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ACT1ON BASTARD
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
108
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Posted - 2014.09.02 07:41:00 -
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Can we expect any anytime soon? Tanks and ads`s have been really lacking lately. I got a 20 mil vehicle alt, everytime i get on it ill lose a few mil, its really not sustainable atm. |
Pvt Numnutz
Prophets of the Velocirapture
1850
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Posted - 2014.09.02 07:46:00 -
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Piloting dropships has never been sustainable.
Master Skyshark rider
Kaalaka dakka tamer
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SGT NOVA STAR
1.U.P
273
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Posted - 2014.09.02 07:47:00 -
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check out the ideas section and read the hotfix delta discussion sticky. there looking at buffing the EHP of shield tanks and ads since there might be a swarm buff.
VAYU! I CHOOSE YOU!
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ACT1ON BASTARD
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
108
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Posted - 2014.09.02 07:49:00 -
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Pvt Numnutz wrote:Piloting dropships has never been sustainable. It was sustainable for me before charlie the new installations are my major downfall, can never kill the damn things and swarms seem stronger but not sure. |
SGT NOVA STAR
1.U.P
273
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Posted - 2014.09.02 07:54:00 -
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Pvt Numnutz wrote:Piloting dropships has never been sustainable. your seeing people do it wrong. 660 mill isk and growing everyday and I'm ads and tank. it's all about the fitting people!
VAYU! I CHOOSE YOU!
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ACT1ON BASTARD
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
108
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Posted - 2014.09.02 07:59:00 -
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SGT NOVA STAR wrote:Pvt Numnutz wrote:Piloting dropships has never been sustainable. your seeing people do it wrong. 660 mill isk and growing everyday and I'm ads and tank. it's all about the fitting people! Give me a fit then. |
taxi bastard
Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo
238
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Posted - 2014.09.02 08:47:00 -
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balance occurs and you want buff ><
a well fit gunlogi take 9 proto swarms with minimando 5 swarm profficency 4 and 2 complex damage mods to kill - thats 3 reloads assuming the tank does not use cover or any swarms hit terrine then its more.
why would this need buffing? |
Shooter Somewhere
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
65
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Posted - 2014.09.02 08:53:00 -
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taxi bastard wrote:balance occurs and you want buff ><
a well fit gunlogi take 9 proto swarms with minimando 5 swarm profficency 4 and 2 complex damage mods to kill - thats 3 reloads assuming the tank does not use cover or any swarms hit terrine then its more.
why would this need buffing?
Start tanking and tell us straight to or face their is face quote on quote faxggot face " >< "
I dare you for once just to buy a bunch of somas and milta mod them and go look for some combat and see what happens to you.
IF you even have that much isk.
HEADSHOT! HEADSHOT!! HEADSHOT!!! HEADSHOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=earCbU6vgAo
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taxi bastard
Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo
239
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Posted - 2014.09.02 11:05:00 -
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Shooter Somewhere wrote:taxi bastard wrote:balance occurs and you want buff ><
a well fit gunlogi take 9 proto swarms with minimando 5 swarm profficency 4 and 2 complex damage mods to kill - thats 3 reloads assuming the tank does not use cover or any swarms hit terrine then its more.
why would this need buffing? Start tanking and tell us straight to or face their is face quote on quote faxggot face " >< " I dare you for once just to buy a bunch of somas and milta mod them and go look for some combat and see what happens to you. IF you even have that much isk. EDIT: Im sorry sir I was to dumbfounded by your first comment about their being balance. IN WHAT GAME DOES A GUNNLOGI TAKE 9 PROTO SWARMS WITH 5 MINDO WITH PROF 4 ???? (please note while being an effective tank towards combating not only other tanks but infantry as well the the same thing that is killing it) Id like to go play that game please. Can you tell me that the name of that game is please I wanna go play!!!! cuz my mindo with out prof can negate 17% of the natural -20+20 of explosives. I have minmando on 5 basic wyk swarms NO PROF BTW and 1 complex damage amp on this suit and once I brake through somthings shields I do 1647.36 per volley if all missiles hit. Like I have been saying with this kind of AV there is no need or use for tanks. (btw when im am threatened by some d-bag I pull out a RS-90 combat rifle with prof 2 not counting the suite bonus and shred his ass. Balance my ass.
my guess hardeners and shield booster, advanced turret PG upgrade and a small plate .
