DUST Search - what is actually getting buffed on the Assault Rifle?

Sgt Kirk wrote:

The True Inferno wrote:

I still find it stupid how short ranged the AR is (still love it though) and hate this idea of how its 'supposed to be a high DPS extremely close range weapon', but as it stands, you can't get close enough to your enemy to be able to do any damage and other weapons have very close DPS (this does not mean it need damage instead of range!) , as all other weapons have 20+ meters on it and even have better hip-fire, so when in CQC, all other weapons seem to out perform it. I

Currently, ALL (disclude the shotgun) Galentte weapons need huge buffs, and how things are now with the starter fits getting full racial weapons and pistols, the Gal starter fit is going to be heavily under ranged.

I also find it stupid how 7500 years in the future some rifles have shorter ranges than current-age weapons (even muskets).

The weapons we use on our clones are specialised weapons meant to take down the armor of these heavily augmented drop suit soldiers.

At least that what CCP said once upon a time. Now I'm not sure if these are civilian weapons or not, one description from CCP says yes, the other hints that mortals use the same weapons too.

Either I'm missing something or CCP doesn't even know the lore of their own weapons.

But I digress, I completely agree that all Gallente weapons outside of the shotgun need buffs, and even then, the shotgun hit detection could use some work.

CCP Can't seem to get it through their head that if a weapon can only operate in a specific range, it damn well better outperform any like weapons that get in it's range.

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Kin Cat Another Clone in the Wall 112	Posted - 2014.09.14 22:38:00 - [1] - Quote i kept asking in the discussion threads and no one ******* answered
Cheydinhal Guard Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 197	Posted - 2014.09.14 22:39:00 - [2] - Quote Breach AR is getting a damage buff. Sure blueberry. Go ahead and throw yourself at that HMG heavy. I believe in you!
Syeven Reed Sebiestor Field Sappers 862	Posted - 2014.09.14 22:39:00 - [3] - Quote It's going from 3.99 damage to 4!!!! Word Crimes EvE - 21 Day Buddy Trial
Kin Cat Another Clone in the Wall 112	Posted - 2014.09.14 22:50:00 - [4] - Quote Cheydinhal Guard wrote: Breach AR is getting a damage buff. i ******* knew it i knew they were short changing the regular AR EDIT: are you sure? they kept saying there were dispersion and kick changes
BL4CKST4R La Muerte Eterna Dark Taboo 3077	Posted - 2014.09.14 23:03:00 - [5] - Quote All of them except the one that sucks the most, it's OK the breach ar will be a beast. But unless the every weapon that has longer range than the ar gets a nerf in cqc the ar will always suck unless they buff to monstrous levels supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
Kin Cat Another Clone in the Wall 112	Posted - 2014.09.14 23:08:00 - [6] - Quote looks like i better buckle down and get a new light weapon oh well. destiny will ease my pain
Duke Noobiam S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance 155	Posted - 2014.09.14 23:13:00 - [7] - Quote Dude, there's a whole thread about it in the features and ideas forum. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=174569&find=unread How do you kill that which has no life?
Kin Cat Another Clone in the Wall 112	Posted - 2014.09.14 23:19:00 - [8] - Quote Duke Noobiam wrote: Dude, there's a whole thread about it in the features and ideas forum. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=174569&find=unread I know but you see how he links to the ScR thread about dispersion tweaks? Then I go to that thread and there's nothing about the AR in it? I was hoping there'd be a dispersion buff on the AR because apparently the main problem of the weapon is some of the bullets aren't hitting the target even if you're aiming right.
Arcturis Vanguard Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 308	Posted - 2014.09.15 01:14:00 - [9] - Quote Kin Cat wrote: i kept asking in the discussion threads and no one ******* answered Hopefully by the time balancing is completed every other gun will essentially be identical copies of each other but with different names :) Amarr Heavy V Amarr Assault V Caldari Scout V Caldari logistic IV Prof V HMG & FORGE Prof IV CR, SMG Prof III ScR
Michael Arck 5568	Posted - 2014.09.15 01:40:00 - [10] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: All of them except the one that sucks the most, it's OK the breach ar will be a beast. But unless the every weapon that has longer range than the ar gets a nerf in cqc the ar will always suck unless they buff to monstrous levels How does the AR suck in CQC? I'm really curious about this...how does it get beat out in CQC? Honestly I think that's bull. When the last time you been in a CQC with AR besides breach, honestly? Archistrategos / The 7th Prime / Selah *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain

