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Ryme Intrinseca
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.15 12:12:00 -
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There seems to be some confusion about what changes are coming, which is unsurprising as Rattati's comments are hidden in several archived threads. So I thought it would be helpful to compile them.
CCP Rattati in Delta narrative thread on the 30th wrote: Rifles - tweaks to Scrambler, Assault Scrambler and Assault Rifles (plasma) ... Other Damage profiles - Projectiles (Combat Rifles, etc) to -15%, 15%, or -20/+20 from -5%, +10%
CCP Rattati in ScR thread on the 3rd wrote:Reduce Hipfire dispersion of Tactical Assault Rifle (TAR) to be closer to the Scrambler Rifle (considerable)
Reduce Hipfire Kick of TAR to be closer to Scrambler Rifle (considerable)
Increase Hipfire Kick of Scrambler Rifle to be closer to TAR (tiny)
Reduce Hipfire Kick of Gallente Assault rifle (tiny)
Reduce Hipfire Kick of Gallente Burst Assault Rifles (tiny)
Reduce Zoomed Dispersion of Gallente Breach Rifles (considerable)
Set ROF of both Scrambler and TAR to 600
Increase Hipfire Kick of Rail Rifles on second or more rapid consecutive shot, so full auto will be less accurate in CQC (some)
There are no tweaks for the Assault Scrambler as it may be suffering from Armor tanking environment, unless there is a specific reason you can find, there is nothing in the stats that says it should be.
CCP Rattati in Rifle DPS thread on the 4th wrote:The Delta tweaks are as follows
14% dmg increase of Gallente Breach Assault Rifles 2% dmg increase of Gallente Burst Assault Rifles 4% dmg increase of Assault Combat Rifles (but also increasing dispersion to counter long range accuracy) By setting the Tac AR and Scrambler Rifle at 600 ROF, those two line up rather nicely
Comments welcome, these should not be contentious changes at all given the relative UP of Gallente Rifles. So if the changes mentioned on the 4th are meant in addition to those on the 3rd, we seem to have:
AR - tiny hipfire kick reduction - OVERALL SMALL BUFF BrAR - 14% dam buff, zoom dispersion reduction - OVERALL LARGE BUFF BuAR - 2% dam buff, 'tiny' hipfire kick reduction - OVERALL MEDIUM BUFF Tac AR - RoF buff, hipfire kick reduced, hipfire dispersion decreased - OVERALL MEDIUM BUFF (large buff for turbo users) CR - damage profile nerf - OVERALL MEDIUM NERF ACR - 4% dam buff, dispersion increase, damage profile nerf - OVERALL MEDIUM NERF RR - hipfire kick increase - OVERALL MEDIUM NERF ARR - NO CHANGE ScR - RoF nerf, tiny hipfire kick increase - OVERALL SMALL NERF (medium nerf for turbo users) AScR - NO CHANGE
But it may be that only the changes mentioned on the 4th are happening, or that some totally different changes are happening. At any rate, it seems that there will be widespread changes to rifle balance, with perhaps eight out of ten buffed or nerfed. |
Reign Omega
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.15 12:50:00 -
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lol another buff to GAR.....keep em coming my numbers will be great!
The rest of it...meh numbers.
Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
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rpastry
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2014.09.15 13:12:00 -
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didnt rattati already do this with a pretty graph?
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=174569
id debate your CAPS OPINIONS on some of the changes.
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.09.15 14:52:00 -
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Yea, you probably got the memo late. But yep they are interesting changes
Archistrategos / The 7th Prime / Selah
*Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.09.15 15:05:00 -
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Oh look at that, the only reason to have a Gal Assault just disappeared.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Ryme Intrinseca
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.15 15:05:00 -
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Yes, that is one of the sources I quote. Though not the most recent one so maybe not the most reliable.
To be sure, there is an element of opinion in whether something is a major or minor nerf, for instance. But it still gives a broad impression of what will happen, i.e.:
ARs get better ARR and AScR unchanged CR, ACR, RR, and ScR get worse |
Ryme Intrinseca
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.15 15:11:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Yea, you probably got the memo late. Nope, saw that weeks ago as well as more recent stuff. Try to keep up. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.09.15 18:30:00 -
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needs MOAR
/me hands over all the pokeballs*
CPM 1
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior
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DarthPlagueis TheWise
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Posted - 2014.09.20 11:16:00 -
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ugh i guess i'll have to try the breach AR now even though i hate it
thanks this thread was useful. |
Cavani1EE7
KingBabar is a noob
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Posted - 2014.09.20 11:55:00 -
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What's the proposed damage profile of the projectile weapons? 5% -5% ? |
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DarthPlagueis TheWise
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Posted - 2014.09.20 11:58:00 -
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Cavani1EE7 wrote:What's the proposed damage profile of the projectile weapons? 5% -5% ?
no. just hope it doesnt wind up being 20/20 |
Haerr
Legio DXIV
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Posted - 2014.09.20 12:08:00 -
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DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote:Cavani1EE7 wrote:What's the proposed damage profile of the projectile weapons? 5% -5% ? no. just hope it doesnt wind up being 20/20
-15%, +15% |
Cavani1EE7
FACTI0N WARFARE ARMY
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Posted - 2014.09.20 12:23:00 -
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Haerr wrote:DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote:Cavani1EE7 wrote:What's the proposed damage profile of the projectile weapons? 5% -5% ? no. just hope it doesnt wind up being 20/20 -15%, +15%
Finally a reason to shield tank for the peasants |
DarthPlagueis TheWise
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Posted - 2014.09.20 12:29:00 -
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Cavani1EE7 wrote:Finally a reason to shield tank for the peasants
it wont just be for peasants it will be very powerful |
Cavani1EE7
FACTI0N WARFARE ARMY
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Posted - 2014.09.20 13:19:00 -
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DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote:Cavani1EE7 wrote:Finally a reason to shield tank for the peasants it wont just be for peasants it will be very powerful
Alias as it should be. I remind you that this little tweak won't break the gap between shield tanking and armor tanking yet. |
Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.09.20 13:25:00 -
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Looks like I won't be jumped by rr users in cqc when running lr anymore oh my what will the scrubs do if they can't close to cqc with their LONG RANGE rifle. Oh wait i guess they'll have to learn their role lol
no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave
When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
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