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el OPERATOR wrote:

Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote:

Atiim wrote:

Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote:

Delayed wp for revives punishes scrubby logis who harvest the pubs. If your a good logi and your team mate
lives you get wp..even if your dead..AND I added a increase to wp gain moments at et the revive with wp for each kill..
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Delayed WP for revives punishes good logis who have bad teammates. If you're a good logi but your teammate is bad, they'll run into the open and get killed again, meaning no WP for your good deeds.

Considering how most people in PUB/FW Matches have no situational awareness whatsoever, my scenario is much more likely to happen.

Adding ways to obtain WP won't change the fact that your proposal creates more problems than it solves.

You shouldn't get rewarded for harvesting off a blue dots idiocy. Nor should you get an award for not contributing. Nor should you get an award for being a bad field medic ..you revive someone in the line of fire who can't take it ..your a bad logi.

And if you haven't figured out yet that theres a durational WP cap on rep tools that already prompts unlocking and relocking on your target so all this about needing to add a timer of some sort to it too is redundant and unneccessary...You're a bad logi.

no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil

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Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 150	Posted - 2014.09.06 14:04:00 - [1] - Quote How about we remove that nasty lack of speed. Logis are gimmick ed in other ways and speed is crucial to survival when supporting. Logis should be fast with low hp tiers and fast recovery..on this note I think ccp should give the efficacy to fitting recovery modules..maybe give The amar logi fitting to plates minnie and cal bonuses to rechargers and energizers...gall to reps just a thought If you leave call for help screen you should immediately clone die. You mind and being just left your clone to be put in a new clone..I.e old clone dies immediately eliminates unwilling revives I think repper tools should have a max lock on time forcing you to re lock every so on to re establish the connection...This eliminates skilless chain repping. Caldari nanohives...could The caldari get a area of effect bonus for nanos..making cal Nanos have a much larger range while keeping current bonuses Leave base ehp crippled. Active scanners should be buffed. Dunno how don't use em. Delayed revive wp rewards..for 4 seconds after revive so rapidly reviving and downing clones gives no reward but clean revives do. Add a slight bonus wp for kills made by clone within x time frame of being revived. Just a few of my thoughts been brainstorming no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
Atiim 11880	Posted - 2014.09.06 14:20:00 - [2] - Quote Delaying WP rewards for revives punishes Logistics who risk their lives to revive someone, just to have that person who was revived do something stupid, like run into a crowd of enemys. The main problem with a Nanohive bonus is that they're useless in terms of WP gain. You only get 10WP for the initial supply, as opposed to every tick. Even if you were to give ammo to the entire team, you'd only make 160WP, which negligible. If Active Scanners are buffed, then you'd basically remove the benifit of Medium Frames investing into Dampening V, which is getting under STD scanners without having to use Profile Dampeners. Not only that, but if ACSs were buffed, that would most likely make them OP on Gallente Logistics. DUST 514's 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 151	Posted - 2014.09.06 14:25:00 - [3] - Quote Atiim wrote: Delaying WP rewards for revives punishes Logistics who risk their lives to revive someone, just to have that person who was revived do something stupid, like run into a crowd of enemys. The main problem with a Nanohive bonus is that they're useless in terms of WP gain. You only get 10WP for the initial supply, as opposed to every tick. Even if you were to give ammo to the entire team, you'd only make 160WP, which negligible. If Active Scanners are buffed, then you'd basically remove the benifit of Medium Frames investing into Dampening V, which is getting under STD scanners without having to use Profile Dampeners. Not only that, but if ACSs were buffed, that would most likely make them OP on Gallente Logistics. Delayed wp for revives punishes scrubby logis who harvest the pubs. If your a good logi and your team mate lives you get wp..even if your dead..AND I added a increase to wp gain moments at et the revive with wp for each kill.. In a situation where a heavy was down a clean revive and rep would given e you really good wp while he kills..but eventually you would have to re lock your repper..because why not repper requires no real skill and chain repping when lock lasts forever doesn't either no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1486	Posted - 2014.09.06 14:29:00 - [4] - Quote Nanohive bubbles already cause enough issues, we don't need a bigger bubble. Some point adjustment would be nice, but, I doubt that'll happen. If you find an issue and I stumble upon your thread, I will do my darnedest to get the issue known. Also, Raptors...
