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SILENT GIANT Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 13	Posted - 2014.09.11 04:29:00 - [1] - Quote Burst hmg, cmon dammit. I have better luck going solo against a squad than 1, no gun game having, fat guy. Put full auto, unlimited clip, forge guns in the game if thats how u want guns. This is the single most deterring thing that has ever bothered me in this game. All the whining about that other crap is nothing compared to this one issue. I would rather allow a scout to fire while cloaked, at least i can see the glimmer and it still has no hp. You get what I'm saying. Of all things op that is the worst.
Heimdallr69 Nyain San General Tso's Alliance 3554	Posted - 2014.09.11 04:44:00 - [2] - Quote Truth^ this is beyond annoying. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Thurak1 Psygod9 998	Posted - 2014.09.11 04:52:00 - [3] - Quote While i will admit the burst hmg is op your insult is ridiculous. Using a burst HMG requires more gun game than using a regular hmg. Which still requires a little gun game. The burst hmg overheats pretty easy so while it will flatten most suits pretty easy i need to make sure i actually hit you. If i miss i only get a few chances before my weapon siezes for about 10 seconds in which time (for some odd reason i cant switch while its cooling off) you pretty much get a free kill while i stand there shaking my weapon.
Kaze Eyrou Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 605	Posted - 2014.09.11 05:15:00 - [4] - Quote SILENT GIANT wrote: Of all things op that is the worst. Hmmm.... SILENT GIANT wrote: Of all things, op that is the worst. And two Amarrians agreeing with a Minmatar?! Wait until GJR and True Adamdence hears about this! (Anyways, I agree with all you guys. And this is the best troll I got. I'm going to bedzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Closed Beta Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou
Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 871	Posted - 2014.09.11 07:14:00 - [5] - Quote Burst HMG was fine before, its absolute crazy now. And while I admit there is a lower learning curve for using the HMG can we at least concede that there is a difference between tiers of HMG users, while the upper echelon may be by default "bad" in terms of gun game standards, have you watched a King Thunderbolt video of him using an HMG? You can literally witness what a bad HMG user is like, almost half of his shots are off target, then he dies, and blames lag. Anyhow, yeah go ahead and change the burst back to its old ROF. Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
Meee One Hello Kitty Logistics 1126	Posted - 2014.09.11 07:42:00 - [6] - Quote Reign Omega wrote: Burst HMG was fine before, its absolute crazy now. And while I admit there is a lower learning curve for using the HMG can we at least concede that there is a difference between tiers of HMG users, while the upper echelon may be by default "bad" in terms of gun game standards, have you watched a King Thunderbolt video of him using an HMG? You can literally witness what a bad HMG user is like, almost half of his shots are off target, then he dies, and blames lag. Anyhow, yeah go ahead and change the burst back to its old ROF. Interestingly enough i don't get killed by bursts more than regular,it's actually quite rare....then again i do know when to run away. My only beef with them is they completely negate rep tool viability. Even regular allows some leeway when it comes to reps,but the burst even negates the 175hp/s core focused. I guess that's one of the main reasons they are so popular,because it's a guaranteed kill. Was banned for fighting for logistics survival on 7/25/2014 02:11. Logistics will never be respected.
Vyzion Eyri The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 2361	Posted - 2014.09.11 07:58:00 - [7] - Quote Not sure if you guys have seen this already: Hotfix Delta - Burst HMG Changes Might want to head over and drop in your two cents, rather than insulting the gun game of heavies. They had their ****** days; as a logi I remember when no matter how hard I repped, my heavies just couldn't do anything against the Duvolle TAR, or ARs in general. Back when heavies had to dishonour their suits by equipping light weapons in a heavy weapon slot... > Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Thurak1 Psygod9 1001	Posted - 2014.09.11 08:19:00 - [8] - Quote Yea CCP taking out the nerfhammer. They never do seem to tweek just 1 stat or so to bring a weapon into balance. Someone needs to buy CCP a nerf screwdriver its like they are 2 years old pounding on pegs 1 side is OP the other is UP and they are the kiddo just pounding on this peg untill it i almost even on both sides.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 2712	Posted - 2014.09.11 09:59:00 - [9] - Quote Actually it's the nerf scalpel this time. Rattati is tweaking it so its overall performance is similar to the regular HMG while retaining it's unique method of fire delivery and atrocious overheat. It's being adjusted downward in Delta because even HMG gunners like myself have agreed it needs toned down. Now while you were distracted by my constructive post I have collected your tears. 38% of my quota has been met for this month. Thank you for contributing.
Bahirae Serugiusu Vendetta Reactionary Force 41	Posted - 2014.09.11 11:44:00 - [10] - Quote I really wonder if they test hotfixes before releasing them.

Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 2716	Posted - 2014.09.11 11:53:00 - [11] - Quote Test server won't be a thing till legion. That will represent the bulk of pre-release testing. Past that best they can do in internal server testing which often doesn't show how players will use an innocuous mechanic to wreck things.
