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iKILLu osborne Dead Man's Game 289	Posted - 2014.09.08 08:55:00 - [1] - Quote I know i'm gonna get alot of hate from this and frankly idgaf. After hotfix delta (the last hotfix most likely) I know how i want my skill points allocated and a respec has been a long time coming. This is just a simple question directed directly at ccp rattati and no one else, Can we have a respec? A yes or no is all i'm looking for. all bitter vets welcome, i'm nearing 30m so go ahead call me scrub, noob,troll etc. If ccp doesn't respond or locks this topic i assume its a no and that is when i'll announce my retirement. "yeah i fought the redline it took it only 13 seconds....." fought scotty too but something went wrong
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16370	Posted - 2014.09.08 09:03:00 - [2] - Quote I rather keep the hotfixes constantly being punched out in rapid order and get many as them in before winter holidays. What good is a respec if the demand for them returns in echo? golf? foxtrot? It is manpower intensive and requires lots of checking and rechecking to make sure nobody gets screwed in a respec. I mean how would you feel if they accidentally deleted all of your sp instead? There is no push button respec for dust 514. Lots of things can (and have previously) go wrong and I simply not find it worth the risk, manpower, or time to get one hammered out when the returns would be fleeting as the calls for respecs will return in the hotfix immediately afterwards. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Advanced Large Blaster =// Unlocked
Ryme Intrinseca 1772	Posted - 2014.09.08 09:22:00 - [3] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I rather keep the hotfixes constantly being punched out in rapid order and get many as them in before winter holidays. What good is a respec if the demand for them returns in echo? golf? foxtrot? It is manpower intensive and requires lots of checking and rechecking to make sure nobody gets screwed in a respec. I mean how would you feel if they accidentally deleted all of your sp instead? There is no push button respec for dust 514. Lots of things can (and have previously) go wrong and I simply not find it worth the risk, manpower, or time to get one hammered out when the returns would be fleeting as the calls for respecs will return in the hotfix immediately afterwards. Please, no more fundamental changes to suit roles (as happened with gal, cal, and ama scout) in hotfixes. It's precisely this devaluing of people's choices that makes them want a respec. Personally I don't want a respec but when you basically make one suit do what the other one used to do (as happened with ama/cal scout) it's hard to argue against it.
iKILLu osborne Dead Man's Game 289	Posted - 2014.09.08 09:23:00 - [4] - Quote @ iron wolf saber lmao i said (most likely) in regards to no more hotfixes i would rather them keep coming too. i never stated or demanded a "when" i asked "if" yes i'm sure it does require manpower and a lot of confrimation, and with a small developmental staff it may not be possible thus why i asked. Yes the need or call of a respec may rise again but my entire post was based off delta being the last hotfix followed by some minor tweakage, and if the respec was bought with aurum then yeah it would be worth the time and manpower, although making someone buy it is a bit extreme. yes i am a cal scout but that isn't why i'm asking insert coin, try again, and this time don't make assumptions "yeah i fought the redline it took it only 13 seconds....." fought scotty too but something went wrong
Thumb Green Raymond James Corp 1412	Posted - 2014.09.08 09:41:00 - [5] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: It is manpower intensive and requires lots of checking and rechecking to make sure nobody gets screwed in a respec. I mean how would you feel if they accidentally deleted all of your sp instead? I'd say that's a bunch of bullsh!t but this is CCP we're talking about. They half-assed their way through Dust so it's no surprise that they're too incompetent to automate this. We don't kick ass, we kick dick and we kick it hard. Join us in our Pumpkin Crushing
iKILLu osborne Dead Man's Game 290	Posted - 2014.09.08 09:44:00 - [6] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: It is manpower intensive and requires lots of checking and rechecking to make sure nobody gets screwed in a respec. I mean how would you feel if they accidentally deleted all of your sp instead? I'd say that's a bunch of bullsh!t but this is CCP we're talking about. They half-assed their way through Dust so it's no surprise that they're too incompetent to automate this. hey i made this thread to get a yes or no from rattati not fling poop at him, so please wait until we hear from him (or don't hear from him) before you start flinging your poop "yeah i fought the redline it took it only 13 seconds....." fought scotty too but something went wrong
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 2652	Posted - 2014.09.08 10:09:00 - [7] - Quote Unfortunately when you feed monkeys they poop. Then they start looking for targets. The solution is to starve them into extinction.
Death Shadow117 Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 399	Posted - 2014.09.08 11:15:00 - [8] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Unfortunately when you feed monkeys they poop. Then they start looking for targets. The solution is to starve them into extinction. you guys just cant belive that we evolved from them can you? Why?
