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Kin Cat
Another Clone in the Wall
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Posted - 2014.09.06 22:27:00 -
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kind of like a commando except it would just be like a normal scout today, a light weapon and a sidearm, but his EWAR would be as bad as a medium frame
problem solved.
it would also be cool if we had something like those old tanks people talk about, except as a heavy suit that's super slow with two heavy weapons.
he would only be able to waddle back and forth  |
Crimson ShieId
Psygod9
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Posted - 2014.09.06 22:38:00 -
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So... the point of using scout suits then would be... what, again?
Nova Knives are best sidearm.
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Kin Cat
Another Clone in the Wall
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Posted - 2014.09.06 22:46:00 -
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Crimson ShieId wrote:So... the point of using scout suits then would be... what, again?
best EWAR, shared tacnet, probably buff the Minmatar's to match
scouts are just way too good at EVERYTHING except HP.
why should HP be the only downside to being a scout |
Patrlck 56
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Posted - 2014.09.06 22:50:00 -
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So make another medium suit? |
One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
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Posted - 2014.09.06 22:55:00 -
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What would be the point of a light suit without EWAR?
EWAR is what makes the light suits have any chance with frames that have 5x more HP.
You would simply be creating two light suits that have no practical use on any battlefield.
When are you going to post some common sense fixes to legit problems? Completely negating the usefulness of an entire frame only shows your complete nonsensical bias and willingness to break the game solely for your benefit.
You can always tell a Millford Minja
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
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Posted - 2014.09.06 23:02:00 -
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Sledgehammer solutions are always in bad taste.
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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J4yne C0bb
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.06 23:04:00 -
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It would be better to grant scout suit bonuses to EWAR modules, and make tank modules CPU/PG intensive so that they incur a larger penalty for using them on a scout suit. Not nerf an entire classes weapon layout.
Min Logi | aka Punch R0ckgroin, fatman
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2Berries
Ghosts of Dawn
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.07 01:31:00 -
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Don't sound too great. I would like to see a light frame that can double wield side arms! Quick, close damage with infuriating reload time(both hands busy).
Burning through clones like Rusty Venture.
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Death Shadow117
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
362
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Posted - 2014.09.07 05:17:00 -
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Kin Cat wrote:kind of like a commando except it would just be like a normal scout today, a light weapon and a sidearm, but his EWAR would be as bad as a medium frame problem solved. it would also be cool if we had something like those old tanks people talk about, except as a heavy suit that's super slow with two heavy weapons. he would only be able to waddle back and forth
um or you could get good and stop bitching about scouts ooo or maybe we could get rid of assault sidearm slot and equip slot bscause they dont need those right?
Why?
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Death Shadow117
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
363
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Posted - 2014.09.07 05:19:00 -
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J4yne C0bb wrote:It would be better to grant scout suit bonuses to EWAR modules, and make tank modules CPU/PG intensive so that they incur a larger penalty for using them on a scout suit. Not nerf an entire classes weapon layout.
I like it but only regular plates should be bad for scouts not ferros and reactives.
Why?
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GM Archduke
Game Masters
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.07 05:35:00 -
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Moved.
GM Archduke
CCP Customer Support | EVE Online | DUST 514
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Meee One
Hello Kitty Logistics
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Posted - 2014.09.07 06:33:00 -
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J4yne C0bb wrote:It would be better to grant scout suit bonuses to EWAR modules, and make tank modules CPU/PG intensive so that they incur a larger penalty for using them on a scout suit. Not nerf an entire classes weapon layout.
Oh and kin cats suggestion was stupid?
Making tank modules harder to fit would only effect those that need them the most,logistics.
Scouts would still have speed and eWAR.
logistics would be left with low eHP and speed.
Oh and did i mention 1 basic ferros is all that separates scouts from logistics eHP wise?
Was banned for fighting for logistics survival on 7/25/2014 02:11. Logistics will never be respected.
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zzZaXxx
D3ATH CARD
493
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Posted - 2014.09.07 06:53:00 -
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Actually it would make a lot of sense to limit scouts to sidearms and create another light frame, one that can wield a light weapon, has EWAR stats just a bit worse than scouts', can't cloak, has only one equipment slot, and is a bit slower. Their advantage would be the light weapon, an extra slot, more EHP, and different suit bonuses.
As for the bonuses, I think a damage resistance bonus and other racial bonuses focused on survivability would create an awesome new light frame that can run in and out of the action, flank, and take and dish out damage with good mobility.
They'd still have significantly less EHP than assaults, one less slot, and no weapons bonuses. It would fill a niche in the game and it could all be done based on the current light frames. Light frames are the only one that has only one version. |
Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
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Posted - 2014.09.07 14:26:00 -
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Kin Cat wrote:kind of like a commando except it would just be like a normal scout today, a light weapon and a sidearm, but his EWAR would be as bad as a medium frame problem solved. it would also be cool if we had something like those old tanks people talk about, except as a heavy suit that's super slow with two heavy weapons. he would only be able to waddle back and forth
i think i get it..
current scout == dual sidearm and normal mechanics but
new second scout == light+side and the difference is new scout is like a faster yet squishier assault and cannot fit cloaks? and poor ewar support? but will be able to fit more ehp then normal scout (after fitting nerf so the normal cannot brick tank)
[[LogiBro in Training]]
Level 1 Forum Pariah
What ever happened to buffing Logi eHP in Delta?!
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
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Posted - 2014.09.07 15:45:00 -
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zzZaXxx wrote:Actually it would make a lot of sense to limit scouts to sidearms and create another light frame, one that can wield a light weapon, has EWAR stats just a bit worse than scouts', can't cloak, has only one equipment slot, and is a bit slower. Their advantage would be the light weapon, an extra slot, more EHP, and different suit bonuses.
As for the bonuses, I think a damage resistance bonus and other racial bonuses focused on survivability would create an awesome new light frame that can run in and out of the action, flank, and take and dish out damage with good mobility.
They'd still have significantly less EHP than assaults, one less slot, and no weapons bonuses. It would fill a niche in the game and it could all be done based on the current light frames. Light frames are the only one that has only one version.
No.
Their reduction in EWAR capabilities would render them scannable, and would negate any advantage carrying a light weapon would have.
They simply could not keep up with any other suits.
This would only encourage tanking on scouts, and making them merely assault lights.
Dual side arms is a ridiculous idea to force upon any frame.
As it stands, there is more suit variety than ever before, and a move like this would be a great big step backwards.
You can always tell a Millford Minja
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Kin Cat
Another Clone in the Wall
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Posted - 2014.09.07 19:54:00 -
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guys this was just an idea from that himiko guy in fatal absolution
in that thread about wall hacks he was saying that slaying ability and being able to scan through walls shouldn't come hand in hand and i think he's right
just think about how scouts were before the cloak and caldari/amarr came out. scouts were not slayers, they could do it but not as well as now
im not even going to read all the QQ posts because i got the jist of it by skimming through. you guys think its a bad idea because you don't want the best suit in the game taken away from you
let's face it scouts are OP and better at every single suit at everything except HP stacking. that's the only thing they can't do as well |
Kin Cat
Another Clone in the Wall
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Posted - 2014.09.07 19:56:00 -
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by the way this wasn't supposed to be a serious idea so i didnt post it in this forum for that reason |
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