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Kin Cat Another Clone in the Wall 27	Posted - 2014.09.05 17:11:00 - [1] - Quote Think about it what if someone doesn't like the orange one? They won't give you any money that's what. Also you might as well take the Sentinel A-1 BPO out of the equation because combat rifles are going to obliterate them, and it won't be able to kill proto heavies anymore. It will likely struggle to take advanced ones out now that the projectiles are getting a buff to armor. Don't even bother selling this it won't be worth running a basic heavy anymore.
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 2290	Posted - 2014.09.05 17:18:00 - [2] - Quote level 1 heavies are still very, very useful... "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3067	Posted - 2014.09.05 17:20:00 - [3] - Quote I'm a little confused as to why people are so upset over the change. Shield suits have had to deal with a +20/-20 damage profile for a very long time, so why are Sentinels so upset about the -15/+15 for projectiles? Hotfix Delta Sentinel eHP Calcs
Aria Gomes The New Age Outlaws 454	Posted - 2014.09.05 17:20:00 - [4] - Quote I just wish there were Minmatar Scout BPOs with different colors.
Kin Cat Another Clone in the Wall 27	Posted - 2014.09.05 17:21:00 - [5] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: level 1 heavies are still very, very useful... you just watch what happens when CRs and HMGs get a bonus to armor. just ******* watch. i'll likely have to start using an advanced burst heavy to compensate
Logi Bro Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 3337	Posted - 2014.09.05 17:30:00 - [6] - Quote Kin Cat wrote: Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: level 1 heavies are still very, very useful... you just watch what happens when CRs and HMGs get a bonus to armor. just ******* watch. i'll likely have to start using an advanced burst heavy to compensate CRs and HMGs already have a bonus to armor, it's just going to be increased slightly. So yeah, I'm already watching, and it's fine. SP Sinks? Fixed.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3069	Posted - 2014.09.05 18:15:00 - [7] - Quote Kin Cat wrote: Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: level 1 heavies are still very, very useful... you just watch what happens when CRs and HMGs get a bonus to armor. just ******* watch. i'll likely have to start using an advanced burst heavy to compensate Base eHP after Skills, Natural Weakness/Resist, Sentinel Resist Bonus, and Weapon Proficiency (All to V). Assumed no modules to show how Standard Sentinel will perform, addition of modules will boost eHP further, obviously. Amarr Sentinel (-5/10) Profile 1172 total eHP (-10/10) Profile 1198 total eHP (-15/15) Profile 1196 total eHP (-20/20) Profile 1202 eHP so eHP of a Standard Amarr Sentinel will actually increase with this change. This is because its shield resists will increase by 5% more than the armor weakness increases, causing a slight net increase in overall eHP. Hotfix Delta Sentinel eHP Calcs
Kin Cat Another Clone in the Wall 27	Posted - 2014.09.05 18:19:00 - [8] - Quote and that increase is shield based we lose our shields often, and once we do we are screwed. plus Rattati took away the basic's high slot our regen is off the charts terribad
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3069	Posted - 2014.09.05 18:27:00 - [9] - Quote Kin Cat wrote: and that increase is shield based we lose our shields often, and once we do we are screwed. plus Rattati took away the basic's high slot our regen is off the charts terribad And that's the exchange you make for having more low slots, when plate offer basically double the benefit to shield extenders. Hotfix Delta Sentinel eHP Calcs
Thumb Green Raymond James Corp 1390	Posted - 2014.09.05 18:48:00 - [10] - Quote The orange set is pretty fugly and while I do like the green set, I wouldn't give CCP any money for it. So if there isn't an event that hands some out then I won't be getting any; unless Legion comes out and is what Dust was supposed to be. We don't kick ass, we kick dick and we kick it hard. Join us in our Pumpkin Crushing

Kin Cat Another Clone in the Wall 27	Posted - 2014.09.05 19:23:00 - [11] - Quote no that's what ******* rattati did to us in hotfix charlie. we didnt ask for our high slot to be taken. the pansy ass forum meta made up of scouts asked for it
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3071	Posted - 2014.09.05 19:27:00 - [12] - Quote Kin Cat wrote: no that's what ******* rattati did to us in hotfix charlie. we didnt ask for our high slot to be taken. the pansy ass forum meta made up of scouts asked for it Well, you did gain a low in exchange for a high...if you want to speak strictly in terms of HP, that's actually a good deal. Hotfix Delta Sentinel eHP Calcs
Death Shadow117 Murphys-Law 351	Posted - 2014.09.05 19:28:00 - [13] - Quote Kin Cat wrote: no that's what ******* rattati did to us in hotfix charlie. we didnt ask for our high slot to be taken. the pansy ass forum meta made up of scouts asked for it Umm bad scouts probably i didnt mind how it was before charlie i would rather get charlie undone. Why?
