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Ld Collins Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 166	Posted - 2014.09.03 19:43:00 - [1] - Quote Serious question though why is it that all long range weapons have small clip sizes but the Rail Rifle who happens to have the longest range have a clip size of 42 while the Tac Ar has 18? Even in close quarters the R.R. is good its not great but its far better then a tac ar in close range. Can we give the tac ar a clip size of 36 just like the breach assualt rifle?
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1313	Posted - 2014.09.03 19:46:00 - [2] - Quote Ld Collins wrote: Serious question though why is it that all long range weapons have small clip sizes but the Rail Rifle who happens to have the longest range have a clip size of 42 while the Tac Ar has 18? Even in close quarters the R.R. is good its not great but its far better then a tac ar in close range. Can we give the tac ar a clip size of 36 just like the breach assualt rifle? because we need a gun for people to cry about every day. today happens to be the rail rifle and its massively OP clip size and sub par DPS. KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer
David Mustane D3M3NT3D M1NDZ 68	Posted - 2014.09.03 19:52:00 - [3] - Quote QQ over a nerfed RR? really? I'm sorry you stand still and my RR murders you. The OP weapon is not the RR, but the ScR. The RR was nerfed, it isn't as great as you think, I have it lvl 5, pro 3, and heavies still out last a clip. The ScR is OP, especially when you cheaters must use a modded controller. RR = fine ScR = OP
Ld Collins Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 166	Posted - 2014.09.03 19:55:00 - [4] - Quote CUSE TOWN333 wrote: Ld Collins wrote: Serious question though why is it that all long range weapons have small clip sizes but the Rail Rifle who happens to have the longest range have a clip size of 42 while the Tac Ar has 18? Even in close quarters the R.R. is good its not great but its far better then a tac ar in close range. Can we give the tac ar a clip size of 36 just like the breach assualt rifle? because we need a gun for people to cry about every day. today happens to be the rail rifle and its massively OP clip size and sub par DPS. It's not that its open it just seems pretty dumb as if assault rifles were forgotten about when new rifles came out. just look at all long range weapons they have small clips except the R.R. You have 18 shots less range and a lower fire rate it makes no sense. The R.R is a breach ar with more range a higher clip and scope.
Ld Collins Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 166	Posted - 2014.09.03 19:57:00 - [5] - Quote David Mustane wrote: QQ over a nerfed RR? really? I'm sorry you stand still and my RR murders you. The OP weapon is not the RR, but the ScR. The RR was nerfed, it isn't as great as you think, I have it lvl 5, pro 3, and heavies still out last a clip. The ScR is OP, especially when you cheaters must use a modded controller. RR = fine ScR = OP Just so you know I didnt ask for a R.R. Nerf I asked for the clip of the tac ar to be increased because its just too low.
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1314	Posted - 2014.09.03 20:04:00 - [6] - Quote Ld Collins wrote: CUSE TOWN333 wrote: Ld Collins wrote: Serious question though why is it that all long range weapons have small clip sizes but the Rail Rifle who happens to have the longest range have a clip size of 42 while the Tac Ar has 18? Even in close quarters the R.R. is good its not great but its far better then a tac ar in close range. Can we give the tac ar a clip size of 36 just like the breach assualt rifle? because we need a gun for people to cry about every day. today happens to be the rail rifle and its massively OP clip size and sub par DPS. It's not that its open it just seems pretty dumb as if assault rifles were forgotten about when new rifles came out. just look at all long range weapons they have small clips except the R.R. You have 18 shots less range and a lower fire rate it makes no sense. The R.R is a breach ar with more range a higher clip and scope. i think it because the assault rifle variants were never suppose to be as good as the other racial rifles. so the Tac AR is the mimic of the scrambler rifle but not as good. if all assault rifle variants were the same as all the other racial rifles then why would anyone skill into anything but assault rifle skill tree? KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer
Ld Collins Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 166	Posted - 2014.09.03 20:27:00 - [7] - Quote CUSE TOWN333 wrote: Ld Collins wrote: CUSE TOWN333 wrote: Ld Collins wrote: Serious question though why is it that all long range weapons have small clip sizes but the Rail Rifle who happens to have the longest range have a clip size of 42 while the Tac Ar has 18? Even in close quarters the R.R. is good its not great but its far better then a tac ar in close range. Can we give the tac ar a clip size of 36 just like the breach assualt rifle? because we need a gun for people to cry about every day. today happens to be the rail rifle and its massively OP clip size and sub par DPS. It's not that its open it just seems pretty dumb as if assault rifles were forgotten about when new rifles came out. just look at all long range weapons they have small clips except the R.R. You have 18 shots less range and a lower fire rate it makes no sense. The R.R is a breach ar with more range a higher clip and scope. i think it because the assault rifle variants were never suppose to be as good as the other racial rifles. so the Tac AR is the mimic of the scrambler rifle but not as good. if all assault rifle variants were the same as all the other racial rifles then why would anyone skill into anything but assault rifle skill tree? Giving the tac ar a clip size increase will make it a better counter measure to R.R. players I doubt that R.R ushered will stop using R.R. because they have more range. Everything is suppose to have a counter.