CamClarke Inner.Hell 92	Posted - 2014.09.06 14:41:00 - [5] - Quote As a part-time Gallente Logistics, I feel the only necessary buff to Active Scanners is to give the Duvolle Focused Active Scanner a 17dB base scanning precision over its current 20dB. An angle buff to some/all Active Scanners would be nice too, but at least the Focused would have a real purpose again.
ACT1ON BASTARD Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 116	Posted - 2014.09.06 14:57:00 - [6] - Quote A max lock on time would be so stupid. ooh have to relock so this takes skill now, durrrr.
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 796	Posted - 2014.09.06 16:26:00 - [7] - Quote Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote: Atiim wrote: Delaying WP rewards for revives punishes Logistics who risk their lives to revive someone, just to have that person who was revived do something stupid, like run into a crowd of enemys. The main problem with a Nanohive bonus is that they're useless in terms of WP gain. You only get 10WP for the initial supply, as opposed to every tick. Even if you were to give ammo to the entire team, you'd only make 160WP, which negligible. If Active Scanners are buffed, then you'd basically remove the benifit of Medium Frames investing into Dampening V, which is getting under STD scanners without having to use Profile Dampeners. Not only that, but if ACSs were buffed, that would most likely make them OP on Gallente Logistics. Delayed wp for revives punishes scrubby logis who harvest the pubs. If your a good logi and your team mate lives you get wp..even if your dead..AND I added a increase to wp gain moments at et the revive with wp for each kill.. In a situation where a heavy was down a clean revive and rep would given e you really good wp while he kills..but eventually you would have to re lock your repper..because why not repper requires no real skill and chain repping when lock lasts forever doesn't either a logi holds the team up scrub players or not [[LogiBro in Training]] Level 1 Forum Pariah
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 7489	Posted - 2014.09.06 16:27:00 - [8] - Quote Logistics need to get the same slot layout as Assaults. Right now the slot progression is a weird one making Standard useless on 3/4 of logistics. Especially if youre going for a module based Codebreaker and Ewar suit. Secondly There needs to be more variants of active scanners One that scans a long range but short scan angle one that has a wide angle but short range and one that's in between. With all the variants that would be within each one of course. Lastly there needs to be a bonus for all equipment when using Logistics. Not the same exact bonus but it would be based off the races relation with said equipment. Two examples: The Caldari logistics would get less of a Repair tool bonus than Gallente but Caldari would get more of a bonus to..lets say uplinks over the Gallente. Lucent Echelon -The Brightest Ranks Gallente Faction Warfare Chanel
Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 151	Posted - 2014.09.06 16:38:00 - [9] - Quote ACT1ON BASTARD wrote: A max lock on time would be so stupid. ooh have to relock so this takes skill now, durrrr. It take more skill than locking on 2 heavy and strafing in a circle for over a minute..not if the repper tool had a max lock on times 1 there would always be clear definition ed pauses in a rep stream. 2 it would take more skill than lock on strafe in a circle escape call if the timers were scaled like 5 secs at stnd 9 at adv 11 at proto ..it forces a logi to time they're healing no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 151	Posted - 2014.09.06 16:40:00 - [10] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Logistics need to get the same slot layout as Assaults. Right now the slot progression is a weird one making Standard useless on 3/4 of logistics. Especially if youre going for a module based Codebreaker and Ewar suit. Secondly There needs to be more variants of active scanners One that scans a long range but short scan angle one that has a wide angle but short range and one that's in between. With all the variants that would be within each one of course. Lastly there needs to be a bonus for all equipment when using Logistics. Not the same exact bonus but it would be based off the races relation with said equipment. Two examples: The Caldari logistics would get less of a Repair tool bonus than Gallente but Caldari would get more of a bonus to..lets say uplinks over the Gallente. With the scanners it makes sense to me I don't run them though so as I've said I can't speculate ..as for the varying strength bonuses I agree..all logis should get some bonus to each equipment with some logis having higher strengths in some areas no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil

Atiim 11891	Posted - 2014.09.06 17:17:00 - [11] - Quote Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote: Delayed wp for revives punishes scrubby logis who harvest the pubs. If your a good logi and your team mate lives you get wp..even if your dead..AND I added a increase to wp gain moments at et the revive with wp for each kill.. r Delayed WP for revives punishes good logis who have bad teammates. If you're a good logi but your teammate is bad, they'll run into the open and get killed again, meaning no WP for your good deeds. Considering how most people in PUB/FW Matches have no situational awareness whatsoever, my scenario is much more likely to happen. Adding ways to obtain WP won't change the fact that your proposal creates more problems than it solves. DUST 514's 1st Matari Commando -HAND
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon 2793	Posted - 2014.09.06 17:32:00 - [12] - Quote Simple buff to active scanner can be a reduction in charge time. 40 seconds recharge in a world of scouts with wallhack is just ridiculous. PSN: ogamega "Dust is full of communists who despise people with enough isk to buy expensive items" LOCK REGIONS
Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 151	Posted - 2014.09.06 19:10:00 - [13] - Quote Atiim wrote: Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote: Delayed wp for revives punishes scrubby logis who harvest the pubs. If your a good logi and your team mate lives you get wp..even if your dead..AND I added a increase to wp gain moments at et the revive with wp for each kill.. r Delayed WP for revives punishes good logis who have bad teammates. If you're a good logi but your teammate is bad, they'll run into the open and get killed again, meaning no WP for your good deeds. Considering how most people in PUB/FW Matches have no situational awareness whatsoever, my scenario is much more likely to happen. Adding ways to obtain WP won't change the fact that your proposal creates more problems than it solves. You shouldn't get rewarded for harvesting off a blue dots idiocy. Nor should you get an award for not contributing. Nor should you get an award for being a bad field medic ..you revive someone in the line of fire who can't take it ..your a bad logi. no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
Rusty Shallows Caldari State 2102	Posted - 2014.09.06 19:23:00 - [14] - Quote Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote: snip Leave base ehp crippled. snip I don't think you need to be concerned about that changing. Unless a CCP employee actually starts running Logistics and gets instagibbed by a Light Complex Damage Mod Scrambler Rifle they will remain blissfully ignorant of the problem. There isn't even any indication Logistics will get another review in any aspect. They and Equipment already had a thorough pass for Uprising 1.8 so it identically possible the good and bad will remain as such for the foreseeable future. Likes are my candy and in these forums every day is Halloween. XD Sweets for everyone! Forums > Game
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon 2794	Posted - 2014.09.06 19:34:00 - [15] - Quote I don't like the idea of delayed WP for revive, in delta things will be better bc injector will heal the same amount of armor and shield. The only thing i would change after that is the speed of the revive, it's too slow. PSN: ogamega "Dust is full of communists who despise people with enough isk to buy expensive items" LOCK REGIONS
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1254	Posted - 2014.09.06 19:36:00 - [16] - Quote I'll admit that I'm a bit disappointed that us logi bro's and equipment aren't getting a look for HF Delta. "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero Skype: jaysyn.larrisen Twitter: @JaysynLarrisen
el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 307	Posted - 2014.09.06 21:40:00 - [17] - Quote Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote: Atiim wrote: Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote: Delayed wp for revives punishes scrubby logis who harvest the pubs. If your a good logi and your team mate lives you get wp..even if your dead..AND I added a increase to wp gain moments at et the revive with wp for each kill.. r Delayed WP for revives punishes good logis who have bad teammates. If you're a good logi but your teammate is bad, they'll run into the open and get killed again, meaning no WP for your good deeds. Considering how most people in PUB/FW Matches have no situational awareness whatsoever, my scenario is much more likely to happen. Adding ways to obtain WP won't change the fact that your proposal creates more problems than it solves. You shouldn't get rewarded for harvesting off a blue dots idiocy. Nor should you get an award for not contributing. Nor should you get an award for being a bad field medic ..you revive someone in the line of fire who can't take it ..your a bad logi. And if you haven't figured out yet that theres a durational WP cap on rep tools that already prompts unlocking and relocking on your target so all this about needing to add a timer of some sort to it too is redundant and unneccessary...You're a bad logi. Open-Beta Vet. Drunk Night Tree Burner. This is my Main and Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.
Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 152	Posted - 2014.09.06 23:19:00 - [18] - Quote el OPERATOR wrote: Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote: Atiim wrote: Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote: Delayed wp for revives punishes scrubby logis who harvest the pubs. If your a good logi and your team mate lives you get wp..even if your dead..AND I added a increase to wp gain moments at et the revive with wp for each kill.. r Delayed WP for revives punishes good logis who have bad teammates. If you're a good logi but your teammate is bad, they'll run into the open and get killed again, meaning no WP for your good deeds. Considering how most people in PUB/FW Matches have no situational awareness whatsoever, my scenario is much more likely to happen. Adding ways to obtain WP won't change the fact that your proposal creates more problems than it solves. You shouldn't get rewarded for harvesting off a blue dots idiocy. Nor should you get an award for not contributing. Nor should you get an award for being a bad field medic ..you revive someone in the line of fire who can't take it ..your a bad logi. And if you haven't figured out yet that theres a durational WP cap on rep tools that already prompts unlocking and relocking on your target so all this about needing to add a timer of some sort to it too is redundant and unneccessary...You're a bad logi. As if I'm a great logi..I've probably gotten more wp in one match than your best 2 combined. And the wp.cap is nothing major you can still break upwards of 8 k no problem. Don't get ur panties in a wad because I made a suggestion that makes repper tool more complicated than point hold ..and Derp around in a circle until your pet is done no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 152	Posted - 2014.09.06 23:22:00 - [19] - Quote shaman oga wrote: I don't like the idea of delayed WP for revive, in delta things will be better bc injector will heal the same amount of armor and shield. The only thing i would change after that is the speed of the revive, it's too slow. Still not gonna stop **** logis from be rewarded for doing **** things but hey if we stopped rewarding all the incompetence In dust just wouldn't be dust ...logi role is ridiculously boring and utilizing multiple logi gear takes no real skill.. no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
zzZaXxx D3ATH CARD 493	Posted - 2014.09.06 23:28:00 - [20] - Quote ADV Cal and Gal logis need that extra slot. I say we need speed and more EHP. There's no such thing anymore as someone getting an advantage by being a slayer logi. We just need better survivability.



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