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 2886	Posted - 2014.09.08 11:53:00 - [9] - Quote iKILLu osborne wrote: After hotfix delta (the last hotfix most likely) I know how I want my skill points allocated and a respec has been a long time coming. Delta isn't the last hotfix. If memory serves, CCP Rattati and Logibro have already mentioned Echo once or twice. But yes, a respec is needed and has been a long time coming... continue... iKILLu osborne wrote: This is just a simple question directed directly at CCP Rattati and no one else, Can we have a respec? A yes or no is all I'm looking for. No one from CCP will ever respond to your thread. Sorry friend. The silence IS your answer. iKILLu osborne wrote: If CCP doesn't respond or locks this topic I assume its a no and that is when I'll announce my retirement. See my previous comment... CCP will never respond to these threads. Giving respecs is hard for them. The Dust 514 dev team is basically CCP Logibro, CCP Rattati, an enthusiastic janitor who simply goes by Lau, and an intern who genuinely believes she is working for some kind of China's Got Talent show. He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 2657	Posted - 2014.09.08 12:05:00 - [10] - Quote Death Shadow117 wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Unfortunately when you feed monkeys they poop. Then they start looking for targets. The solution is to starve them into extinction. you guys just cant belive that we evolved from them can you? I actually cannot fathom that we didn't given the sheer level at which people sling turds and badposts on the internet while believing themselves to be clever and witty.

Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16373	Posted - 2014.09.08 12:50:00 - [11] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: It is manpower intensive and requires lots of checking and rechecking to make sure nobody gets screwed in a respec. I mean how would you feel if they accidentally deleted all of your sp instead? I'd say that's a bunch of bullsh!t but this is CCP we're talking about. They half-assed their way through Dust so it's no surprise that they're too incompetent to automate this. You know last reset people had negative wallets and it was only a small population of people who had that issue. While legion will likely feature this ability Dust 514 will not anytime in the foreseeable future. Hell another system CCP would love to see automated is the Event system; at least events are much easier to generally manage as they dont usually involve going into everyone's account and deleting things. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Advanced Large Blaster =// Unlocked
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kyoudai Furinkazan 1171	Posted - 2014.09.08 13:01:00 - [12] - Quote iKILLu osborne wrote: I know i'm gonna get alot of hate from this and frankly idgaf. After hotfix delta (the last hotfix most likely) I know how i want my skill points allocated and a respec has been a long time coming. This is just a simple question directed directly at ccp rattati and no one else, Can we have a respec? A yes or no is all i'm looking for. all bitter vets welcome, i'm nearing 30m so go ahead call me scrub, noob,troll etc. If ccp doesn't respond or locks this topic i assume its a no and that is when i'll announce my retirement. You better not quit , I'm at 31mil recently and I've seen you play a few times and your good . If CCP just wanted to rid the forum of this discussion then they would just announce that Delta will come with a petitioned skill point refund , be it total ( I don't need that but it wouldn't be dismissed ) or just infantry ( I would rather have that instead ) and that way people could file a ticket and have their skill points administered and not miss a beat and those who don't want one ... wouldn't rain on the parade of those who choose to . This would solve all the problems and kill the anti players because they will not be effected , now if they just want to be butthurt and all and still talk about " no skill points " , then the community would know those who are the same as those who campaign to kill roles and nerf items . They just don't care about anyone other then themselves and not the wellness of the community or the game as a whole . There need to be a filing system to kill the clutter and just get this over with already because it's long overdue and with most of the tweaks to infantry done , it's the most opportune time . Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
Heimdallr69 Nyain San General Tso's Alliance 3528	Posted - 2014.09.08 14:43:00 - [13] - Quote I'm a bitter vet but I agree with you. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 7508	Posted - 2014.09.08 14:48:00 - [14] - Quote I need some General Tso's chicken Lucent Echelon -The Brightest Ranks Gallente Faction Warfare Chanel
Derrith Erador 2581	Posted - 2014.09.08 14:50:00 - [15] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Death Shadow117 wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Unfortunately when you feed monkeys they poop. Then they start looking for targets. The solution is to starve them into extinction. you guys just cant belive that we evolved from them can you? I actually cannot fathom that we didn't given the sheer level at which people sling turds and badposts on the internet while believing themselves to be clever and witty. I personally hate evolution because of this simple fact. Monkeys get more rights then we do as humans, and there's only a 2% DNA difference if I'm not mistaken. They get to fling poo at people, and there was one time I even heard of one who grabbed a lady's hair and started beating off in it. I guarantee that if a person did that, it'd be all over the news. Screw evolution, and monkeys. But yes, give us a respec. The preacher of Betty White, may her pimp hand guide me.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3291	Posted - 2014.09.08 14:51:00 - [16] - Quote iKILLu osborne wrote: my entire post was based off delta being the last hotfix Where'd you come up with this nonsense? This means your entire post is pointless, because it's based off fictional information. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Denchlad 7 Dead Man's Game 521	Posted - 2014.09.08 15:11:00 - [17] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: iKILLu osborne wrote: my entire post was based off delta being the last hotfix Where'd you come up with this nonsense? This means your entire post is pointless, because it's based off fictional information. I'll second Soraya here. Theres plenty more hotfixes to come. However, I after the game has finally been balanced and the last hotfix has been deployed, im all up for a respec. Until then, no. The only person in Dust stupid enough to Proto every single god-damn weapon. 19/19.
