I started about a week ago, and I have about 900K SP lifetime, my fav weapon being the Magsec SMG (I got great kills with it). And when I play the game, it's boring.... the skill points tree is boring (you need over 10 million to get everything, in one week I get 900K), dying over and over again because of Proto/Advanced people on the pub matches, vehicles (for ****'s sake) are damn annoying, the game is unbalanced as ****!
I even think the game slipped past testing due to how unbalanced it is! CCP, fix your game!
Newbies to the game will be ****** really hard and I don't see it as fair. I mean, they're new to the game atleast give them a good first impression. The maps are long as hell, if you're in a open area, you might as well kill yourself first, because those Proto/Advanced Snipers are aiming at you, waiting for the time to strike. If not snipers, the other 7 tanks after your ass.
There should be more gamemodes, free-for-all, deathmatch (Ambush in this game, but it's not really deathmatch, but rather Team Deathmatch.... and with the spawn killing, you're damn dead). The maps aren't really good. They're a little bit too huge for 32 people, make it atleast 64 people.
The game just became boring... like Jesus Christ even COD is less boring and we can all agree it kills a lot of games and is total ****. Even Battlefield: Glitch Edition is better.
That's all I have to say, it just became boring... they should atleast make SP really easy to get...
I will keep playing it because I'm currently waiting for a game so I can get it.

your post is boring.

Hi.

I have been playing since beta and although i no longer have to grind for anything, i know exactly what you are saying.


I cover precisely what you are saying here https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=175259&find=unread

Your feedback would be most appreciated, people just aren't understanding that the grind in dust is 100% a joke now. It is insulting that it is expected that people are supposed to grind for a year+ for what this game has to offer regardless of how much we love it.

just hold out till after the million clone challenge.. you could easly get 1 to 3 million SP from the event.. but i do agree with the fact its hard for newbies to even get a foot in the ladder thats why myself and alt of others were for giving newbies a bonus to sp gain till they are like 10m sp or something.

and even tho i can use adv and some proto i seem to like running standard more.. i could perhaps question your SP spending as caldari suits are bad because of Flux nades and how OP scrambers are atm.. amarr or gallente assault is usually a nice starting point as its got armor amount and slots for more armor or reps ( i like 2/1 or 3/1 on std/adv gallente myself) as for weapons.. the Rail rifle and smg would go a long way for you atm. and dont play like cod! that guarentees death and so does standing still (snipers) cover, dodge n weave, flank, gank, assist to burn down heavy targets, have an AV equipped suit at hand (assault with swarm SMG AV nades douple rep+plate light damage mod in highs.. and nanite hive in equip)

I saw it, agree 100%. They should lower the grinding :|

hi, i'm new at this game and getting killed by people who have been playing it for years, the same thing that happens to new people in every other single competitive video game genre out there. after a week of playing i shouldn't have to still need to learn the game mechanics, squad mechanics or maps, i played COD so i expect to be good at all other shooters.

Apparently, in this game, the skills you learn in FPS's are now against you. I am glad I didn't play any FPS so far though. But I think that if you keep playing, you will do well at the game.

Yeah.

It used to be justified when dust had major potential but it doesn't now and the current grinding simply excludes new players in many ways.

You will yeah but you have a looooooong way to go before you have things maxed and enough isk to run proto rain or shine.

A lot of new players simply get bored before they even get there.

In all seriousness, how much entertainment you want when you've been playing FPS games for so long? And you can play more than one game you know.

I think the whole potential is lost now. PL will be a Dust 514 for the PC, and if it will be EXACTLY the same as Dust 514, PC players WON'T enjoy it.... it might teach them to not yell "PC MASTER RACE" every damn time someone mentions consoles.

I started about a week ago, and... the game is boring

I started about a week ago, and I have about 900K SP lifetime, my fav weapon being the Magsec SMG (I got great kills with it). And when I play the game, it's boring.... the skill points tree is boring (you need over 10 million to get everything, in one week I get 900K), dying over and over again because of Proto/Advanced people on the pub matches, vehicles (for ****'s sake) are damn annoying, the game is unbalanced as ****!
I even think the game slipped past testing due to how unbalanced it is! CCP, fix your game!
Newbies to the game will be ****** really hard and I don't see it as fair. I mean, they're new to the game atleast give them a good first impression. The maps are long as hell, if you're in a open area, you might as well kill yourself first, because those Proto/Advanced Snipers are aiming at you, waiting for the time to strike. If not snipers, the other 7 tanks after your ass.
There should be more gamemodes, free-for-all, deathmatch (Ambush in this game, but it's not really deathmatch, but rather Team Deathmatch.... and with the spawn killing, you're damn dead). The maps aren't really good. They're a little bit too huge for 32 people, make it atleast 64 people.
The game just became boring... like Jesus Christ even COD is less boring and we can all agree it kills a lot of games and is total ****. Even Battlefield: Glitch Edition is better.
That's all I have to say, it just became boring... they should atleast make SP really easy to get...
I will keep playing it because I'm currently waiting for a game so I can get it.

A fair point but it's like saying "oh you like dust that much that you want to play it often?, well fk you".