Kin Cat Another Clone in the Wall 112	Posted - 2014.09.15 01:45:00 - [11] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: How does the AR suck in CQC? I'm really curious about this...how does it get beat out in CQC? Honestly I think that's bull. When the last time you been in a CQC with AR besides breach, honestly? two words. armor plates.
Michael Arck 5569	Posted - 2014.09.15 01:55:00 - [12] - Quote Not saying this like I'm some elite player or something, but I've been playing this game for two years and in those two years we have had armor plates. So what does armor plates have to do with CQC? You say that as if a light bulb should come on or something? I get a Duvolle and you get a RR and lets CQC. You will fall as long as the aim is good. Archistrategos / The 7th Prime / Selah *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
Joel II X Kool Kids Klub VIP 3414	Posted - 2014.09.15 02:10:00 - [13] - Quote Breach is getting an 11% damage buff. Tac is going to get a tighter dispersion for hipfire and reduced kick ~~so that those comparing the ScR to AR saying it is OP will quiet down~~. I think there is a change coming for the Burst as well, but i can't recall anything at the moment. Nothing is changing for the native version.
Tectonic Fusion 2215	Posted - 2014.09.15 02:18:00 - [14] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Not saying this like I'm some elite player or something, but I've been playing this game for two years and in those two years we have had armor plates. So what does armor plates have to do with CQC? You say that as if a light bulb should come on or something? I get a Duvolle and you get a RR and lets CQC. You will fall as long as the aim is good. Armor plates get a 10% resistance to the Assault Rifle, and you can stack the HP to alot. (GIF)
Riruodo Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 156	Posted - 2014.09.15 05:32:00 - [15] - Quote perfect!! I just recently decided to start using the breach AR. My other car is Utena
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 7559	Posted - 2014.09.15 05:45:00 - [16] - Quote Pretty much all plasma rifle variants will become a shorter ranged, higher DPS version of the "original model". Lucent Echelon -The Brightest Ranks Gallente Faction Warfare Chanel
The True Inferno Myrmidon Syndicate 58	Posted - 2014.09.15 07:50:00 - [17] - Quote I still find it stupid how short ranged the AR is (still love it though) and hate this idea of how its 'supposed to be a high DPS extremely close range weapon', but as it stands, you can't get close enough to your enemy to be able to do any damage and other weapons have very close DPS (this does not mean it need damage instead of range!) , as all other weapons have 20+ meters on it and even have better hip-fire, so when in CQC, all other weapons seem to out perform it. I Currently, ALL (disclude the shotgun) Galentte weapons need huge buffs, and how things are now with the starter fits getting full racial weapons and pistols, the Gal starter fit is going to be heavily under ranged. I also find it stupid how 7500 years in the future some rifles have shorter ranges than current-age weapons (even muskets). ScP = GÖÑ If you like chiptune An Ace Pilot
DarthPlagueis TheWise 1	Posted - 2014.09.15 07:52:00 - [18] - Quote duvolle AR holds up a "will work for food" sign
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 7560	Posted - 2014.09.15 08:20:00 - [19] - Quote The True Inferno wrote: I still find it stupid how short ranged the AR is (still love it though) and hate this idea of how its 'supposed to be a high DPS extremely close range weapon', but as it stands, you can't get close enough to your enemy to be able to do any damage and other weapons have very close DPS (this does not mean it need damage instead of range!) , as all other weapons have 20+ meters on it and even have better hip-fire, so when in CQC, all other weapons seem to out perform it. I Currently, ALL (disclude the shotgun) Galentte weapons need huge buffs, and how things are now with the starter fits getting full racial weapons and pistols, the Gal starter fit is going to be heavily under ranged. I also find it stupid how 7500 years in the future some rifles have shorter ranges than current-age weapons (even muskets). The weapons we use on our clones are specialised weapons meant to take down the armor of these heavily augmented drop suit soldiers. At least that what CCP said once upon a time. Now I'm not sure if these are civilian weapons or not, one description from CCP says yes, the other hints that mortals use the same weapons too. Either I'm missing something or CCP doesn't even know the lore of their own weapons. But I digress, I completely agree that all Gallente weapons outside of the shotgun need buffs, and even then, the shotgun hit detection could use some work. CCP Can't seem to get it through their head that if a weapon can only operate in a specific range, it damn well better outperform any like weapons that get in it's range. Lucent Echelon -The Brightest Ranks Gallente Faction Warfare Chanel
DarthPlagueis TheWise 3	Posted - 2014.09.15 08:55:00 - [20] - Quote lol eve lore