Jack 3enimble Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 283	Posted - 2014.09.03 20:35:00 - [8] - Quote David Mustane wrote: QQ over a nerfed RR? really? I'm sorry you stand still and my RR murders you. The OP weapon is not the RR, but the ScR. The RR was nerfed, it isn't as great as you think, I have it lvl 5, pro 3, and heavies still out last a clip. The ScR is OP, especially when you cheaters must use a modded controller. RR = fine ScR = OP LOL. last couple times i was in a match with you the leaderboard wasnt reflecting your murdering. More like you getting murdered. On Topic: I do think the TAC AR should get a clipsize increase but after Delta. Delta will buff the plasma rifles, so lets just wait how that pans out.
Mathew LaBorde The Generals 65	Posted - 2014.09.03 20:40:00 - [9] - Quote Ld Collins wrote: Serious question though why is it that all long range weapons have small clip sizes but the Rail Rifle who happens to have the longest range have a clip size of 42 while the Tac Ar has 18? Even in close quarters the R.R. is good its not great but its far better then a tac ar in close range. Can we give the tac ar a clip size of 36 just like the breach assualt rifle? Big clip for automatic gun.
Death Shadow117 New Age Empire. General Tso's Alliance 346	Posted - 2014.09.03 20:45:00 - [10] - Quote David Mustane wrote: QQ over a nerfed RR? really? I'm sorry you stand still and my RR murders you. The OP weapon is not the RR, but the ScR. The RR was nerfed, it isn't as great as you think, I have it lvl 5, pro 3, and heavies still out last a clip. The ScR is OP, especially when you cheaters must use a modded controller. RR = fine ScR = OP yet the rr is what most everyone gets killed by. I hardly ever get killed by scr users even modded controler ones but i get shredded by the rr. Why?

Jack 3enimble Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 283	Posted - 2014.09.03 20:54:00 - [11] - Quote Death Shadow117 wrote: David Mustane wrote: QQ over a nerfed RR? really? I'm sorry you stand still and my RR murders you. The OP weapon is not the RR, but the ScR. The RR was nerfed, it isn't as great as you think, I have it lvl 5, pro 3, and heavies still out last a clip. The ScR is OP, especially when you cheaters must use a modded controller. RR = fine ScR = OP yet the rr is what most everyone gets killed by. I hardly ever get killed by scr users even modded controler ones but i get shredded by the rr. I got shredded by CR's and viziams both in pubs and PC
David Mustane D3M3NT3D M1NDZ 68	Posted - 2014.09.04 00:46:00 - [12] - Quote RR seems to be the ONLY weapon that does not fire blanks. SO blame CCP for the POS of a game. No Assault rifle should get a bigger clip, **** you all. QQ. DO NOT HELP THE CHEATERS CHEAT EVEN HARDER BY GIVING THEM WHAT THEY ASK FOR.
Krixus Flux Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 471	Posted - 2014.09.04 00:47:00 - [13] - Quote CUSE TOWN333 wrote: Ld Collins wrote: Serious question though why is it that all long range weapons have small clip sizes but the Rail Rifle who happens to have the longest range have a clip size of 42 while the Tac Ar has 18? Even in close quarters the R.R. is good its not great but its far better then a tac ar in close range. Can we give the tac ar a clip size of 36 just like the breach assualt rifle? because we need a gun for people to cry about every day. today happens to be the rail rifle and its massively OP clip size and sub par DPS. Dude, every day its about the rail rifle. I guess it just took the place of the GEK. Saying what's on people's minds
Krixus Flux Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 471	Posted - 2014.09.04 00:48:00 - [14] - Quote Death Shadow117 wrote: David Mustane wrote: QQ over a nerfed RR? really? I'm sorry you stand still and my RR murders you. The OP weapon is not the RR, but the ScR. The RR was nerfed, it isn't as great as you think, I have it lvl 5, pro 3, and heavies still out last a clip. The ScR is OP, especially when you cheaters must use a modded controller. RR = fine ScR = OP yet the rr is what most everyone gets killed by. I hardly ever get killed by scr users even modded controler ones but i get shredded by the rr. You are a liar that never plays this game bro. Saying what's on people's minds
Ld Collins Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 166	Posted - 2014.09.04 00:54:00 - [15] - Quote David Mustane wrote: RR seems to be the ONLY weapon that does not fire blanks. SO blame CCP for the POS of a game. No Assault rifle should get a bigger clip, **** you all. QQ. DO NOT HELP THE CHEATERS CHEAT EVEN HARDER BY GIVING THEM WHAT THEY ASK FOR. All rifles in the game have a larger clip size than 18 except the tac ar its ridiculous.