If the sensitivity levels are high then yea. But still FPS games are repetitive as a whole. Some games stand out more than others of course.

I started about a week ago, and I have about 900K SP lifetime, my fav weapon being the Magsec SMG (I got great kills with it). And when I play the game, it's boring.... the skill points tree is boring (you need over 10 million to get everything, in one week I get 900K), dying over and over again because of Proto/Advanced people on the pub matches, vehicles (for ****'s sake) are damn annoying, the game is unbalanced as ****!
I even think the game slipped past testing due to how unbalanced it is! CCP, fix your game!
Newbies to the game will be ****** really hard and I don't see it as fair. I mean, they're new to the game atleast give them a good first impression. The maps are long as hell, if you're in a open area, you might as well kill yourself first, because those Proto/Advanced Snipers are aiming at you, waiting for the time to strike. If not snipers, the other 7 tanks after your ass.
There should be more gamemodes, free-for-all, deathmatch (Ambush in this game, but it's not really deathmatch, but rather Team Deathmatch.... and with the spawn killing, you're damn dead). The maps aren't really good. They're a little bit too huge for 32 people, make it atleast 64 people.
The game just became boring... like Jesus Christ even COD is less boring and we can all agree it kills a lot of games and is total ****. Even Battlefield: Glitch Edition is better.
That's all I have to say, it just became boring... they should atleast make SP really easy to get...
I will keep playing it because I'm currently waiting for a game so I can get it.

your post is boring.

The maps are long as hell, if you're in a open area, you might as well kill yourself first, because those Proto/Advanced Snipers are aiming at you, waiting for the time to strike.

I started about a week ago, and I have about 900K SP lifetime, my fav weapon being the Magsec SMG (I got great kills with it). And when I play the game, it's boring.... the skill points tree is boring (you need over 10 million to get everything, in one week I get 900K), dying over and over again because of Proto/Advanced people on the pub matches, vehicles (for ****'s sake) are damn annoying, the game is unbalanced as ****!
I even think the game slipped past testing due to how unbalanced it is! CCP, fix your game!
Newbies to the game will be ****** really hard and I don't see it as fair. I mean, they're new to the game atleast give them a good first impression. The maps are long as hell, if you're in a open area, you might as well kill yourself first, because those Proto/Advanced Snipers are aiming at you, waiting for the time to strike. If not snipers, the other 7 tanks after your ass.
There should be more gamemodes, free-for-all, deathmatch (Ambush in this game, but it's not really deathmatch, but rather Team Deathmatch.... and with the spawn killing, you're damn dead). The maps aren't really good. They're a little bit too huge for 32 people, make it atleast 64 people.
The game just became boring... like Jesus Christ even COD is less boring and we can all agree it kills a lot of games and is total ****. Even Battlefield: Glitch Edition is better.
That's all I have to say, it just became boring... they should atleast make SP really easy to get...
I will keep playing it because I'm currently waiting for a game so I can get it.

I think it will be this week, or the next one. I don't think I'll be able to play since University starts tomorrow for me, and I can see I'll be very busy. But I hope to get the SP.

Never played CoD, so I won't act like a CoD player :D
I will waste my SP in good stuff first though.

I started about a week ago, and I have about 900K SP lifetime, my fav weapon being the Magsec SMG (I got great kills with it). And when I play the game, it's boring.... the skill points tree is boring (you need over 10 million to get everything, in one week I get 900K), dying over and over again because of Proto/Advanced people on the pub matches, vehicles (for ****'s sake) are damn annoying, the game is unbalanced as ****!
I even think the game slipped past testing due to how unbalanced it is! CCP, fix your game!
Newbies to the game will be ****** really hard and I don't see it as fair. I mean, they're new to the game atleast give them a good first impression. The maps are long as hell, if you're in a open area, you might as well kill yourself first, because those Proto/Advanced Snipers are aiming at you, waiting for the time to strike. If not snipers, the other 7 tanks after your ass.
There should be more gamemodes, free-for-all, deathmatch (Ambush in this game, but it's not really deathmatch, but rather Team Deathmatch.... and with the spawn killing, you're damn dead). The maps aren't really good. They're a little bit too huge for 32 people, make it atleast 64 people.
The game just became boring... like Jesus Christ even COD is less boring and we can all agree it kills a lot of games and is total ****. Even Battlefield: Glitch Edition is better.
That's all I have to say, it just became boring... they should atleast make SP really easy to get...
I will keep playing it because I'm currently waiting for a game so I can get it.

Ahoy!

how is battlefield any different or the many other FPS out there- you "stand out in the open and get sniped" (i stopped reading rant after this) ... is this your first FPS?

You are about 1 year to late for this kinda stuff. There wont be new weapons, maps, suits etc. cause big updates like that are not going to happend. They basically sopped developing content for this game so i would recommend looking for a other game.

