No

V/AV is more balanced now than it was back then. How about be look at bringing back the old modules and introducing them into this new more balanced environment, to make vehicles more interesting.

V/AV is more balanced now than it was back then. How about be look at bringing back the old modules and introducing them into this new more balanced environment, to make vehicles more interesting.

You would have to de-nerf AV entirely to cope with marauders. They ran 7k HP sagaris tank on average. 8000-9000 on the Surya.

They were considered largely OP and could not be shot down in a single mag of any weapon even when assault forges had a base charge time of 2.5 seconds. The forge guns also hit harder, had full benefit of proficiency against armor AND shields, and had 10% damage mods.

I was able to solo them but it was usually a 6/1 suit loss/kill of a full prototype fat fit with three damage mods racked in the high slots.

In the current AV environment re-introducing marauders as they were in chromosome would require the systematic reversal of every single AV nerf since then.

As marauders were in the current AV meta they would be utterly unstoppable. I disagree they were OP but they were incredibly difficult (read: rewarding) to solo and difficult to two-man focus fire. A single AV gunner had no chance of killing any marauder with a single magazine. It was a five-shot dead minimum to kill a sagaris crapfit with an Ishukone Assault Forge. Six for a good one. Six for a crapfit Surya, eight for a good one.

Adding marauders and enforcers would require the systematic reversal of all AV nerfs in order to make them tacklable. They wpuld be toxic to the current meta and be nerfed within a month or removed for rebalance.

You would have to de-nerf AV entirely to cope with marauders. They ran 7k HP sagaris tank on average. 8000-9000 on the Surya.

They were considered largely OP and could not be shot down in a single mag of any weapon even when assault forges had a base charge time of 2.5 seconds. The forge guns also hit harder, had full benefit of proficiency against armor AND shields, and had 10% damage mods.

I was able to solo them but it was usually a 6/1 suit loss/kill of a full prototype fat fit with three damage mods racked in the high slots.

In the current AV environment re-introducing marauders as they were in chromosome would require the systematic reversal of every single AV nerf since then.

As marauders were in the current AV meta they would be utterly unstoppable. I disagree they were OP but they were incredibly difficult (read: rewarding) to solo and difficult to two-man focus fire. A single AV gunner had no chance of killing any marauder with a single magazine. It was a five-shot dead minimum to kill a sagaris crapfit with an Ishukone Assault Forge. Six for a good one. Six for a crapfit Surya, eight for a good one.

Adding marauders and enforcers would require the systematic reversal of all AV nerfs in order to make them tacklable. They wpuld be toxic to the current meta and be nerfed within a month or removed for rebalance.

ishukone forge 3shot a gunlogi, if this for you is normal i want my sagaris back: proto Av for ADV tank

Are you vehicle pilot?

If so, what do you have against variety? You like it simple? There are already tons of other games with simple vehicle gameplay that do it better and don't have to invest any ingame currency on those simple vehicles.

If not, then what do you have against this?

I am a pilot, mainly ADSs.

I did some vehicling prior to 1.7 and I must say that shield vehicles were terrible. Regen was low and boosters weren't too effective, hardeners lasted 5sec, the best counter tank vs tank was to ram us, small missiles had almost no splash or splash damage, remote repairers were a hassle and not very effective, etc etc.

Honestly, I'm not satisfied with the stair quo either: I hate that there are only 2-3 viable fits per vehicle, lack of module variety and low slot counts to utilize non-hp mods, etc etc, but I feel that another total revamp would be better than going back, even if you kept a few current features.

no reverts, i just wat the modules, turret variants, and removed vehicles back, then we can rebalance from there.

Ishukone forge STILL 3-4 shots a Gunnlogi. it's the meta CCP has retained.

In order of difficulty from highest to lowest in chromosome meta:

Surya: 7-8 shots from IAFG
Sagaris: 5-6 shots from IAFG
Madrugar: 4 shots from IAFG
Gunnlogi: 3 shots from IAFG
Logi Dropship: 2 shots from IAFG
Logi LAV: 2 shots from IAFG (MAXED)
Soma: Instapop from IAFG
Sica: Instapop from IAFG
LAVs: Instapop from militia AV because no one bothered to fit a tank