Kin Cat Another Clone in the Wall 27	Posted - 2014.09.05 20:24:00 - [14] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Kin Cat wrote: no that's what ******* rattati did to us in hotfix charlie. we didnt ask for our high slot to be taken. the pansy ass forum meta made up of scouts asked for it Well, you did gain a low in exchange for a high...if you want to speak strictly in terms of HP, that's actually a good deal. i doubt we gained HP against remotes or a 20/20 profile projectile when we lost that shield
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 2293	Posted - 2014.09.05 20:33:00 - [15] - Quote Kin Cat wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Kin Cat wrote: no that's what ***** rattati did to us in hotfix charlie. we didnt ask for our high slot to be taken. the pansy ass forum meta made up of scouts asked for it Well, you did gain a low in exchange for a high...if you want to speak strictly in terms of HP, that's actually a good deal. i doubt we gained HP against remotes or a 20/20 profile projectile when we lost that shield You did, considering you lost 72.6 shields and gained ~140 armor from the deal. "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire**
Joel II X Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 3287	Posted - 2014.09.05 20:48:00 - [16] - Quote Aria Gomes wrote: I just wish there were Minmatar Scout BPOs with different colors. This. I demand a neon yellow/black Minja. You may call me "The Stinger".
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3080	Posted - 2014.09.05 21:54:00 - [17] - Quote Kin Cat wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Kin Cat wrote: no that's what ******* rattati did to us in hotfix charlie. we didnt ask for our high slot to be taken. the pansy ass forum meta made up of scouts asked for it Well, you did gain a low in exchange for a high...if you want to speak strictly in terms of HP, that's actually a good deal. i doubt we gained HP against remotes or a 20/20 profile projectile when we lost that shield A complex shield extender gives you 72.6 HP, with a 20% reduction against explosive that increases your eHP by 90.75. A complex armor plate give you 148.5 HP, with a 20% weakness against explosives that gives you an increase of 123.75 HP. Trading a high for a low, if using complex modules, increases your eHP by ~ 33HP in the case of taking explosive damage. Hotfix Delta Sentinel eHP Calcs
Kin Cat Another Clone in the Wall 27	Posted - 2014.09.05 22:05:00 - [18] - Quote lol then gallente have the right to complain
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3083	Posted - 2014.09.05 22:12:00 - [19] - Quote Kin Cat wrote: lol then gallente have the right to complain Except that they have a higher shield pool and lower armor making them more of a natural hybrid tank, and thus less affected by damage type since its only the difference in Armor vs Shields that actually experiences a change. Essentially the closer your armor HP and shield HP is, the less damage profile actually matters. Hotfix Delta Sentinel eHP Calcs
Rusty Shallows Caldari State 2098	Posted - 2014.09.05 22:25:00 - [20] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: I'm a little confused as to why people are so upset over the change. Shield suits have had to deal with a +20/-20 damage profile for a very long time, so why are Sentinels so upset about the -15/+15 for projectiles? My Main can only use Sentinels and this change doesn't bother me. The lowest health Amarr Sentinel I have is 450 shields & 915 Armor, just over a 2 to 1 ratio favoring armor. With the -15/+15 from -5/+10 is a 2 to 1 difference-of-change favoring shield tanking. The change makes it negligibly better at killing this Sentinel where the difference might as well be zero. On the more tanked fits the difference grows more significant. But once you're rocking 1000 to 1200 armor do you really care anymore? Likes are my candy and in these forums every day is Halloween. XD Sweets for everyone! Forums > Game

Zindorak 1.U.P 823	Posted - 2014.09.05 22:27:00 - [21] - Quote If you have the skill at 5 it may be useful for ISK grinds as its free Pokemon master! I suck at Tekken lol
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3084	Posted - 2014.09.05 22:29:00 - [22] - Quote Rusty Shallows wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: I'm a little confused as to why people are so upset over the change. Shield suits have had to deal with a +20/-20 damage profile for a very long time, so why are Sentinels so upset about the -15/+15 for projectiles? My Main can only use Sentinels and this change doesn't bother me. The lowest health Amarr Sentinel I have is 450 shields & 915 Armor, just over a 2 to 1 ratio favoring armor. With the -15/+15 from -5/+10 is a 2 to 1 difference-of-change favoring shield tanking. The change makes it negligibly better at killing this Sentinel where the difference might as well be zero. On the more tanked fits the difference grows more significant. But once you're rocking 1000 to 1200 armor do you really care anymore? Less significant that you might think. Check out the link in my signature, I do a full breakdown of all damage types against all sentinels, as well as a comparison for the potential options for the new Projectile profile. Hotfix Delta Sentinel eHP Calcs