I started about a week ago, and I have about 900K SP lifetime, my fav weapon being the Magsec SMG (I got great kills with it). And when I play the game, it's boring.... the skill points tree is boring (you need over 10 million to get everything, in one week I get 900K), dying over and over again because of Proto/Advanced people on the pub matches, vehicles (for ****'s sake) are damn annoying, the game is unbalanced as ****!
I even think the game slipped past testing due to how unbalanced it is! CCP, fix your game!
Newbies to the game will be ****** really hard and I don't see it as fair. I mean, they're new to the game atleast give them a good first impression. The maps are long as hell, if you're in a open area, you might as well kill yourself first, because those Proto/Advanced Snipers are aiming at you, waiting for the time to strike. If not snipers, the other 7 tanks after your ass.
There should be more gamemodes, free-for-all, deathmatch (Ambush in this game, but it's not really deathmatch, but rather Team Deathmatch.... and with the spawn killing, you're damn dead). The maps aren't really good. They're a little bit too huge for 32 people, make it atleast 64 people.
The game just became boring... like Jesus Christ even COD is less boring and we can all agree it kills a lot of games and is total ****. Even Battlefield: Glitch Edition is better.
That's all I have to say, it just became boring... they should atleast make SP really easy to get...
I will keep playing it because I'm currently waiting for a game so I can get it.

Ahoy!

Teamwork is an important part of DUST 514, and could very well bring back the fun in your game-play. Try finding like minded Mercenaries, and band together in a squad. Try joining a Corporation, find good chat-channels, and communicate with others. I can recommend the DevHangout channel, where I am constantly harassed with feature and fix ideas - I do admit, some of them are legit and make sense - and where I also join squads to jump in battle.

Try new weapons, new Dropsuits, new styles until you find the non-boring ones, Militia items allow you to do so without spending SP.

Also, here a good opportunity for a quick SP boost:

The Million Clone Challenge Returns!

Look battle Academy was EXTREME lazy implementation and personifies CCP Shanghai. Then we get to it not being touched in what...8 months+?

Battle Academy has 2 quests... One is making a suit fitting, One is joining a match. If you do good in that match? It kicks you out to Face me and 2 year Vets, People who have conquered all of PC, Won several 1st places in the Only tournaments DUST has had.

Why isn't there an actual intuitive quest process implemented in the Battle academy, So we Vet's can get some competant blueberries that know the general game. And new players can actually have a Developed and thought out new player learning curve.

No new player should leave the Battle academy without doing a quest for :

Using a Nanohive and having 2 different players take ammo from it.

Using an Uplink and Have 2 team mates spawn on it.

Call in a MLT Tank and kill 1 installation and 1 player.

Call in a MLT Dropship and get transportation Warpoints.

Use a MLT Armor Repair tool.

Use the 4 MLT Rifle Variants and get a kill with each.

Hack 5+ things.

Hack an Objective and have it turn to your team.

Use an Installation to blow up a MLT Tank.(To promote the recent changes and learning around it)


New players should have significant time in a segregated new player base to do these quests.


Starting off new clones with 250k ISK is assbackward for the lessons CCP Learned with character creation on EVE online and base ISK values. And that was a game where people payed for accounts and had limitations installed on transfering money on trial accounts.

DUST? is a free to play game... And CCP suddenly forgot all the lessons learned from EVE online? Further more has left the 250k Starting ISK for a year?, Even though Chribba and Mitiani has done news reports on the New player creation ISK farm on DUST.


The entire thing reeks of just epic lazyness.


You can say new players should use an un-intuitive squad finder that has next to no learning curve or explanation in battle academy as an answer to them being somehow competitive after getting kicked out of battle academy on their 2nd match in DUST to then face a squad of myself and my peers... It's just crazy in every sense of being a game developer and wanting to gain and retain users.


It would be like EVE online letting people do 2 missions on the Tutorials then sending them off to do a Lvl 4 mission next. Or worse sending them into a Choke point entering 0.0.


Like how can anyone have pride in what they do and just leave this massive problem FOR YEARS, that nearly everyone that cares about this game has pointed out a million times on these forums....

What does it take for you guys to take action?

all i have to say is if you think cod is fun dust isnt for you go back to the game where all that matters is your kdr. Or better yet playin squads.

Says cod is more fun than dust. Then goes on to say never played cod. make up your mind flake.

became boring from broken promises dust was meant to be 48 person shooter

Send me a mail in game, I will squad up / roll with you bro and I will show you how you can have fun regardless of SP.

Ever heard of the Zerg?

I agree. Now most players are going to the PS4, or any other game that doesn't need a 7 year grind to get everything.

waiting on my pc planetside to move to ps4 lol i have pc capable of maximum stats so if legion is garbage im never touching pc gaming again ps4 all the way hells yeah

I do think the learning curve is a little harsh in this game, and there should be an added tutorial mission about faction combat/loyalty points.

You're right it isn't like cod... thank god that was one of the shittiest games I ever bought. Have you ever thought that you have a hard time because you are bad? I mean with the starter sp + loyalty points you can get a pretty epic set of skills and equipment. The game is amazing if you're board stop playing and crying and go back to what ever **** game you can win at, but my guess is you just want to cry in hopes you can get an easy way through but ccp isn't your mother.

Back in my day we would play for months memorizing every bullet in Contra through nine levels of hell just to get to the final boss and die then have to start over again.