I'm almost convinced all cpm's and dev's snipe... In delta auto aim, damage and range for SR will be increased.

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That's funny, I heard rumors of the SR range being decreased.

Snipers - We simply cannot have snipers so far away in the redzone they cannot be touched, while also being immune to countersniping. However, we also want to improve the Improved headshot damage, decreased range, improved damage. We have been studying Domination maps, and some of the farthest redline sniper spots that can camp the Objective to get a good gauge of the situation. There cannot be a risk free way of playing the game, for each role there must be a counter.

Anyone else think the redline needs to be removed? Or the MCCs moved back so snipers are ineffective in the redline? Because if I have to go hunting in a rail tank for some panzy ass redline camper with a Thales, then I think the redline should be removed. Like the snipers have a 600m max range, yet all maps have a max range of about 500-550m from redline to redline. I'm tired of dealing with some panzy who camps in his redline with a sniper that overpowers ALL other snipers because of the telescopic zoom on it. Really CCP do something about these god damn campers.

The Redline should not be removed. It is there for people to get a safe start. You complain about redline snipers, which is understandable, but removing the redline would bring the stomping to your home. Imagine you getting shot as you drop from the MCC. You won't have much fun then.

I liked the proposal that no WPs could be gained while killing in the redline or something of that nature. Removing the redline idea is highly short sighted since you're only thinking about taking it away because of snipers but have not consider the many variables that could harm you more than help.

Great,no WP in the redline means no effort to push out.

The common thought:
"oh great we're redlined,maybe i can recoup some losses"
With this idea:
"oh great we're redlined,time to run circles in the MCC because i can't recoup some losses"



Damage reduction is the only option that will have 0 negative drawbacks.

Anyone else think the redline needs to be removed? Or the MCCs moved back so snipers are ineffective in the redline? Because if I have to go hunting in a rail tank for some panzy ass redline camper with a Thales, then I think the redline should be removed. Like the snipers have a 600m max range, yet all maps have a max range of about 500-550m from redline to redline. I'm tired of dealing with some panzy who camps in his redline with a sniper that overpowers ALL other snipers because of the telescopic zoom on it. Really CCP do something about these god damn campers.

It needs to be a big force field where no-one can shoot out or in

Great,no WP in the redline means no effort to push out.

The common thought:
"oh great we're redlined,maybe i can recoup some losses"
With this idea:
"oh great we're redlined,time to run circles in the MCC because i can't recoup some losses"



Damage reduction is the only option that will have 0 negative drawbacks.

How does no WP in the redline means no effort to push out? To gain WPs you must push out. It is to encourage snipers to get away from their cozy nests and step out of it.

The blueberries now run circles in the MCC even when the threat seems to be too strong. Damage reduction does nothing. Damage mods will be placed and blueberries will just continue to sit in the redline with better nanohives to make up for the damage reduction.

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Next is how many good sniper spots do you know out of red that have great vantage points but don't always get spammed with uplinks or have people waiting for someone to go to a specific place on the maps like towers and hills and that spire building on one of those maps I forgot the name?

It needs to be a big force field where no-one can shoot out or in

That is also true but my bigger issue when sniping on the battlefield are the cloaked units... and if redline had to be removed, then i wish that they remove the "cloaker campers"

Anyone else think the redline needs to be removed? Or the MCCs moved back so snipers are ineffective in the redline? Because if I have to go hunting in a rail tank for some panzy ass redline camper with a Thales, then I think the redline should be removed. Like the snipers have a 600m max range, yet all maps have a max range of about 500-550m from redline to redline. I'm tired of dealing with some panzy who camps in his redline with a sniper that overpowers ALL other snipers because of the telescopic zoom on it. Really CCP do something about these god damn campers.

in fact if you've played the new Tomb Raider in PVP, the "redline camping" is quite the opposite. your friendly redline is a small room that you have to drop down from to enter the actual playing field. so if the enemy is winning they can look up at you from that hole in the floor you drop out of and... well, camp it.

What a bunch of crying sacks of ****.

If you're getting killed from the enemy red line by a sniper, you should take more care in what you're doing.

Often times you're already winning and presenting yourself as a target. If the sniper wasn't in the red line, he would be on a tower or someplace almost nearly as inaccessible to ground type infantry. You should be thankful that the enemy snipers are in the redline and not in forward positions where they can clearly cover the hack on objectives and effectively camp your rooftop uplinks. Being at max range with a sniper rifle is one method of game play, and in large part allows the gun to do what it was meant to do. If you have a problem with snipers, feel free to leave all outdoor maps and stick to the gallente map packs. You know the maps where snipers are completely/borderline useless.

You think you have it bad. Imagine if half the time, the primary thing you do, is ineffective based on random map selection.

******* cry more.

Last I checked cover wasn't nerfed. (stop running around like you own the map, be strategic in your movement)

because you know.. snipers.

You do know that any prototype suit can survive a Thale's or a Charge Sniper Rifle body shot. There are many fits that survive headshots from both of these weapons. There are even unmodified militia fits that survive a body shot from a Charge Sniper Rifle.

Often snipers have to will run full prototype and that's just to function at a rather meager / standard level of competence. The moment you kill them even once, they're going negative on the match for isk. Anything less than prototype and you're just an annoyance at best.

The thing many of you fail to grasp is..

If you're running around naked in a trash bag with a squirt gun, expect to get owned by a sniper.

Get off your asses and do something that requires skill and risk.

Says the railgun Maddy

Says the railgun Maddy

A rail gun maddy is really scary when he uses i can never run a maddy like BONERBOMB does seen him face impossible odds and somehow get out alive looking like a boss

LOL of course your corpmate (or ALT o_0) is going to catch your back.