Thumb Green Raymond James Corp 1414	Posted - 2014.09.08 15:46:00 - [18] - Quote iKILLu osborne wrote: Thumb Green wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: It is manpower intensive and requires lots of checking and rechecking to make sure nobody gets screwed in a respec. I mean how would you feel if they accidentally deleted all of your sp instead? I'd say that's a bunch of bullsh!t but this is CCP we're talking about. They half-assed their way through Dust so it's no surprise that they're too incompetent to automate this. hey i made this thread to get a yes or no from rattati not fling poop at him, so please wait until we hear from him (or don't hear from him) before you start flinging your poop It was a jab at CCP not Rattati, I for one think he's been doing a wonderful job; especially considering what they gave him to work with. In fact I'm surprised he didn't have a stroke when he looked at the source code. The dude has balls of steel to try to sort that mess out. Iron Wolf Saber wrote: You know last reset people had negative wallets and it was only a small population of people who had that issue. While legion will likely feature this ability Dust 514 will not anytime in the foreseeable future. Hell another system CCP would love to see automated is the Event system; at least events are much easier to generally manage as they dont usually involve going into everyone's account and deleting things. I don't quite get this post, I get the feeling that you are trying to counter what I said with it but all it does is reaffirm what I said. We don't kick ass, we kick dick and we kick it hard. Join us in our Pumpkin Crushing
DROPSHIP CAPTAIN ICE-9 PROJECT 48	Posted - 2014.09.08 16:49:00 - [19] - Quote sooner or later this game comes down to this all of the players VS C C P for ruining their stuff. again! sooner or later this game comes down to this all of the players VS C C P for ruining their stuff. again! sooner or later this game comes down to this all of the players VS C C P for ruining their stuff. what this means is that we the players have to group up and deal with C C P. they are just a company they don't care about anything but themself's and 'trolls' how do you kill a fat cat? you don't feed them of give them water, they complain and complain, then they die. in some miracle or another the trolls need to be targeted and hunted for sport here is a prime example: nerf this! nerf vehicle specialists, ect. heavy spammers with light weapons too. common eve the noobs are getting less money.... not cool at all hope you see what I see! Join Channel FXCK YOU 2 so we can figure out what we can and can't do. DROPSHIP CAPTAIN
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1263	Posted - 2014.09.08 17:02:00 - [20] - Quote Respec thread #1071 People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change

Onesimus Tarsus is-a-Corporation 2588	Posted - 2014.09.08 18:13:00 - [21] - Quote No repecs... OK. 3x SP and no caps from now on instead. Everyone's happy, because no one should care. Not that they should have cared about respecs anyway. K/D(r) matchmaking fixes the *whole* game. That's a promise.
