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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kyoudai Furinkazan
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Posted - 2014.09.13 21:22:00 -
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You have a mode that is unplayable because you have Caldari , that is riddled with team killing and team killing squads .. players who seem to put forth no effort in offensive or defensive department and for the most part , take up space and waste time by doing nothing but clogging up game space and making this mode unplayable for those who would love to put forth some effort , for the Caldari faction .
It's bad enough that I have to use a Sentinel that has low armor HP's with one low slot and no projectile defensive bonus to shield or armor and the HMG is a heavy projectile weapon along with a shotgun being projectile and scouts with shotguns decimate shield heavies , this should be re-thought out .
Fix your standards to increase the penalty for those who team kill to more then a day or make it so that the person who team kills .. gives the person whom the killed , salvage from their inventory and top tier inventory at that because they stagnate the growth of a optional gaming mode and the experience for those who care about factional and the role and game play , unless it means nothing to you CCP and we as players are wasting our time in a meaningless game mode .
The sentinel comment was from a bitter caldari heavy user .
Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
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Posted - 2014.09.13 22:25:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:You have a mode that is unplayable because you have Caldari , that is riddled with team killing and team killing squads .. players who seem to put forth no effort in offensive or defensive department and for the most part , take up space and waste time by doing nothing but clogging up game space and making this mode unplayable for those who would love to put forth some effort , for the Caldari faction .
It's bad enough that I have to use a Sentinel that has low armor HP's with one low slot and no projectile defensive bonus to shield or armor and the HMG is a heavy projectile weapon along with a shotgun being projectile and scouts with shotguns decimate shield heavies , this should be re-thought out .
Fix your standards to increase the penalty for those who team kill to more then a day or make it so that the person who team kills .. gives the person whom the killed , salvage from their inventory and top tier inventory at that because they stagnate the growth of a optional gaming mode and the experience for those who care about factional and the role and game play , unless it means nothing to you CCP and we as players are wasting our time in a meaningless game mode .
The sentinel comment was from a bitter caldari heavy user .
The trolls set on team killing either pop in knowing the will be back tomorrow or that they will be back on an alt. If anything it should be an increasing penalty.
Edit: The first removal should be 1 day and zero points removed to be more friendly to newbies that wonder into FW and really do not know what is going on.
1st kick = 1 day ban + 450 points 2nd kick = 1 day ban + 500 points 3rd kick = 1 day ban + 550 points
4th kick = 3 day ban + 750 points 5th kick = 3 day ban + 800 points 6th kick = 3 day ban + 850 points
7th kick = 9 day ban + 1050 points 8th kick = 9 day ban + 1100 points 9th kick = 9 day ban + 1150 points
You can continue on the pattern but the point that it is pretty clearly intentional becomes a very harsh ban and loss of points that would eventually make the trolls get sick of making new alts. |
Bahirae Serugiusu
Vendetta Reactionary Force
61
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Posted - 2014.09.14 00:54:00 -
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I'm sick of being the only person trying to even hold 1 point in Caldari FW and I can't even kill anyone just scare them off no other FW has that problem. I'd also suggest giving the faction with the lower ownership (Caldari last I saw) a bonus to the salvage we get or something to be an incentive to get better people over to play instead of the usual dingbats I end up with. 6 kills with no support gear shouldn't be the top scoring person behind a uplink spammer. |
Zindorak
1.U.P
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Posted - 2014.09.14 01:24:00 -
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Well there is nothing interesting in Cal FW if you had the Scout maybe but ATM its not very interesting
Pokemon master!
I suck at Tekken lol
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Bahirae Serugiusu
Vendetta Reactionary Force
61
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Posted - 2014.09.14 01:33:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:Well there is nothing interesting in Cal FW if you had the Scout maybe but ATM its not very interesting Swarm Launchers and snipers aren't to bad and it never hurts to buy a cheap Gunnlogi and some turrets. |
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kyoudai Furinkazan
1185
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Posted - 2014.09.14 05:48:00 -
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Bahirae Serugiusu wrote:I'm sick of being the only person trying to even hold 1 point in Caldari FW and I can't even kill anyone just scare them off no other FW has that problem. I'd also suggest giving the faction with the lower ownership (Caldari last I saw) a bonus to the salvage we get or something to be an incentive to get better people over to play instead of the usual dingbats I end up with. 6 kills with no support gear shouldn't be the top scoring person behind a uplink spammer. Your problem sounds like a typical game in Caldari and that's the sad part about this .
Most games that I play are the same way and it just kills the experience .
I don't have a prototype suit but I have a mods and weapons and also vehicles as well so the faction store doesn't appeal to me but I would just like to fight for the faction of the race that I am and find a decent fight now and again but in this instance that's somewhat impossible .
To many team killers and too many players who are just taking up space .
Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
4068
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Posted - 2014.09.14 18:09:00 -
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In the spirit of "git gud, scrub" the Caldari do need to get better organized. Worked for the Amarr; I can't even remember the last time I got intentionally TK'd by some idiot.
But, that won't solve everything, I suppose. Easiest fix, honestly, is to just make a WP requirement for entry. Very few people are running around on their mains griefing FW, I imagine.
