause then you're screwed :-)
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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Meee One
Hello Kitty Logistics
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Posted - 2014.09.16 21:33:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Flighter1990 wrote:So Nova Kinves are powerful weapon, but its ofent useless because there are much better shotgun. So its can be good if Nova Knives can be used when you run, without stopping. Skill up, you can get your charge time low enough that you are basically doing a hit and run. I did it just the other night, charged the objective while cloaked, knifed a logi in the face before he could rez his bluedot and then I turned and faced off with an Assault (who didn't even get a shot off) before I hacked the objective. It was over in a matter of seconds.
And some people wonder why scouts can do an assaults job better.
Scouts are supposed to be assassins,not be brazen enough to attack head on.
Was banned for fighting for logistics survival on 7/25/2014 02:11. Logistics will never be respected.
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
2139
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Posted - 2014.09.17 00:11:00 -
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Meee One wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Flighter1990 wrote:So Nova Kinves are powerful weapon, but its ofent useless because there are much better shotgun. So its can be good if Nova Knives can be used when you run, without stopping. Skill up, you can get your charge time low enough that you are basically doing a hit and run. I did it just the other night, charged the objective while cloaked, knifed a logi in the face before he could rez his bluedot and then I turned and faced off with an Assault (who didn't even get a shot off) before I hacked the objective. It was over in a matter of seconds. And some people wonder why scouts can do an assaults job better. Scouts are supposed to be assassins,not be brazen enough to attack head on.
Are you really reading what I typed?
I mean, first off, I tend to not GAF and secondly I didn't so much "attack head on" as I assassinated a medic and then his bodyguard who was startled by the fact that I just appeared in front of him.
I underlined something I think you may have missed.
"Heres the deal, in the 40s there was Normandy today you got punks, some need culling real bad." --Truth
Logi for Hire
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Alena Ventrallis
Vengeance Unbound
Dark Taboo
1765
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Posted - 2014.09.17 01:08:00 -
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I would rather you can slash without stopping the sprint.
Listen to my muscle memory
Contemplate what I've been clinging to
Forty-six and two ahead of me
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
9413
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Posted - 2014.09.17 03:45:00 -
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Right-wing Extremist wrote:NK now = skill and finesse
NK with run-charge = OP
No run-charge.
Even the majority of knifers don't want this.
If you wanna be a knifer, embrace the death and get good.
I remember a long time ago I wanted CCP to implement the ability to sprint while charging because at the time, when it existed as a glitch, it didn't make the knives OP but rather complimented. However, many things about the knives have changed. The damage output per tier is more in line with the Ishukones, effective distance -- which is equal to the NK's absolute distance in this case -- has been buffed by 0.5m to 2.5m, the time between slashes has been reduced, you can deal damage to vehicles now, and they are still the only sidearms that can deal shield and armor damage equally. Because of this, chasing targets that are sprinting away from you is easier now because you don't have to be within love-making distance anymore to effectively stab them. Overall, sprinting while charging is just no longer needed and will only serve to make them OP and thus give ammunition to the nerf herders out there.
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jace silencerww
Inner.Hell
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Posted - 2014.09.17 04:15:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Right-wing Extremist wrote:NK now = skill and finesse
NK with run-charge = OP
No run-charge.
Even the majority of knifers don't want this.
If you wanna be a knifer, embrace the death and get good. I remember a long time ago I wanted CCP to implement the ability to sprint while charging because at the time, when it existed as a glitch, it didn't make the knives OP but rather complimented. However, many things about the knives have changed. The damage output per tier is more in line with the Ishukones, effective distance -- which is equal to the NK's absolute distance in this case -- has been buffed by 0.5m to 2.5m, the time between slashes has been reduced, you can deal damage to vehicles now, and they are still the only sidearms that can deal shield and armor damage equally. Because of this, chasing targets that are sprinting away from you is easier now because you don't have to be within love-making distance anymore to effectively stab them. Overall, sprinting while charging is just no longer needed and will only serve to make them OP and thus give ammunition to the nerf herders out there.