Bright Steel Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 74	Posted - 2014.09.11 14:15:00 - [12] - Quote Meee One wrote: Reign Omega wrote: Burst HMG was fine before, its absolute crazy now. And while I admit there is a lower learning curve for using the HMG can we at least concede that there is a difference between tiers of HMG users, while the upper echelon may be by default "bad" in terms of gun game standards, have you watched a King Thunderbolt video of him using an HMG? You can literally witness what a bad HMG user is like, almost half of his shots are off target, then he dies, and blames lag. Anyhow, yeah go ahead and change the burst back to its old ROF. Interestingly enough i don't get killed by bursts more than regular,it's actually quite rare....then again i do know when to run away. My only beef with them is they completely negate rep tool viability. Even regular allows some leeway when it comes to reps,but the burst even negates the 175hp/s core focused. I guess that's one of the main reasons they are so popular,because it's a guaranteed kill. It's was kent to be a repped heavy buster with high alpha damage I saw lower the optimal range to make it a heavy shot gun..... The Best Worst game you can't stop playing..... DUST
Michael Arck 5494	Posted - 2014.09.11 14:38:00 - [13] - Quote Well then, maybe we should have left the damn HMG/Heavy issue alone then. You nerf one, people will go to the next to survive and stay on top of their game in the role they wish to play. And Burst is much more worse of a problem than the regular HMG. You might leave a 1 on 1 with your face halfway melted against a regular HMG but the burst makes a mockery out of you trying anything besides being beamed up by scotty. In Dust 514, HTFU does not exist. Damn shame gentlemen. Damn shame. Archistrategos *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain*
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 833	Posted - 2014.09.11 15:09:00 - [14] - Quote SILENT GIANT wrote: Burst hmg, cmon dammit. I have better luck going solo against a squad than 1, no gun game having, fat guy. Put full auto, unlimited clip, forge guns in the game if thats how u want guns. This is the single most deterring thing that has ever bothered me in this game. All the whining about that other crap is nothing compared to this one issue. I would rather allow a scout to fire while cloaked, at least i can see the glimmer and it still has no hp. You get what I'm saying. Of all things op that is the worst. the burst HMG is a hard counter for shotgun scouts.. they just need to get 1 hit and they are down.. so its aptly named "long range shotgun" it does feel powerful but its limited and burns up easily on hot combat compared to normal HMG and pisses metal like there is no tomorrow. but again.. RE and/or scout with shotgun/NKs are the hard counter for sentinels.. so man up and use crutch vs crutch [[LogiBro in Training]] Level 1 Forum Pariah What ever happened to buffing Logi eHP in Delta?!
SILENT GIANT Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 17	Posted - 2014.09.11 18:19:00 - [15] - Quote Good points from both sides, I guess even if something is op there is still a counter, you just might have to be a little more crafty. Keep forgetting about RE. Don't use them much. I usually always try to have uplinks since a variety of safe close spawns are more important 2 a win than any other equip, at least 2 me anyway. Guess I'll try them out more often, Gonna have to make me a burst counter suit. Depending if how close I am to skilling up 2 a burst myself hell if I can't beat them, join them. 16v16 all burst heavys, what a match that would be.
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1619	Posted - 2014.09.11 18:34:00 - [16] - Quote I liked the burst just fine before it's recent buff. Put it's stats back to what they were!
TechMechMeds KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 5557	Posted - 2014.09.11 18:35:00 - [17] - Quote So TLDR the burst hmg is fine so we can just leave this thread now and never return. Glad thats cleared up. That was spiffing.
SILENT GIANT Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 17	Posted - 2014.09.11 18:58:00 - [18] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: So TLDR the burst hmg is fine so we can just leave this thread now and never return. Glad thats cleared up. Uhhhh, exactly! Then again I'm old and live under a rock and don't know what TLDR means and you didn't even have to stop by the thread if you didn't want to. Sorry you had such a bad time.
TechMechMeds KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 5558	Posted - 2014.09.11 19:10:00 - [19] - Quote SILENT GIANT wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: So TLDR the burst hmg is fine so we can just leave this thread now and never return. Glad thats cleared up. Uhhhh, exactly! Then again I'm old and live under a rock and don't know what TLDR means and you didn't even have to stop by the thread if you didn't want to. Sorry you had such a bad time. Ah yeah totally, i now have 3 a holes, thats how deeply it rattled my sphincter lol. That was spiffing.
OZAROW Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 1592	Posted - 2014.09.12 15:31:00 - [20] - Quote SILENT GIANT wrote: Burst hmg, cmon dammit. I have better luck going solo against a squad than 1, no gun game having, fat guy. Put full auto, unlimited clip, forge guns in the game if thats how u want guns. This is the single most deterring thing that has ever bothered me in this game. All the whining about that other crap is nothing compared to this one issue. I would rather allow a scout to fire while cloaked, at least i can see the glimmer and it still has no hp. You get what I'm saying. Of all things op that is the worst. Burst six kin hmgs and 10 fatties in the city in pc is straight bull $ hyt too! Yes, you just got rocked by a guy with a BOLT PISTOL and a pair of knives! !



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