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 579	Posted - 2014.09.04 01:01:00 - [16] - Quote Ld Collins wrote: Serious question though why is it that all long range weapons have small clip sizes but the Rail Rifle who happens to have the longest range have a clip size of 42 while the Tac Ar has 18? Even in close quarters the R.R. is good its not great but its far better then a tac ar in close range. Can we give the tac ar a clip size of 36 just like the breach assualt rifle? ScR has a magazine of 45 and the same optimal range, just sayin'... The magazine size isn't the problem with the RR, it's the hipfire dispersion, if you fix that then it will fill its niche. If the TAR gets buffed by getting a larger magazine then it will become the new FOTM and be spammed by turbo controllers. I can already wreck a brick tanked heavy with the 18 shots that do around 70 damage a hit. Let alone the fact that the breach will become useless if it has the same sized magazine, it's already fairly useless as it does less dps than the AR, its only real use at the moment is it is damage efficient for non nano logistics while having better hipfire than the TAR. If you want a long range AR with decent magazine size use the burst. It's pretty good at both range and CQC if you time the trigger pulls right and don't jam it. Same rule that applies to the standard CR. The TAR is the precision rifle variant of the plasma rifle. I don't understand why players QQ so much over AR weapons when they have the most variety and therefor the most options if you only skill into one rifle. Inb4 you RR noob!! I use literally all rifles.
Ld Collins Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 166	Posted - 2014.09.04 01:24:00 - [17] - Quote TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Ld Collins wrote: Serious question though why is it that all long range weapons have small clip sizes but the Rail Rifle who happens to have the longest range have a clip size of 42 while the Tac Ar has 18? Even in close quarteis iss the R.R. is good its not great but its far better then a tac ar in close range. Can we give the tac ar a clip size of 36 just like the breach assualt rifle? ScR has a magazine of 45 and the same optimal range, just sayin'... The magazine size isn't the problem with the RR, it's the hipfire dispersion, if you fix that then it will fill its niche. If the TAR gets buffed by getting a larger magazine then it will become the new FOTM and be spammed by turbo controllers. I can already wreck a brick tanked heavy with the 18 shots that do around 70 damage a hit. Let alone the fact that the breach will become useless if it has the same sized magazine, it's already fairly useless as it does less dps than the AR, its only real use at the moment is it is damage efficient for non nano logistics while having better hipfire than the TAR. If you want a long range AR with decent magazine size use the burst. It's pretty good at both range and CQC if you time the trigger pulls right and don't jam it. Same rule that applies to the standard CR. The TAR is the precision rifle variant of the plasma rifle. I don't understand why players QQ so much over AR weapons when they have the most variety and therefor the most options if you only skill into one rifle. Inb4 you RR noob!! I use literally all rifles. Im just not gonna pay any attention to what you said like you did me and repeat all long range weapons in the game have small clips. Forge guns swarm launchers plasma cannons sniper rifles mass drivers..... rail rifle 42. The problem with the tac ar is its clip size is only 18 after you shoot 10 rounds and most likely not kill the intended target you need to reload. Which basically makes the tac ar a rifle that can only be used to contain light to medium suits in an area. Not necessarily kill them its a weapon that you primarily have to hang back with and pop shots at people until you become kingbof kill assists. On the other hand you can take a R.R. and clean up shop mostly because of its armor damage profile. The tac ar is ok at mid range close range its awful and long range its a kill assist factory. Don't come and complain about turbo controllers because people suppose dont mind using them on other rifles.
