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NAV HIV
The Generals
2047
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Posted - 2014.09.02 13:03:00 -
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After everyone cried about how OP the cal scout is, CCP changed the role of the Suit without giving any compensation to the People who spent 2mil + SP to spec into the cal Scout... I don't know about anyone else, but i specced into the Cal Scout after reading the Description on Day 1.... I wanted to Hunt Fully Dampened Gal Scouts and help my squad by scanning the area for them... The only change it needed was to "Deactivate" the squad vision... it would reduce the amount of "heavies chasing scouts" :)
Now i have become a gal scout with more dampeners and a SG... I don't carry nanites anymore... I carry Remotes... I'm forced to go double dampened and stacked Shields... I have my Caldari Assault for that purpose... I can fit more Ewar gear on my caldari Assault, than i can on the Cal Scout...
Reason: Cal Assault has 3 lows, Cal Scout has only 2 at Proto Level... Except for Precision Enhancer (Which was the Caldari Bonus) every other Ewar Module uses Low slot... Now compare it to gal, amar scouts, they have plenty of Low slots to play the Ewar game...They can fit Proper Ewar modules which supports their bonuses and still be dampened and have HP...
Old Cal Bonus + High slots for PE = was relevant... New Cal Bonus + Low slot for RA = Dead Scout....
Would be great if you consider this... Make this suit relevant and not waste my SP.... Thank you...
"Please don't always make changes listening to bunch of cry babies" - That's what drove most of the good players away... |
Kallas Hallytyr
Skullbreakers
732
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Posted - 2014.09.02 13:20:00 -
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With Range Amplification 5 and CalScout 5, your passive scan radius is 45m. That is roughly the optimal range of a Plasma Rifle, or comfortably within optimal of the other rifles. With a single Complex Range Amp, you get a 65.25m radius and can still fit a Damp, bringing your profile down to 20.08db: enough to evade all but the lowest of scans.
What this means is that you can scan down enormous areas and be hard to detect, but you have to make a choice: you can fill some of your highs to become the third best Scout hunter but be vulnerable due to low EHP; you can dampen to avoid all scans, just like all other Scouts but it doesn't cut into your primary tank and you can still have a 45m scan radius; or you can do whatever - the change to the CalScout was needed to stop them being the best at almost everything (except dampening, which only the Gallente could do at the time) and now they still have the capacity to do what you want but it is not just handed to you on a silver platter.
Edit: In other words, the CalScout is just fine, like all the others now that Charlie jiggered the bonuses.
Alt of Halla Murr.
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Juedfin90
BLACK-GUARD E.B.O.L.A.
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Posted - 2014.09.02 13:22:00 -
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So the result of the whole eWAR stuff was to GIVE EVERY SCOUT THE POSSABILITY TO STAY UNSCANNED as much as needed ( low slot ) and to PLAY besides of that the SPECIAL ROLE.
Amarr: 2 Prec.enhancer in high, lows dump and ARMOR for fighting, like the description says ---- looks guite good
GAL: 2 prec. in high, lows dump and rep or kinetic or hack ----- looks fine
Min: shield/prec in high, lows 2 or 3 dumpeners to stay unscanned (look at the stats ) and what stays for Hacking and speed? Nothing ---- unlogicly !!
Cal: prec. in high, 2 dump in lows to stay unscanned, and where are the slots for range amplifier? --- unlogicly too !!!
Result:
1) put Hack modules and Range emplifier to high slot so ALL Scouts can play their role
" If you aren´t strong, be smart " citation from Sun Zu´s Book Tactics of War
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NAV HIV
The Generals
2048
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Posted - 2014.09.02 15:30:00 -
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Kallas Hallytyr wrote:With Range Amplification 5 and CalScout 5, your passive scan radius is 45m. That is roughly the optimal range of a Plasma Rifle, or comfortably within optimal of the other rifles. With a single Complex Range Amp, you get a 65.25m radius and can still fit a Damp, bringing your profile down to 20.08db: enough to evade all but the lowest of scans.
What this means is that you can scan down enormous areas and be hard to detect, but you have to make a choice: you can fill some of your highs to become the third best Scout hunter but be vulnerable due to low EHP; you can dampen to avoid all scans, just like all other Scouts but it doesn't cut into your primary tank and you can still have a 45m scan radius; or you can do whatever - the change to the CalScout was needed to stop them being the best at almost everything (except dampening, which only the Gallente could do at the time) and now they still have the capacity to do what you want but it is not just handed to you on a silver platter.
Edit: In other words, the CalScout is just fine, like all the others now that Charlie jiggered the bonuses.
You see i put my SP in to Scan... Not to dampen... Squad vision was unnecessary... I can't fit a Range amp and hope to fight... How many ARs do you fight ?! I fight a lot of Scout with ScR, CR and RR... 45m isn't exactly ideal specially if they have 2 dampeners on... |
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