It's mostly alts; it's not that hard for some fool to strap a MLT shotty on a medic starter fit and go to town after they've finished making a fresh alt to farm the starter/academy ISK.
That goes away pretty quick if you just set it so that, say, you need a few million SP before FW becomes active in the battle finder. It won't stop everyone, there are obviously plenty of people with alts with enough SP to do that.
But, if they can't just keep making new ones, it becomes tedious to keep getting banned and waiting a day, and also the names would be easier to identify because the same char would need to be used repeatedly. So, it would still happen but be a little more difficult to do.
If you ask me, though, this is New Eden, and if someone wants to go through the trouble of making a 3 million SP alt dedicated to griefing, they should be able to do so. Letting them do it with fresh alts is simply making it too easy, however.
(The godfather of tactical logistics)
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
2127
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Posted - 2014.09.14 18:13:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:You have a mode that is unplayable because you have Caldari , that is riddled with team killing and team killing squads .. players who seem to put forth no effort in offensive or the defensive department and for the most part , take up space and waste time by doing nothing but clogging up game space and making this mode unplayable for those who would love to put forth some effort , for the Caldari faction .
It's bad enough that I have to use a Sentinel that has low armor HP's with one low slot and no projectile defensive bonus to shield or armor and the HMG is a heavy projectile weapon along with a shotgun being projectile and scouts with shotguns decimate shield heavies , this should be re-thought out .
Fix your standards to increase the penalty for those who team kill to more then a day or make it so that the person who team kills .. gives the person whom they killed , salvage from their inventory and top tier salvage at that because they stagnate the growth of a optional gaming mode and the experience for those who care about factional and the role and game play , unless it means nothing to you CCP and we as players are wasting our time in a meaningless game mode .
The sentinel comment was from a bitter caldari heavy user .
Shotgun is a hybrid gallente blaster type weapon. I still hope for a minmatar trenchgun.
"Heres the deal, in the 40s there was Normandy today you got punks, some need culling real bad." --Truth
Logi for Hire
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kyoudai Furinkazan
1185
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Posted - 2014.09.14 20:32:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:In the spirit of "git gud, scrub" the Caldari do need to get better organized. Worked for the Amarr; I can't even remember the last time I got intentionally TK'd by some idiot.
But, that won't solve everything, I suppose. Easiest fix, honestly, is to just make a WP requirement for entry. Very few people are running around on their mains griefing FW, I imagine.
It's mostly alts; it's not that hard for some fool to strap a MLT shotty on a medic starter fit and go to town after they've finished making a fresh alt to farm the starter/academy ISK.
That goes away pretty quick if you just set it so that, say, you need a few million SP before FW becomes active in the battle finder. It won't stop everyone, there are obviously plenty of people with alts with enough SP to do that.
But, if they can't just keep making new ones, it becomes tedious to keep getting banned and waiting a day, and also the names would be easier to identify because the same char would need to be used repeatedly. So, it would still happen but be a little more difficult to do.
If you ask me, though, this is New Eden, and if someone wants to go through the trouble of making a 3 million SP alt dedicated to griefing, they should be able to do so. Letting them do it with fresh alts is simply making it too easy, however. I can agree with what you were saying and in fact , you opened my mind up to ideals that I hadn't had .
Thanks .
You opened my mind to other methods of exploit .
I didn't even think that deeply about this topic besides the fact of being fed up over the crap that goes on in this game mode .
Very interesting take on it .
Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
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iKILLu osborne
Z PLATOON CALDARI STATE PEACEMAKERS
304
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Posted - 2014.09.15 00:29:00 -
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come to z platoon we actually win lol i'm level 10 cal and if rattati implements the rank system he proposed you will see i'm not lying lol.
i have 167.000 lp saved for lp cal scout in delta can't wait!!
"yeah i fought the redline it took it only 13 seconds....."
fought scotty too but something went wrong
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BL4CKST4R
La Muerte Eterna Dark Taboo
3078
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Posted - 2014.09.15 00:49:00 -
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Agree with the top half although the second part is kinda qq...
supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
2780
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Posted - 2014.09.15 07:06:00 -
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So you are saying that there needs to be team deploy so actual caldari FW players can actually run matches with intent to win instead of playing russian roulette with scotty? |
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kyoudai Furinkazan
1189
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Posted - 2014.09.15 15:31:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:So you are saying that there needs to be team deploy so actual caldari FW players can actually run matches with intent to win instead of playing russian roulette with scotty? That could be a response but what about those who don't have a team to be a part of or squads for that matter . I wouldn't want to exclude " lone wolf " players but I would like to know that I'm playing with players who are trying to put forth some type of effort to win a match and it seems like this goes on in Caldari faction like clockwork .
I have played other factions and it's no where near as bad as it is with Caldari .
There needs to be a tougher punishment for those who team kill and not just a day of not being able to play in the mode and only continuing these same methods once the ban is lifted .
I would like for the killers to pay a salvage cost for there methods of top tier gear , along with a greater punishment that's longer then a 24 hour ban because that does nothing but drive away those who are trying to play this mode for the faction of their choice without going threw B.S.
Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
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