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Zindorak
1.U.P
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Posted - 2014.09.07 20:49:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:Zindorak wrote:saxonmish wrote:Zindorak wrote:I think i might need to enroll in Sax's badass training classes a mil an hour :P Ohhhhhhhhh My Gat das a lil too expensive its worrttthhh iitt Yas it is for da Badassness
Pokemon master!
I suck at Tekken lol
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Ryme Intrinseca
1754
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Posted - 2014.09.07 21:24:00 -
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Nice video, shame about the song :P |
saxonmish
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
401
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Posted - 2014.09.07 23:05:00 -
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Ryme Intrinseca wrote:Nice video, shame about the song :P
Thanks and sorry i cant please everyone :P
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Kyr Kitar
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.09.07 23:23:00 -
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Arcturis Vanguard wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:People like you are the reason the ScR is getting castrated =.= Other then that great video... You mean people who have excellent situational awareness
Wait what? All his videos are either with a proto caldari scout or a team with someone who has such vision. If he did this in an assault suit without a squad he wouldn't be half as effective. He's got excellent gungame of course but let's be honest, the completeness of the TACNET makes all the difference. Being able to charge a shot and literally walk towards a target behind a wall 25-30meters away is rather... overpowered, considering the target is a militia fit that has absolutely no idea he's coming around the corner. I'm not hating on scouts or their radar, I play scout most of the time, but you have to admit it makes all the difference in videos like this. You can call it situational awareness but really half of it is just info pre-engaging a target. Now his gungame and the fact he has nice gear as well make all the difference in the outcome of the battles of course (I would have died waaay more if I tried this) but fact remains that TACNET info is king.
I assume the PRO logi who died like 5 or 6 times (once in a lesser suit I think) wasn't having a very good day even though he took top spot with 0/11. |
saxonmish
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
401
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Posted - 2014.09.08 06:24:00 -
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Kyr Kitar wrote:Arcturis Vanguard wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:People like you are the reason the ScR is getting castrated =.= Other then that great video... You mean people who have excellent situational awareness Wait what? All his videos are either with a proto caldari scout or a team with someone who has such vision. If he did this in an assault suit without a squad he wouldn't be half as effective. He's got excellent gungame of course but let's be honest, the completeness of the TACNET makes all the difference. Being able to charge a shot and literally walk towards a target behind a wall 25-30meters away is rather... overpowered, considering the target is a militia fit that has absolutely no idea he's coming around the corner. I'm not hating on scouts or their radar, I play scout most of the time, but you have to admit it makes all the difference in videos like this. You can call it situational awareness but really half of it is just info pre-engaging a target. Now his gungame and the fact he has nice gear as well make all the difference in the outcome of the battles of course (I would have died waaay more if I tried this) but fact remains that TACNET info is king. I assume the PRO logi who died like 5 or 6 times (once in a lesser suit I think) wasn't having a very good day even though he took top spot with 0/11.
That militia guy at the end was a pro scout through the whole thing, he was using pro NK's, so not my fault i made him wear militia gear.
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Kyr Kitar
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
74
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Posted - 2014.09.08 07:33:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:Kyr Kitar wrote:Arcturis Vanguard wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:People like you are the reason the ScR is getting castrated =.= Other then that great video... You mean people who have excellent situational awareness Wait what? All his videos are either with a proto caldari scout or a team with someone who has such vision. If he did this in an assault suit without a squad he wouldn't be half as effective. He's got excellent gungame of course but let's be honest, the completeness of the TACNET makes all the difference. Being able to charge a shot and literally walk towards a target behind a wall 25-30meters away is rather... overpowered, considering the target is a militia fit that has absolutely no idea he's coming around the corner. I'm not hating on scouts or their radar, I play scout most of the time, but you have to admit it makes all the difference in videos like this. You can call it situational awareness but really half of it is just info pre-engaging a target. Now his gungame and the fact he has nice gear as well make all the difference in the outcome of the battles of course (I would have died waaay more if I tried this) but fact remains that TACNET info is king. I assume the PRO logi who died like 5 or 6 times (once in a lesser suit I think) wasn't having a very good day even though he took top spot with 0/11. That militia guy at the end was a pro scout through the whole thing, he was using pro NK's, so not my fault i made him wear militia gear.
