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Anmol Singh
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Posted - 2014.09.04 23:52:00 -
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Advance Caldari Assaults walking around with more EHP than my Proto Minmatar heavy. :(
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.04 23:55:00 -
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But can they fit a >9000dps ++ber death machine?
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Yeeeuuuupppp
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.09.04 23:57:00 -
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It's fuckin re.tarded. An adv can have about 588 shields and as much armor as it wants (haven't seen anyone dual tank yet, but seeing as how you could get about 900 total hp AND a proto weapon, I don't think it'll be a problem). GG caldari loyalists, you've predicted this genius idea
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Tech De Ra
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Posted - 2014.09.05 00:05:00 -
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Yeeeuuuupppp wrote:It's fuckin re.tarded. An adv can have about 588 shields and as much armor as it wants (haven't seen anyone dual tank yet, but seeing as how you could get about 900 total hp AND a proto weapon, I don't think it'll be a problem). GG caldari loyalists, you've predicted this genius idea
Im amazed that:
1: you haven't seen dual tanking in pub matches, because its pretty common
2: you think its a good idea, because you sacrifice some pretty amazing stats for that terrible armor
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Yeeeuuuupppp
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.09.05 00:09:00 -
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Tech De Ra wrote:Yeeeuuuupppp wrote:It's fuckin re.tarded. An adv can have about 588 shields and as much armor as it wants (haven't seen anyone dual tank yet, but seeing as how you could get about 900 total hp AND a proto weapon, I don't think it'll be a problem). GG caldari loyalists, you've predicted this genius idea Im amazed that: 1: you haven't seen dual tanking in pub matches, because its pretty common 2: you think its a good idea, because you sacrifice some pretty amazing stats for that terrible armor I've seen dual tanking, but I haven't seen a caldari assault match his armor with his 500 shields. Some people would rather have a good tank > regen and dps. I wouldn't but anything higher than enhanced reactive on any of my assaults, I like being decently fast
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.09.05 00:12:00 -
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The most HP you can squeeze out of a Caldari ADV Assault is around 1089 HP with 2 Complex Extenders, 2 Enhanced Extenders, and 2 Complex plates....and like an SMG.
Proto Min Sentinel can fit 3 complex extenders and 2 complex plates for a total of 1546 HP. That's not counting resistance bonuses either.
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Jack 3enimble
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Posted - 2014.09.05 00:24:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Advance Caldari Assaults walking around with more EHP than my Proto Minmatar heavy. :(
In that case one of you two is running a terrible setup. |
Patrlck 56
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Posted - 2014.09.05 00:25:00 -
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Caldari assaults can't carry six kin burst HMGs... |
Anmol Singh
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Posted - 2014.09.05 02:09:00 -
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Patrlck 56 wrote:Caldari assaults can't carry six kin burst HMGs...
Minmatar can't fit them..
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Anmol Singh
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Posted - 2014.09.05 02:11:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:The most HP you can squeeze out of a Caldari ADV Assault is around 1089 HP with 2 Complex Extenders, 2 Enhanced Extenders, and 2 Complex plates....and like an SMG.
Proto Min Sentinel can fit 3 complex extenders and 2 complex plates for a total of 1546 HP. That's not counting resistance bonuses either.
3 extenders if you want to have horrible recharge rates and 2 plates if you want to be slow as Sh*t like the other heavies and have long recharge delays. ADV cal assault will run faster, tank more, smaller hit box. ect.
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Anmol Singh
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Posted - 2014.09.05 02:12:00 -
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Jack 3enimble wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:Advance Caldari Assaults walking around with more EHP than my Proto Minmatar heavy. :( In that case one of you two is running a terrible setup.
If you brick tank a minmatar heavy. you are a awful player.
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.09.05 02:17:00 -
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I really think you're exaggerating heavily.
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BlazeXYZ
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Posted - 2014.09.05 02:17:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Advance Caldari Assaults walking around with more EHP than my Proto Minmatar heavy. :(
Yup so true, but what makes this suit succeed is its speed and stamina regen.
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Anmol Singh
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Posted - 2014.09.05 02:20:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:I really think you're exaggerating heavily. No exaggeration.