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 580	Posted - 2014.09.04 03:24:00 - [18] - Quote Ld Collins wrote: TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Ld Collins wrote: Serious question though why is it that all long range weapons have small clip sizes but the Rail Rifle who happens to have the longest range have a clip size of 42 while the Tac Ar has 18? Even in close quarteis iss the R.R. is good its not great but its far better then a tac ar in close range. Can we give the tac ar a clip size of 36 just like the breach assualt rifle? ScR has a magazine of 45 and the same optimal range, just sayin'... The magazine size isn't the problem with the RR, it's the hipfire dispersion, if you fix that then it will fill its niche. If the TAR gets buffed by getting a larger magazine then it will become the new FOTM and be spammed by turbo controllers. I can already wreck a brick tanked heavy with the 18 shots that do around 70 damage a hit. Let alone the fact that the breach will become useless if it has the same sized magazine, it's already fairly useless as it does less dps than the AR, its only real use at the moment is it is damage efficient for non nano logistics while having better hipfire than the TAR. If you want a long range AR with decent magazine size use the burst. It's pretty good at both range and CQC if you time the trigger pulls right and don't jam it. Same rule that applies to the standard CR. The TAR is the precision rifle variant of the plasma rifle. I don't understand why players QQ so much over AR weapons when they have the most variety and therefor the most options if you only skill into one rifle. Inb4 you RR noob!! I use literally all rifles. Im just not gonna pay any attention to what you said like you did me and repeat all long range weapons in the game have small clips. Forge guns swarm launchers plasma cannons sniper rifles mass drivers..... rail rifle 42. The problem with the tac ar is its clip size is only 18 after you shoot 10 rounds and most likely not kill the intended target you need to reload. Which basically makes the tac ar a rifle that can only be used to contain light to medium suits in an area. Not necessarily kill them its a weapon that you primarily have to hang back with and pop shots at people until you become kingbof kill assists. On the other hand you can take a R.R. and clean up shop mostly because of its armor damage profile. The tac ar is ok at mid range close range its awful and long range its a kill assist factory. Don't come and complain about turbo controllers because people dont mind using them on other rifles. Show of hands here who has been killed by a scout with a Tac Ar....Then ask yourself how many times you've been killed by a scoutwith a R.R. its just hilarious. How does one fire 10 rounds and then have to reload when the magazine is 18? I already said why the RR needs to be tweaked and it's not the magazine size it's the dispersion pattern. The Scouts use RR over a TAR because Scouts DO NOT rely on precision aiming, they bunny hop and sprint about while hip firing. The hip fire on the RR is too tight. I'm going to assume you have never used the RR though if you are proposing a smaller magazine to an automatic weapon with a spool up time. All those weapons you just listed, Forge guns, swarm launchers, PLC's etc. even the TAR are not automatic weapons. The only automatic weapons that have smaller magazines than the RR is the Breach AR. If anything the breach AR should have a larger magazine, but that isn't what you are arguing for. Hell, you aren't even upset logically with the fact that the ScR has a magazine of 45 and is a precision rifle exactly like the TAR. Instead you take an automatic weapon you seem to despise, the RR, and then argue it should behave like a precision rifle the TAR. Which sure that sounds great to me, I'll be on board for your suggestion if the RR gets the same damage as the TAR and ScR IE. 70 damage a shot and it has the spool up time removed, in favor of single shot action. Until then it has the same damage as the Breach AR with superior stats, which should be working as intended. The PR can do many other things pretty well it isn't supposed to fulfill every role IE. burst > CR, breach > RR, TAR > ScR, it is only supposed to perform better as the AR > ACR/AScR/RR and when considering magazine size, ROF, and damage per shot it out dps's the other Assault variants across an even spread of shields and armor. Of course, brick tanking armor is the easiest way to play the game as it relies on high e/hp with minimal mobility. And since it is the easiest thing to function as, you will see the most of it. I assure you however, the AR is the way to go when fighting dual tanks in CQC, and it's especially lethal to Caldari/Minmitar who tend not to have absurd levels of armor e/hp. Don't blame the AR, blame its damage profile against armor. You don't hear me bitching when a flux grenade wipes all of my shield based suits shields about OP even on my Caldari Heavy Sentinel. You idiots act like you have it bad and you have no idea. Here's a tip for any of you would be AR users, don't ******* brick tank with a CQC rifle. You wouldn't brick tank with a shotgun, now would you? And for the love of god, do not go toe to toe way out of your optimal against Rail Rifles and ScRs unless you expect to lose. Stop trying to argue that the AR should be the best rifle at everything.