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 1216	Posted - 2014.09.08 18:41:00 - [22] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: Respec thread #1071 But rest assured players!! that once we hit respec thread #1514 .. CCP will grant the request !! For one simple reason.. this game makes very little cash since FF CCP will eventually do a U-turn on respecs and will sell them off SOONtm But overall there is no point of one until after Hotfix ZULU But yes Osbourne there will be a respec gazes off into the horizon sometime next year Once CCP decide the Hotfixes are done we MIGHT get a Free respec. After that or by the time Legion deploys as I think they have pointed out - Respecs 4 cash which comes as no surprise to SELL the one thing the players have always asked for since Beta But I worry will the staff drop us into a Buff/Nerf rollercoaster on Legion to increase sales of respecs Innapropriate Irrelevence... Welcome to the Dust Forum, hang around to see why everyone else left :/
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kyoudai Furinkazan 1171	Posted - 2014.09.08 19:11:00 - [23] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: No repecs... OK. 3x SP and no caps from now on instead. Everyone's happy, because no one should care. Not that they should have cared about respecs anyway. I for one would not like to see my skill tree with sinks and items that I just don't use anymore because the direction of the game changed because it was spit balled against a board and conception has changed from the intent . What direction is this game going in and who knows besides the ones who sit behind the desks .... half the time by the actions , they don't know where it's going .. only the corporate heads know . I would like to think that my time isn't wasted in thinking that I'm playing a continual beta , at some point I would like to play Dust that will be legion without the perks but I will take game balance and direction over most . I won't play the beta of legion because that's on HGPC , I don't and won't have one ... I have a PS4 still in the box like it's Christmas time . I would like to feel that I had some say so in the direction of my character , hell .... at least Destiny gives that feeling , no matter what you want to say negative about it . Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kyoudai Furinkazan 1171	Posted - 2014.09.08 19:23:00 - [24] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: Respec thread #1071 But rest assured players!! that once we hit respec thread #1514 .. CCP will grant the request !! For one simple reason.. this game makes very little cash since FF CCP will eventually do a U-turn on respecs and will sell them off SOONtm But overall there is no point of one until after Hotfix ZULU But yes Osbourne there will be a respec gazes off into the horizon sometime next year Once CCP decide the Hotfixes are done we MIGHT get a Free respec. After that or by the time Legion deploys as I think they have pointed out - Respecs 4 cash which comes as no surprise to SELL the one thing the players have always asked for since Beta But I worry will the staff drop us into a Buff/Nerf rollercoaster on Legion to increase sales of respecs See and your trusting them after FF , to me that's unwarranted and useless . Part two indeed . If their going to do it , then do it and get it over with and shut up the mouths of those who chatter , hell you at least owe them that . Keep waiting and after legion you will realize it was all for not ... I wouldn't trust it halfway threw the alphabet so why wait until the end and get screwed even more and be gullible on top of that . I would only have myself to blame for that . Get it over with ... so we all can finally move on and so we can change the academy to graduating after one million skill points , that's the best thing to do . I would say three million but who knows how long this game has before it changes over . Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
Rusty Shallows Caldari State 2122	Posted - 2014.09.08 22:08:00 - [25] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Unfortunately when you feed monkeys they poop. Then they start looking for targets. The solution is to starve them into extinction. The player base or the people who are playing the Forum Metagame? After uprising 1.7 some of the very people who were fed buffs still flung poop. Some people who get twisted nerfs on others they don't like love to keep flinging. Could that mean the forums are the problem? Or it could just be schadenfreude. It's common among certain political groups so seeing in a video game isn't surprising. The thing about poop is people make their own so no one is running out of ammo. Likes are my candy and in these forums every day is Halloween. XD Sweets for everyone! Forums > Game
BMSTUBBY KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 671	Posted - 2014.09.08 23:33:00 - [26] - Quote Your respec has a name, Project Legion. Meh, F2P Lobby Shooter BattleDuty 514 Working as intended.
Michael Arck 5440	Posted - 2014.09.08 23:55:00 - [27] - Quote So I take it you didn't grab the extra SP from the event and/or didn't grab a booster either? And like IWS said, really what's the point? You'll spec into what ever is better and then the changes come later, you want another. And... KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: Respec thread #1071 Archistrategos *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain*
iKILLu osborne Dead Man's Game 298	Posted - 2014.09.09 02:16:00 - [28] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: So I take it you didn't grab the extra SP from the event and/or didn't grab a booster either? And like IWS said, really what's the point? You'll spec into what ever is better and then the changes come later, you want another. And... KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: Respec thread #1071 I assume your talking to me, no i specced into every weapon, module, vehicle, and (most suits) and now i know what suits my taste, and i want a respec after all the hotfixes are over (if the playerbase survives that long) so i can more wisely invest my sp. I don't care when the respec comes, this thread is just to find out if they will be a respec "yeah i fought the redline it took it only 13 seconds....." fought scotty too but something went wrong
The Robot Devil Algintal Core Gallente Federation 2580	Posted - 2014.09.09 02:33:00 - [29] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: I need some General Tso's chicken Extra spicy for me please. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
The Robot Devil Algintal Core Gallente Federation 2580	Posted - 2014.09.09 02:41:00 - [30] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: So I take it you didn't grab the extra SP from the event and/or didn't grab a booster either? And like IWS said, really what's the point? You'll spec into what ever is better and then the changes come later, you want another. And... KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: Respec thread #1071 Yup. They have asked for a respec at every patch, update, release, hotfix and balance we have had. By now they should have all the SP they need to do whatever they want. They need to just start putting them back into the respec thread we had a while back. Just start another thread for the respecers. I spent days on that thread and I enjoyed it. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke



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