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.09.05 02:23:00 -
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Yeeeuuuupppp wrote:It's fuckin re.tarded. An adv can have about 588 shields and as much armor as it wants (haven't seen anyone dual tank yet, but seeing as how you could get about 900 total hp AND a proto weapon, I don't think it'll be a problem). GG caldari loyalists, you've predicted this genius idea Only the foolish dual tank
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Posted - 2014.09.05 02:24:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Jack 3enimble wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:Advance Caldari Assaults walking around with more EHP than my Proto Minmatar heavy. :( In that case one of you two is running a terrible setup. If you brick tank a minmatar heavy. you are a awful player.
Lol, Man who ever puts plates on a speed heavy doesn't deserve to skill into it. It's just wrong.
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.05 02:28:00 -
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Yeeeuuuupppp wrote:It's fuckin re.tarded. An adv can have about 588 shields and as much armor as it wants (haven't seen anyone dual tank yet, but seeing as how you could get about 900 total hp AND a proto weapon, I don't think it'll be a problem). GG caldari loyalists, you've predicted this genius idea As much armor as he wants with 2 lows? Lol, no **** people dual tank the shield recharge sucks and isn't worth it.
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
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Posted - 2014.09.05 02:44:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Advance Caldari Assaults walking around with more EHP than my Proto Minmatar heavy. :( to be honest im laughing my ass off at the fact some one is complaining about shield tanking suits.. +1 to you good sir..
now.. down to business.. their core skills vs yours.. dual tanking is a sin we all partake in.. dual tanks are weak since they are not specialised in 1 spesific role.. ie armor = brawler, shield = long range skirmish fighter.. 1 cooked flux and a good spray from a CR or HMG and they will drop like panties at a drug fueled rave..
now lets take a second look at your argument.. now weigh the EHP of the cal assault vs the Amarr or gallente assaults and then weigh all 3 vs minmatar.. minny will come out rather low in EHP but has monster speed/sprint in comparison.. so comparing a Speed race suit (min) vs a major shield tank race suit you will get a bit butthurt at the difference.. but hell isnt minmatar sentinel like as fast as some of the assaults already? and can wield the fart-gun of doom! aka the burst HMG
but in all seriousness.. shield tanking is the unloved unwanted red-headed stepchild of the types of tanking.. we need active shield reppers not just delayed "passive" regeneration
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Anmol Singh
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Posted - 2014.09.05 02:45:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Yeeeuuuupppp wrote:It's fuckin re.tarded. An adv can have about 588 shields and as much armor as it wants (haven't seen anyone dual tank yet, but seeing as how you could get about 900 total hp AND a proto weapon, I don't think it'll be a problem). GG caldari loyalists, you've predicted this genius idea As much armor as he wants with 2 lows? Lol, no **** people dual tank the shield recharge sucks and isn't worth it.
People use shield suits but they want to fight like armor suits. They want to stand and deliver while they're suppose to hit and run. If you play the suit right, it can be really good.
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Anmol Singh
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.05 02:48:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:Advance Caldari Assaults walking around with more EHP than my Proto Minmatar heavy. :( to be honest im laughing my ass off at the fact some one is complaining about shield tanking suits.. +1 to you good sir.. now.. down to business.. their core skills vs yours.. dual tanking is a sin we all partake in.. dual tanks are weak since they are not specialised in 1 spesific role.. ie armor = brawler, shield = long range skirmish fighter.. 1 cooked flux and a good spray from a CR or HMG and they will drop like panties at a drug fueled rave.. now lets take a second look at your argument.. now weigh the EHP of the cal assault vs the Amarr or gallente assaults and then weigh all 3 vs minmatar.. minny will come out rather low in EHP but has monster speed/sprint in comparison.. so comparing a Speed race suit (min) vs a major shield tank race suit you will get a bit butthurt at the difference.. but hell isnt minmatar sentinel like as fast as some of the assaults already? and can wield the fart-gun of doom! aka the burst HMG but in all seriousness.. shield tanking is the unloved unwanted red-headed stepchild of the types of tanking.. we need active shield reppers not just delayed "passive" regeneration
Is 450 armor on a shield medium frame ok? Should a Minmatar heavy be = to Caldari/Gallante Medium frames in EHP wise. Minmatar Assault=Caldari/Gallante light suits? Minmatar scout=??