Ld Collins Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 166	Posted - 2014.09.05 14:48:00 - [19] - Quote You have to reload after 10 shots because while shooting at someone 10 times they obviously realize they were being shot at so if10 rounds didnt kill them why would 8. So you need to reload how is that hard to understand. On paper 10 shots on a target that's not moving sure but people move people travel in groups you need more rounds. Can we please get some data from a dev on how many kills are made with the Tac Ar compared to other rifles. Where are they Tac Ar is op threads....can we get a compilation of YouTube videos with kill feeds to see how many have Tac Ar kills. The plasma cannon is probably about even on its rarity. Seriously where is the Tac Ar outcry of being Op stop with the bullcrap.
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1269	Posted - 2014.09.05 14:55:00 - [20] - Quote Ld Collins wrote: TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Ld Collins wrote: Serious question though why is it that all long range weapons have small clip sizes but the Rail Rifle who happens to have the longest range have a clip size of 42 while the Tac Ar has 18? Even in close quarteis iss the R.R. is good its not great but its far better then a tac ar in close range. Can we give the tac ar a clip size of 36 just like the breach assualt rifle? ScR has a magazine of 45 and the same optimal range, just sayin'... The magazine size isn't the problem with the RR, it's the hipfire dispersion, if you fix that then it will fill its niche. If the TAR gets buffed by getting a larger magazine then it will become the new FOTM and be spammed by turbo controllers. I can already wreck a brick tanked heavy with the 18 shots that do around 70 damage a hit. Let alone the fact that the breach will become useless if it has the same sized magazine, it's already fairly useless as it does less dps than the AR, its only real use at the moment is it is damage efficient for non nano logistics while having better hipfire than the TAR. If you want a long range AR with decent magazine size use the burst. It's pretty good at both range and CQC if you time the trigger pulls right and don't jam it. Same rule that applies to the standard CR. The TAR is the precision rifle variant of the plasma rifle. I don't understand why players QQ so much over AR weapons when they have the most variety and therefor the most options if you only skill into one rifle. Inb4 you RR noob!! I use literally all rifles. Im just not gonna pay any attention to what you said like you did me and repeat all long range weapons in the game have small clips. Forge guns swarm launchers plasma cannons sniper rifles mass drivers..... rail rifle 42. The problem with the tac ar is its clip size is only 18 after you shoot 10 rounds and most likely not kill the intended target you need to reload. Which basically makes the tac ar a rifle that can only be used to contain light to medium suits in an area. Not necessarily kill them its a weapon that you primarily have to hang back with and pop shots at people until you become kingbof kill assists. On the other hand you can take a R.R. and clean up shop mostly because of its armor damage profile. The tac ar is ok at mid range close range its awful and long range its a kill assist factory. Don't come and complain about turbo controllers because people dont mind using them on other rifles. Show of hands here who has been killed by a scout with a Tac Ar....Then ask yourself how many times you've been killed by a scoutwith a R.R. its just hilarious. I would take a tac ar on a scout over a rr any day. Rails have too long of an engagement time and they're not terribly ammo efficient. Scr and tac ar for scout any day, though if they had a tac rr (bolt rifle) I'd be very happy. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.

Ld Collins Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 167	Posted - 2014.09.05 14:58:00 - [21] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Ld Collins wrote: TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Ld Collins wrote: Serious question though why is it that all long range weapons have small clip sizes but the Rail Rifle who happens to have the longest range have a clip size of 42 while the Tac Ar has 18? Even in close quarteis iss the R.R. is good its not great but its far better then a tac ar in close range. Can we give the tac ar a clip size of 36 just like the breach assualt rifle? ScR has a magazine of 45 and the same optimal range, just sayin'... The magazine size isn't the problem with the RR, it's the hipfire dispersion, if you fix that then it will fill its niche. If the TAR gets buffed by getting a larger magazine then it will become the new FOTM and be spammed by turbo controllers. I can already wreck a brick tanked heavy with the 18 shots that do around 70 damage a hit. Let alone the fact that the breach will become useless if it has the same sized magazine, it's already fairly useless as it does less dps than the AR, its only real use at the moment is it is damage efficient for non nano logistics while having better hipfire than the TAR. If you want a long range AR with decent magazine size use the burst. It's pretty good at both range and CQC if you time the trigger pulls right and don't jam it. Same rule that applies to the standard CR. The TAR is the precision rifle variant of the