The True Inferno Myrmidon Syndicate 58	Posted - 2014.09.15 08:57:00 - [21] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: The True Inferno wrote: I still find it stupid how short ranged the AR is (still love it though) and hate this idea of how its 'supposed to be a high DPS extremely close range weapon', but as it stands, you can't get close enough to your enemy to be able to do any damage and other weapons have very close DPS (this does not mean it need damage instead of range!) , as all other weapons have 20+ meters on it and even have better hip-fire, so when in CQC, all other weapons seem to out perform it. I Currently, ALL (disclude the shotgun) Galentte weapons need huge buffs, and how things are now with the starter fits getting full racial weapons and pistols, the Gal starter fit is going to be heavily under ranged. I also find it stupid how 7500 years in the future some rifles have shorter ranges than current-age weapons (even muskets). The weapons we use on our clones are specialised weapons meant to take down the armor of these heavily augmented drop suit soldiers. At least that what CCP said once upon a time. Now I'm not sure if these are civilian weapons or not, one description from CCP says yes, the other hints that mortals use the same weapons too. Either I'm missing something or CCP doesn't even know the lore of their own weapons. But I digress, I completely agree that all Gallente weapons outside of the shotgun need buffs, and even then, the shotgun hit detection could use some work. CCP Can't seem to get it through their head that if a weapon can only operate in a specific range, it damn well better outperform any like weapons that get in it's range. Definitely agreed, but wonder, if the AR is also a civilian weapon, wouldn't its heat kill them, I remember hearing that a Dropsuit protects a user from heat and kick among other things from weapons, so the AR, RR and SR cannot be civilian weapons, only civilian weapons that can be/ I know ofI know could be are the CR and the MK25 Gauss rifle. ScP = GÖÑ If you like chiptune An Ace Pilot
The True Inferno Myrmidon Syndicate 58	Posted - 2014.09.15 08:59:00 - [22] - Quote Oh yeah, watching the vid for the MK25 Gauss rifle rifle and it says it has a 640m effective range, 640M! on a CIVILIAN WEAPON (reading templare 1) Thats great for lore! ScP = GÖÑ If you like chiptune An Ace Pilot
BL4CKST4R La Muerte Eterna Dark Taboo 3078	Posted - 2014.09.15 10:31:00 - [23] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: BL4CKST4R wrote: All of them except the one that sucks the most, it's OK the breach ar will be a beast. But unless the every weapon that has longer range than the ar gets a nerf in cqc the ar will always suck unless they buff to monstrous levels How does the AR suck in CQC? I'm really curious about this...how does it get beat out in CQC? Honestly I think that's bull. When the last time you been in a CQC with AR besides breach, honestly? Hmm it's been a while since I switched to the RR since it is a better cqc weapon, but every once in a while I fit in my duvolle to remind me again why the rr is better and so far I still use the rr. But to answer your question it is because it's hipfire and dispersion suck, than even with a proto gal a rr or cr has tighter dispersion. Also because the low damage per shot and that most people strafe most of your shots will miss so you lose a lot of your damage per clip quickly. supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
TOOMANY NAMES ALREADYTAKEn Going for the gold 149	Posted - 2014.09.15 11:27:00 - [24] - Quote The AR is a real shield killer, not so good against armor but I feel like it's in the right place now. 32 kills with militia shotgun. OP? naaaaaah
Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 887	Posted - 2014.09.15 12:54:00 - [25] - Quote DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote: lol eve lore lol star wars lore. Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
Ryme Intrinseca Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1848	Posted - 2014.09.15 13:05:00 - [26] - Quote Kin Cat wrote: i kept asking in the discussion threads and no one ******* answered See here.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 5946	Posted - 2014.11.16 05:44:00 - [27] - Quote TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: The AR is a real shield killer, not so good against armor but I feel like it's in the right place now. It's in a terrible place. It's practically in the Bastille before the French Revolution. So hell. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.


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