Kin Cat Another Clone in the Wall 29	Posted - 2014.09.05 22:29:00 - [23] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Kin Cat wrote: lol then gallente have the right to complain Except that they have a higher shield pool and lower armor making them more of a natural hybrid tank, and thus less affected by damage type since its only the difference in Armor vs Shields that actually experiences a change. Essentially the closer your armor HP and shield HP is, the less damage profile actually matters. well they really don't have much easier of a time against hybrid rail now that they took some of their armor away top 10 things that scare me the most in my amarr heavy a decent red heavy the above's logi scouts remotes any shield tanking suit rail rifles combat rifles shotguns forge guns sniper rifles edit: oh and shield tanking suits are about to go up to number 3 in that list soon
Kin Cat Another Clone in the Wall 29	Posted - 2014.09.05 22:32:00 - [24] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Quote: On the more tanked fits the difference grows more significant. But once you're rocking 1000 to 1200 armor do you really care anymore? Less significant that you might think. Check out the link in my signature, I do a full breakdown of all damage types against all sentinels, as well as a comparison for the potential options for the new Projectile profile. pokey's right if there was a module that made you strafe faster in the low slot i'd use it so fast it's not even funny. i'd drop two plates for two of those. "joint lubricator" or something it would be called
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3084	Posted - 2014.09.05 22:35:00 - [25] - Quote Kin Cat wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Kin Cat wrote: lol then gallente have the right to complain Except that they have a higher shield pool and lower armor making them more of a natural hybrid tank, and thus less affected by damage type since its only the difference in Armor vs Shields that actually experiences a change. Essentially the closer your armor HP and shield HP is, the less damage profile actually matters. well they really don't have much easier of a time against hybrid rail now that they took some of their armor away top 10 things that scare me the most in my amarr heavy a decent red heavy the above's logi scouts remotes any shield tanking suit rail rifles combat rifles shotguns forge guns sniper rifles Again, they resist 15% of the rail damage to their armor, plus because they have 2 highs their shields also increased making the difference between armor and shields smaller, meaning that the effect of damage type is also smaller. In fact the Gallente are the strongest sentinel against Rails now with a max eHP of 1,726, followed by the Amarr at 1,708. Hotfix Delta Sentinel eHP Calcs
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3087	Posted - 2014.09.05 22:43:00 - [26] - Quote Kin Cat wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Quote: On the more tanked fits the difference grows more significant. But once you're rocking 1000 to 1200 armor do you really care anymore? Less significant that you might think. Check out the link in my signature, I do a full breakdown of all damage types against all sentinels, as well as a comparison for the potential options for the new Projectile profile. pokey's right if there was a module that made you strafe faster in the low slot i'd use it so fast it's not even funny. i'd drop two plates for two of those. "joint lubricator" or something it would be called LMAO ok thank you, 'Joint Lube' made me crack up in the middle of the office here. They're all looking at me like I'm a lunatic but that's pretty funny. As for low slot speed mods, one module we used to have for vehicles was Nanofiber structure. Basically increased movement speed at the cost of armor. It was amazing for shield vehicles, I wish we had it still Hotfix Delta Sentinel eHP Calcs
Kin Cat Another Clone in the Wall 30	Posted - 2014.09.05 22:47:00 - [27] - Quote oh god... i just realized biotics would make sex great
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3088	Posted - 2014.09.05 22:49:00 - [28] - Quote Kin Cat wrote: oh god... i just realized biotics would make sex great Armor Plates, Cardiac Regs, and KinKats. Stay Harder, Last Longer, Move Faster! We're gonna get this thread locked and me banned Hotfix Delta Sentinel eHP Calcs
Kin Cat Another Clone in the Wall 31	Posted - 2014.09.05 22:59:00 - [29] - Quote tired of your husband's physical abuse? don't waste time with the authorities! try our new myofibril stimulants! legally cannot be sold to men. not available in california. CCP is not responsible for any marriage-related deaths
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3088	Posted - 2014.09.05 23:02:00 - [30] - Quote yeah ok lets not get into domestic abuse, that's crossing the line. Hotfix Delta Sentinel eHP Calcs



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