Fair enough but that doesn't matter. It boils down to the scout suits being incredibly powerful EWAR wise versus having absolutely no visibility on the TACNET. In theory medium suits can see all heavy suits on the radar so they would have a 'distinct advantage' over them, able to plan their attack. But in practice, the radar doesn't register far enough for you to plan an attack vs anything really. You might end up seeing a red dot with your medium suit but that just means you are quite close to a red heavy or commando, something you might not want to be doing in the first place if you could have avoided it. Whereas the scout suits give such a gigantic heap of intel (and to be honest I am still baffled by your amount of intel. I play scout though not at proto level and you see so much more than me, were you also using the shared scans from that squadmate?). You just know where everyone is before they even realise you are in the neighbourhood. This gives a big advantage. If you had to run this level without such scans I think you would have died a few more times and got quite a few less kills. You'd probably still go 20/4 but that is quite the difference. When I try to do what you do I always get shot in the back by scouts or just get some long-range rounds pumped into me from afar. It's like, combined with being a good player you also get very lucky with such things. There is a part where you are near their redline, turn around and walk back undefended in the open quite a bit - I would ALWAYS die if I tried this... someone with a rail rifle would just get me in a second from 80-90 meters... You got a scout a couple of times but died to one as well. If there were 2-3 more PRO scouts in that game you would, maybe, have died a few more times too. Another bit of luck? I rarely play games where there are less than 3 proper scouts dismembering everyone they see. Maybe I am just always on the other end of the deal (always play vs squads and rarely have any on my team). I have commented on some of your vids before and do notice quite a few people in MLT suits. I know it's not your fault, you can't help what you come up against. But I'd rather you'd upload a video where you meet another good squad for instance and you go 15/3 or 16/5...
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Rei Shepard
The Rainbow Effect
1780
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Posted - 2014.09.08 08:07:00 -
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Kyr Kitar wrote:saxonmish wrote:Kyr Kitar wrote:Arcturis Vanguard wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:People like you are the reason the ScR is getting castrated =.= Other then that great video... You mean people who have excellent situational awareness Wait what? All his videos are either with a proto caldari scout or a team with someone who has such vision. If he did this in an assault suit without a squad he wouldn't be half as effective. He's got excellent gungame of course but let's be honest, the completeness of the TACNET makes all the difference. Being able to charge a shot and literally walk towards a target behind a wall 25-30meters away is rather... overpowered, considering the target is a militia fit that has absolutely no idea he's coming around the corner. I'm not hating on scouts or their radar, I play scout most of the time, but you have to admit it makes all the difference in videos like this. You can call it situational awareness but really half of it is just info pre-engaging a target. Now his gungame and the fact he has nice gear as well make all the difference in the outcome of the battles of course (I would have died waaay more if I tried this) but fact remains that TACNET info is king. I assume the PRO logi who died like 5 or 6 times (once in a lesser suit I think) wasn't having a very good day even though he took top spot with 0/11. That militia guy at the end was a pro scout through the whole thing, he was using pro NK's, so not my fault i made him wear militia gear. Fair enough but that doesn't matter. It boils down to the scout suits being incredibly powerful EWAR wise versus having absolutely no visibility on the TACNET. In theory medium suits can see all heavy suits on the radar so they would have a 'distinct advantage' over them, able to plan their attack. But in practice, the radar doesn't register far enough for you to plan an attack vs anything really. You might end up seeing a red dot with your medium suit but that just means you are quite close to a red heavy or commando, something you might not want to be doing in the first place if you could have avoided it. Whereas the scout suits give such a gigantic heap of intel (and to be honest I am still baffled by your amount of intel. I play scout though not at proto level and you see so much more than me, were you also using the shared scans from that squadmate?). You just know where everyone is before they even realise you are in the neighbourhood. This gives a big advantage. If you had to run this level without such scans I think you would have died a few more times and got quite a few less kills. You'd probably still go 20/4 but that is quite the difference. When I try to do what you do I always get shot in the back by scouts or just get some long-range rounds pumped into me from afar. It's like, combined with being a good player you also get very lucky with such things. There is a part where you are near their redline, turn around and walk back undefended in the open quite a bit - I would ALWAYS die if I tried this... someone with a rail rifle would just get me in a second from 80-90 meters... You got a scout a couple of times but died to one as well. If there were 2-3 more PRO scouts in that game you would, maybe, have died a few more times too. Another bit of luck? I rarely play games where there are less than 3 proper scouts dismembering everyone they see. Maybe I am just always on the other end of the deal (always play vs squads and rarely have any on my team). I have commented on some of your vids before and do notice quite a few people in MLT suits. I know it's not your fault, you can't help what you come up against. But I'd rather you'd upload a video where you meet another good squad for instance and you go 15/3 or 16/5...