P.S. I don't abuse broken weapons like the Six Kin...
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Posted - 2014.09.05 02:53:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:Advance Caldari Assaults walking around with more EHP than my Proto Minmatar heavy. :( to be honest im laughing my ass off at the fact some one is complaining about shield tanking suits.. +1 to you good sir.. now.. down to business.. their core skills vs yours.. dual tanking is a sin we all partake in.. dual tanks are weak since they are not specialised in 1 spesific role.. ie armor = brawler, shield = long range skirmish fighter.. 1 cooked flux and a good spray from a CR or HMG and they will drop like panties at a drug fueled rave.. now lets take a second look at your argument.. now weigh the EHP of the cal assault vs the Amarr or gallente assaults and then weigh all 3 vs minmatar.. minny will come out rather low in EHP but has monster speed/sprint in comparison.. so comparing a Speed race suit (min) vs a major shield tank race suit you will get a bit butthurt at the difference.. but hell isnt minmatar sentinel like as fast as some of the assaults already? and can wield the fart-gun of doom! aka the burst HMG but in all seriousness.. shield tanking is the unloved unwanted red-headed stepchild of the types of tanking.. we need active shield reppers not just delayed "passive" regeneration
I'm laughing my ass off you were complaining about shield tanks.
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Posted - 2014.09.05 02:56:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Yeeeuuuupppp wrote:It's fuckin re.tarded. An adv can have about 588 shields and as much armor as it wants (haven't seen anyone dual tank yet, but seeing as how you could get about 900 total hp AND a proto weapon, I don't think it'll be a problem). GG caldari loyalists, you've predicted this genius idea As much armor as he wants with 2 lows? Lol, no **** people dual tank the shield recharge sucks and isn't worth it. People use shield suits but they want to fight like armor suits. They want to stand and deliver while they're suppose to hit and run. If you play the suit right, it can be really good. Caldari suits are not designed for hit and run gameplay.
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Posted - 2014.09.05 03:00:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Yeeeuuuupppp wrote:It's fuckin re.tarded. An adv can have about 588 shields and as much armor as it wants (haven't seen anyone dual tank yet, but seeing as how you could get about 900 total hp AND a proto weapon, I don't think it'll be a problem). GG caldari loyalists, you've predicted this genius idea As much armor as he wants with 2 lows? Lol, no **** people dual tank the shield recharge sucks and isn't worth it. People use shield suits but they want to fight like armor suits. They want to stand and deliver while they're suppose to hit and run. If you play the suit right, it can be really good. Caldari suits are not designed for hit and run gameplay.
Indeed they are not.
Their weapons do not really support gank....... they are the kiters of EVE.
Whereas Gallente, Minmatar, and Amarr are all fair brawlers (Amarr being scram range brawlers and not within 6km if possible)
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Posted - 2014.09.05 04:08:00 -
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Yeeeuuuupppp wrote:It's fuckin re.tarded. An adv can have about 588 shields and as much armor as it wants (haven't seen anyone dual tank yet, but seeing as how you could get about 900 total hp AND a proto weapon, I don't think it'll be a problem). GG caldari loyalists, you've predicted this genius idea
An AVD Gallente Assualt can have over 900 armor with ease
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Anmol Singh
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.05 20:22:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Yeeeuuuupppp wrote:It's fuckin re.tarded. An adv can have about 588 shields and as much armor as it wants (haven't seen anyone dual tank yet, but seeing as how you could get about 900 total hp AND a proto weapon, I don't think it'll be a problem). GG caldari loyalists, you've predicted this genius idea As much armor as he wants with 2 lows? Lol, no **** people dual tank the shield recharge sucks and isn't worth it. People use shield suits but they want to fight like armor suits. They want to stand and deliver while they're suppose to hit and run. If you play the suit right, it can be really good. Caldari suits are not designed for hit and run gameplay.
Why? Maybe in eve they are designed for brawling but in Dust, they're made to hit and run.
There have been many times where I go up with super tanked gallante suits and when my shield gets low I hide behind cover and wait about 2 second for my 50+ regen to kick in and pop back out where as I've recoved almost 300+ hp quite fast while hes only recovered about 90. Shields in Dust are set up to hit and run. It's sad a guy like you who is supposedly intelligent still doesn't understand this.
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