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DeathwindRising
ROGUE RELICS VP Gaming Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.05 05:17:00 -
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im really against the rail rifle amount of recoil. for a long range weapon, low recoil is just as important as accuracy. the video is sloppy as hell (it was a last minute decision) but it shows just how insane the recoil is.
at what point can we make use of it automatic fire if the recoil is this bad? sure at close range you can hip fire with better accuracy than ads, but at range the rail rifle gets a mind of its own.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpl0vMx8_cU&list=UUj4cCHkz2Q-x2juvDj3wiqg
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SGT NOVA STAR
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Posted - 2014.09.05 05:44:00 -
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for the amount of damage it can dish out, the recoil is fine. seems like your the only one that can't control it. your not suppose to hold it down forever, it takes SOME skill to actually use. I suggest keep practicing, or get proto level. they just got an unnoticeable nerf awhile back, the last thing they need is a buff.
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Sgt Kirk
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Posted - 2014.09.05 05:48:00 -
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I don't really think the damage on the Rail Rifle is the issue
The magnetic aim assistance on the Rail rifle is insanely potent so it's damage application is through the roof.
You can off the the right side of a person and you will still land hits on them, try doing the same on the Duvolle Tactical Rifle, you have to be dead on with it.
As much as it is Caldari I'm fine with it. CCP just needs to fix the weird magnetic lock-on rounds the rail rifle fires and we should be good.
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I-Shayz-I
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Posted - 2014.09.05 07:16:00 -
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Someone corrected me on this earlier...
it's not recoil...but rather ADS dispersion. In other words, YES, there is a value in the game for how much dispersion a weapon has while ADS
The ACR and AR both start out with 0 dispersion and gradually get a larger dispersion The ASCR and RR both have a steady dispersion that does not change.
Also, get your RR operation to 5 if you haven't yet. That was my biggest issue with the rifle.
Turst me, even at level 4 the dispersion is just big enough that it was giving me a lot of problems.
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DeathwindRising
ROGUE RELICS VP Gaming Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.05 07:25:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:Someone corrected me on this earlier...
it's not recoil...but rather ADS dispersion. In other words, YES, there is a value in the game for how much dispersion a weapon has while ADS
The ACR and AR both start out with 0 dispersion and gradually get a larger dispersion The ASCR and RR both have a steady dispersion that does not change.
Also, get your RR operation to 5 if you haven't yet. That was my biggest issue with the rifle.
Turst me, even at level 4 the dispersion is just big enough that it was giving me a lot of problems. That final 5% kick decrease helped a ton for some reason. I couldn't even use the standard rifle before then.
why is ADS dispersion different from hip fire dispersion? why wouldnt it be the same?
ive had prof 5 for months. i guess i just notice it more because im using it around 70m
i wish it had more accuracy at range. i cant get more than a few rounds before i lose accuracy |
Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.09.05 07:43:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:
The magnetic aim assistance on the Rail rifle is insanely potent so it's damage application is through the roof.
lol wtf?
dat forum meta. so if I understand this correctly, RR has a magnetic aim assistance that other rifles aren't getting?
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BL4CKST4R
La Muerte Eterna Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.09.05 10:12:00 -
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Only if the hip-fire dispersion is increased :)
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Zindorak
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Posted - 2014.09.05 11:28:00 -
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No in fact it needs to be increase and then Cal assault should fix that
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2014.09.05 12:03:00 -
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There are no magnetic bullets.
There is a lagtime difference between where you see an enemy dropsuit and where the server has him. This creates a few interesting visual glitches when you are aiming at the correct "actual" position while leading with the rail rifle and forge gun. |
Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.09.05 13:58:00 -
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DeathwindRising wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:Someone corrected me on this earlier...
it's not recoil...but rather ADS dispersion. In other words, YES, there is a value in the game for how much dispersion a weapon has while ADS
The ACR and AR both start out with 0 dispersion and gradually get a larger dispersion The ASCR and RR both have a steady dispersion that does not change.
Also, get your RR operation to 5 if you haven't yet. That was my biggest issue with the rifle.
Turst me, even at level 4 the dispersion is just big enough that it was giving me a lot of problems. That final 5% kick decrease helped a ton for some reason. I couldn't even use the standard rifle before then. why is ADS dispersion different from hip fire dispersion? why wouldnt it be the same? ive had prof 5 for months. i guess i just notice it more because im using it around 70m i wish it had more accuracy at range. i cant get more than a few rounds before i lose accuracy
In rl ads dispersion is different than hip fire..go shoot a gun simple fact of the matter is having the but of your rifle against your breast makes the gun more steady than holding it at ur side n spraying randomly
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Mauren NOON
The Exemplars
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Posted - 2014.09.05 14:06:00 -
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DeathwindRising wrote:im really against the rail rifle amount of recoil. for a long range weapon, low recoil is just as important as accuracy. the video is sloppy as hell (it was a last minute decision) but it shows just how insane the recoil is. at what point can we make use of it automatic fire if the recoil is this bad? sure at close range you can hip fire with better accuracy than ads, but at range the rail rifle gets a mind of its own. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpl0vMx8_cU&list=UUj4cCHkz2Q-x2juvDj3wiqgmaybe a recoil reduction should be the caldari assault bonus Not until the magsec gets a buff
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
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Posted - 2014.09.05 14:24:00 -
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DeathwindRising wrote:im really against the rail rifle amount of recoil. for a long range weapon, low recoil is just as important as accuracy. the video is sloppy as hell (it was a last minute decision) but it shows just how insane the recoil is. at what point can we make use of it automatic fire if the recoil is this bad? sure at close range you can hip fire with better accuracy than ads, but at range the rail rifle gets a mind of its own. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpl0vMx8_cU&list=UUj4cCHkz2Q-x2juvDj3wiqgmaybe a recoil reduction should be the caldari assault bonus Recoil Is fine Recoil starts off non existent, then becomes exponentially worse as you keep shooting The recoil can never get this bad in actual gameplay (without the infinite ammo bug). Also, the recoil increases faster if you hip fire some bullets then ads
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Jack 3enimble
Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.09.05 14:57:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:No in fact it needs to be increase and then Cal assault should fix that
No it needs to stay the way it is and Cal assault should get a kick reduction bonus. |
Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.09.05 15:52:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:
The magnetic aim assistance on the Rail rifle is insanely potent so it's damage application is through the roof.
lol wtf? dat forum meta. so if I understand this correctly, RR has a magnetic aim assistance that other rifles aren't getting? whatever it is it's insanely easier to land shots with the rail than with any other rifle.
I said however that the damage is perfectly fine where it is.
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