Its really hard to go 15/3 or 16/5 in this game even if there are 2 Full Pro squads against you in this game, because they will get so overconfident and charge at you, that if you are any good, youll be able to pick of quite a few or go through an entire squad of them without blinking.
Pro-Suit does not mean Pro-Player.
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saxonmish
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
401
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Posted - 2014.09.08 11:53:00 -
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I say that all the time, look at heavies they have all this HP but it dont mean nothing if they cant shoot. I was on the bridge map 2 days ago there was 3 people in my squad 2 of them went AV cos the enemy team tried to tank spam (And Failed) and i didn't let the enemy team pass the first quarter of the bridge, i went 68/5 (wasn't recording sadly) but it proves its not skillpoints that matter its skill itself. if an enemy team is anything less than mediocre i will plough through them without them knowing what happened.
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ratamaq doc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
947
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Posted - 2014.09.08 15:11:00 -
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Nice video. Makes me want to try out brick tanking the cal scout. Was there someone in your squad with better precision than you? I only noticed one scout below your scans, and as high as your shields were I assume only one precision enhancer?
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saxonmish
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
402
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Posted - 2014.09.08 17:23:00 -
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ratamaq doc wrote:Nice video. Makes me want to try out brick tanking the cal scout. Was there someone in your squad with better precision than you? I only noticed one scout below your scans, and as high as your shields were I assume only one precision enhancer?
i was the only one in my squad and i run a dammod not an enhancer and thanks :)
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ratamaq doc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
947
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Posted - 2014.09.08 18:31:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:ratamaq doc wrote:Nice video. Makes me want to try out brick tanking the cal scout. Was there someone in your squad with better precision than you? I only noticed one scout below your scans, and as high as your shields were I assume only one precision enhancer? i was the only one in my squad and i run a dammod not an enhancer and thanks :)
Oh wow. Lol so those scouts you were picking up were really bad if they weren't getting under you're natural precision. Wait, how is that even possible, base light frame is 35db and new precision with fill skills on a Cal scout is 36 db. Was this video shot before they removed the Cal's precision or is my mind playing tricks on me and you weren't picking up any scouts with passives?
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saxonmish
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
402
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Posted - 2014.09.08 20:12:00 -
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ratamaq doc wrote:saxonmish wrote:ratamaq doc wrote:Nice video. Makes me want to try out brick tanking the cal scout. Was there someone in your squad with better precision than you? I only noticed one scout below your scans, and as high as your shields were I assume only one precision enhancer? i was the only one in my squad and i run a dammod not an enhancer and thanks :) Oh wow. Lol so those scouts you were picking up were really bad if they weren't getting under you're natural precision. Wait, how is that even possible, base light frame is 35db and new precision with fill skills on a Cal scout is 36 db. Was this video shot before they removed the Cal's precision or is my mind playing tricks on me and you weren't picking up any scouts with passives?
this was like 4 days ago and there was a cloaked pro logi
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