plasma rifle. I don't understand why players QQ so much over AR weapons when they have the most variety and therefor the most options if you only skill into one rifle. Inb4 you RR noob!! I use literally all rifles. Im just not gonna pay any attention to what you said like you did me and repeat all long range weapons in the game have small clips. Forge guns swarm launchers plasma cannons sniper rifles mass drivers..... rail rifle 42. The problem with the tac ar is its clip size is only 18 after you shoot 10 rounds and most likely not kill the intended target you need to reload. Which basically makes the tac ar a rifle that can only be used to contain light to medium suits in an area. Not necessarily kill them its a weapon that you primarily have to hang back with and pop shots at people until you become kingbof kill assists. On the other hand you can take a R.R. and clean up shop mostly because of its armor damage profile. The tac ar is ok at mid range close range its awful and long range its a kill assist factory. Don't come and complain about turbo controllers because people dont mind using them on other rifles. Show of hands here who has been killed by a scout with a Tac Ar....Then ask yourself how many times you've been killed by a scoutwith a R.R. its just hilarious. I would take a tac ar on a scout over a rr any day. Rails have too long of an engagement time and they're not terribly ammo efficient. Scr and tac ar for scout any day, though if they had a tac rr (bolt rifle) I'd be very happy. The lies we tell stop trolling
Auris Lionesse Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 972	Posted - 2014.09.05 15:08:00 - [22] - Quote the idea was to have variants that mimic the other racial playstyles but dont out perform them the assault is the stand gal rifle assault is a variant of the others. there should be a 3 round burst verion of the 3 rifles. a breach variant ti mimic the rail rifle and a tactical like the scrambler. along with variants that have better stats for more money and higher skills. this should have been the same for all suits, and equipment. there should be 5 scanners for 4 that corelate to each suit. and 1 that is less effective but picks up all suits. 4 types of resistance mods and that 5th one that protects against all to a lesser extent. thats why there were supposed to be 4 tanks, 4 drop ships. etc etc. shanghai messed it up but i agree 18 isnt high enough for the tac ar. it should be higher your correct. 32-36 seems good. Don't vote for iron wolf saber. Vote for someone who will help the community i.e. anyone else.
Jack 3enimble Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 326	Posted - 2014.09.05 15:11:00 - [23] - Quote Tac Ar should get a clip of maybe 25, it needs a larger clip that's for sure. On all the RR QQ being a CQC beast that will be over soon, when AR's are buffed in Delta. Actually the RR is terrible CQC because of the slow rate of fire, you'll only pull of a CQC kill when you surprise your enemy. Although subjective, I've tested the SB-39 and SL-4 for day of CQC. I left all the maps that were not CQC, the second day I did the same with the GEK. I did better with the GEK than with both the RR's. Now people will obviously respond with I'm a noob, no gun game blabla. Now look at PC (I play this a lot lately) all the CQC parts are dominated by CR's B-HMG's, SG's and Viziam ScR's. Never in the last 10 PC battles have I seen a RR. So I ask, if it so good CQC why is it not being used in PC?
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1467	Posted - 2014.09.05 15:35:00 - [24] - Quote Jack 3enimble wrote: So I ask, if it so good CQC why is it not being used in PC? Because the RR pales in comparison to the CR (and ScR and HMG and Shotgun and even Nova Knives), and the best players in the game know this.
Jack 3enimble Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 326	Posted - 2014.09.05 16:44:00 - [25] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Jack 3enimble wrote: So I ask, if it so good CQC why is it not being used in PC? Because the RR pales in comparison to the CR (and ScR and HMG and Shotgun and even Nova Knives) at all but near the max range of the RR, and the people who play in PCs know this....and it only takes a game or two of getting shredded from the other weapons to figure it out. Heck, even the AR is better in CQC than the RR, and that's before the upcoming buff/nerf. The only typical usage of the RR in PC is when you can camp a high point and nobody can get close to you....like on the mushroom or on one of the overwatch bridges. And it is the lack of CQC prowess that leads to this. Within its optimal range (and outside the range of the other, shorter range weapon) is the only place that I've seen the RR shine in PC. All of the above said, I'm about the only player I know that uses the RR (actually the aRR) on the ground in PCs...and I typically run in our city squad...and I have a crappy KDR in PCs to prove it...Leadfoot p.s. I agree with LD that the TAC AR clip size is too small. If I were in charge, I'd change it to 24 (+33%) then evaluate it's performance, and I'd also reduce the hipfire dispersion of the regular ARs to make them even better in CQC when compared to the dominant CR. I know the answer to the question I've asked Wanted to hear from the people who seem to think it's really good at CQC


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