lol first the range buff was from 2 meters to 2.25 meters just the hit detection was improved. second damaging a vehicle is fine but when it blows up it does 500 damage so it will be death for most scouts. oh and here is more reasons not to have the sprinting charged nk - the sprinting while charged nk on well then you kill any reason for the Minnie scout (beside a quick hack on a point). Minnie scouts move faster in both movement and sprint to chase down targets and bonus to the nk to kill them. btw if I remember right the glitch was back when gall scout were the only scouts. oh and it is the ONLY weapon out of all of them to keep the same damage to both shield and armor. if you want to be a good/great knifer use the Minnie scouts and prepare to die a lot. |
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Meee One
Hello Kitty Logistics
1147
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Posted - 2014.09.17 05:03:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Meee One wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Flighter1990 wrote:So Nova Kinves are powerful weapon, but its ofent useless because there are much better shotgun. So its can be good if Nova Knives can be used when you run, without stopping. Skill up, you can get your charge time low enough that you are basically doing a hit and run. I did it just the other night, charged the objective while cloaked, knifed a logi in the face before he could rez his bluedot and then I turned and faced off with an Assault (who didn't even get a shot off) before I hacked the objective. It was over in a matter of seconds. And some people wonder why scouts can do an assaults job better. Scouts are supposed to be assassins,not be brazen enough to attack head on. Are you really reading what I typed? I mean, first off, I tend to not GAF and secondly I didn't so much "attack head on" as I assassinated a medic and then his bodyguard who was startled by the fact that I just appeared in front of him. I underlined something I think you may have missed.
So,you're confessing the decloak animation lasted so long you could charge your KN 2 times,and get kills?
+1 witness for manual decloak and decloak animation delay right here.
Was banned for fighting for logistics survival on 7/25/2014 02:11. Logistics will never be respected.
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
2140
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Posted - 2014.09.17 12:14:00 -
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Meee One wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Meee One wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Flighter1990 wrote:So Nova Kinves are powerful weapon, but its ofent useless because there are much better shotgun. So its can be good if Nova Knives can be used when you run, without stopping. Skill up, you can get your charge time low enough that you are basically doing a hit and run. I did it just the other night, charged the objective while cloaked, knifed a logi in the face before he could rez his bluedot and then I turned and faced off with an Assault (who didn't even get a shot off) before I hacked the objective. It was over in a matter of seconds. And some people wonder why scouts can do an assaults job better. Scouts are supposed to be assassins,not be brazen enough to attack head on. Are you really reading what I typed? I mean, first off, I tend to not GAF and secondly I didn't so much "attack head on" as I assassinated a medic and then his bodyguard who was startled by the fact that I just appeared in front of him. I underlined something I think you may have missed. So,you're confessing the decloak animation lasted so long you could charge your KN 2 times,and get kills? +1 witness for manual decloak and decloak animation delay right here.
lol, confessing
If you search my post history for posts about cloaks, you'll find that I am now and have always felt they were terribly implemented (they should work the same as Eeve if for no reason other than consistency).
Personally I think the Eve method is superior for our needs anyway.
"Heres the deal, in the 40s there was Normandy today you got punks, some need culling real bad." --Truth
Logi for Hire
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Demon Buddah
Pure Evil.
223
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Posted - 2014.09.17 14:51:00 -
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Jump. Charge. I knife, I don't want sprinting and charge, it would make the knives OP. They are fine as is. Leave em be |
Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
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Posted - 2014.09.17 15:25:00 -
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There good as they are (37 kills with nk in one match). Just skill in to reduse charge time and and fit kinkat mods to reach target faster
37 kills with nova knives
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Flighter1990
Energy Troops
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Posted - 2014.09.19 17:43:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:I would rather you can slash without stopping the sprint.
I have in mind actually this. Not charging when running, but slashing. |
Maur'ce Brutar
Merry and Hell
2
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Posted - 2014.09.19 18:32:00 -
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Right-wing Extremist wrote:NK now = skill and finesse
NK with run-charge = OP
No run-charge.
Even the majority of knifers don't want this.
If you wanna be a knifer, embrace the death and get good.
Nothing left to be said.
Loving that line right there; "Embrace the death"
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