sheilds
2650 x 1.4 = 3710 aka 1 hardener 3710 x 1.4 = 5194 aka 2 hardeners
boost 1950 x's 1.4 aka 1 hardener = 2730 x 1.4 aka 2 hardeners = 3822
total sheilds to break = 9016
total armour to break 1885
swarms vs shields (1248 +23% comando 5 + 2 damage mods) x's .8 explosive damage = 1228
9016/1228 = 7.3 swarm launches to break shields
swarms vs armour = 1248 + 35% comando 5 + 2 damage mods + proficiency 4) x's 1.2 explosive =2021
1885/2021 = .93 swarms to break
total full launches needed 8.2 so 9 launches.
but yes i know many gunlogi's are made for PC AT in pubs and end up having 2 damage amps, 1 scanner and armour in the lows giving them similar EHP to an unfitted soma and requiring about 4-5 launches to kill. if you build a glass cannon can you complain when someone breaks it?
you seem to have a thing about fagots and mens asses, congratulations in taking your first steps on coming out on these forums. i hope your parents are better than his https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1df_i26wh-w
GL m8
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
728
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Posted - 2014.09.02 11:28:00 -
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SGT NOVA STAR wrote:Pvt Numnutz wrote:Piloting dropships has never been sustainable. your seeing people do it wrong. 660 mill isk and growing everyday and I'm ads and tank. it's all about the fitting people! not just fitting but experience and knowing when to GTFO of a hot zone.. you Pro pilots make like hard for me as i want to stay logi but i need to switch to AV to drive you guys away :P
[[LogiBro in Training]]
Level 1 Forum Pariah
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Tardthe GrumpyCat
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2014.09.02 14:20:00 -
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ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:Can we expect any anytime soon? Tanks and ads`s have been really lacking lately. I got a 20 mil vehicle alt, everytime i get on it ill lose a few mil, its really not sustainable atm. Being a pilot at all has never been sustainable. |
Bahirae Serugiusu
Vendetta Reactionary Force
4
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Posted - 2014.09.02 15:09:00 -
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As I was told before if you can't afford to lose it don't use it. And as pilots loved saying to infantry when we were saying you are op learn to play. |
Repe Susi
Rautaleijona
1391
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Posted - 2014.09.02 15:42:00 -
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Shooter Somewhere wrote:taxi bastard wrote:balance occurs and you want buff ><
a well fit gunlogi take 9 proto swarms with minimando 5 swarm profficency 4 and 2 complex damage mods to kill - thats 3 reloads assuming the tank does not use cover or any swarms hit terrine then its more.
why would this need buffing? Start tanking and tell us straight to or face their is face quote on quote faxggot face " >< " I dare you for once just to buy a bunch of somas and milta mod them and go look for some combat and see what happens to you. IF you even have that much isk. EDIT: Im sorry sir I was to dumbfounded by your first comment about their being balance. IN WHAT GAME DOES A GUNNLOGI TAKE 9 PROTO SWARMS WITH 5 MINDO WITH PROF 4 ???? (please note while being an effective tank towards combating not only other tanks but infantry as well the the same thing that is killing it) Id like to go play that game please. Can you tell me that the name of that game is please I wanna go play!!!! cuz my mindo with out prof can negate 17% of the natural -20+20 of explosives. I have minmando on 5 basic wyk swarms NO PROF BTW and 1 complex damage amp on this suit and once I brake through somthings shields I do 1647.36 per volley if all missiles hit. Like I have been saying with this kind of AV there is no need or use for tanks. (btw when im am threatened by some d-bag I pull out a RS-90 combat rifle with prof 2 not counting the suite bonus and shred his ass. +ä+ñ+ñ+ñ+ñ+ñ Balance my ass.
Quoting just because.
Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. ~ Isaac Asimov
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Abber Dietmart
Vendetta Reactionary Force
42
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Posted - 2014.09.02 17:36:00 -
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Dear ALL PILOTS! STOP COMPLAINING FOR CRYING OUT LOUD! OH NO AV CAN KILL US GUESS WHAT THATS THEIR JOB! AND LAST I CHECKED AV PLAYERS ARE MORE OR LESS DEFENSELESS! You know how many times my puny little assault dropsuit was killed by a swarm launcher? Zero. You know how many times I've killed the three Madrugers running rampant across my team and more or less soloing the match? Thats pretty much every Ambush OMS match. But somehow that balanced. But if you die everything is broken and you need buffs. |
ACT1ON BASTARD
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
110
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Posted - 2014.09.02 20:01:00 -
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Abber Dietmart wrote:Dear ALL PILOTS! STOP COMPLAINING FOR CRYING OUT LOUD! OH NO AV CAN KILL US GUESS WHAT THATS THEIR JOB! AND LAST I CHECKED AV PLAYERS ARE MORE OR LESS DEFENSELESS! You know how many times my puny little assault dropsuit was killed by a swarm launcher? Zero. You know how many times I've killed the three Madrugers running rampant across my team and more or less soloing the match? Thats pretty much every Ambush OMS match. But somehow that balanced. But if you die everything is broken and you need buffs. What if all your suits were nerfed down to militia grade, your guns nerfed along with that, nerf to just about every module, your speed, nerf to switching dropsuits at a supply, then all your counters being buffed at the same time. Im not 1 to usually qq but this is ridiculous. Oh yeah and more nerfs to come and more buffs to our counters. |
Death Shadow117
New Age Empire. General Tso's Alliance
340
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Posted - 2014.09.02 20:05:00 -
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Afterburners need a recharge time buff (longer recharge)
Why?
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Death Shadow117
New Age Empire. General Tso's Alliance
340
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Posted - 2014.09.02 20:07:00 -
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Abber Dietmart wrote:Dear ALL PILOTS! STOP COMPLAINING FOR CRYING OUT LOUD! OH NO AV CAN KILL US GUESS WHAT THATS THEIR JOB! AND LAST I CHECKED AV PLAYERS ARE MORE OR LESS DEFENSELESS! You know how many times my puny little assault dropsuit was killed by a swarm launcher? Zero. You know how many times I've killed the three Madrugers running rampant across my team and more or less soloing the match? Thats pretty much every Ambush OMS match. But somehow that balanced. But if you die everything is broken and you need buffs. You use swarms ha scrub get a forge or a particle cannon and then come back.
Why?
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1974
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Posted - 2014.09.02 20:14:00 -
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Pvt Numnutz wrote:Piloting dropships has never been sustainable. My 170m says otherwise.
But to the OP, the only vehicle buffs I want to see are to STD DSs and LAVs, especially shield variants. |
Buwaro Draemon
WarRavens Capital Punishment.
334
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Posted - 2014.09.02 20:14:00 -
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Vehicles are pretty balanced right now. Ads's are fine the way they are. (I agree hat the Python needs a collision check)
The only OP thing vehicles have now is that an Ads can zip out of danger do to Afterburners.
If you are a scout and you only use EWAR then you have my salutes o7
END THE TYRANNY OF BRINK TANKED SCOUTS
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ACT1ON BASTARD
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
110
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Posted - 2014.09.02 20:31:00 -
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Buwaro Draemon wrote:Vehicles are pretty balanced right now. Ads's are fine the way they are. (I agree hat the Python needs a collision check)
The only OP thing vehicles have now is that an Ads can zip out of danger do to Afterburners. Yeah thats what the ads was built for its called hit and run. |
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
13175
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Posted - 2014.09.02 21:10:00 -
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I miss when even MLT tanking was unsustainable.
Good times... in my "Little Soma that Could"
"We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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ACT1ON BASTARD
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
111
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Posted - 2014.09.03 00:05:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:I miss when even MLT tanking was unsustainable.
Good times... in my "Little Soma that Could" I was doing fine before charlie hit but now vehicles just feel sht. |
Buwaro Draemon
WarRavens Capital Punishment.
338
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Posted - 2014.09.03 01:29:00 -
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ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:Buwaro Draemon wrote:Vehicles are pretty balanced right now. Ads's are fine the way they are. (I agree hat the Python needs a collision check)
The only OP thing vehicles have now is that an Ads can zip out of danger do to Afterburners. Yeah thats what the ads was built for its called hit and run. Except that most Ads just hover in one area spamming the infantry with proto missiles and then zip out of there the moment threat is presented to them.
They recharge shields and repair their armor and repeat.
If you are a scout and you only use EWAR then you have my salutes o7
END THE TYRANNY OF BRINK TANKED SCOUTS
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ACT1ON BASTARD
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
112
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Posted - 2014.09.03 02:04:00 -
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Buwaro Draemon wrote:ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:Buwaro Draemon wrote:Vehicles are pretty balanced right now. Ads's are fine the way they are. (I agree hat the Python needs a collision check)
The only OP thing vehicles have now is that an Ads can zip out of danger do to Afterburners. Yeah thats what the ads was built for its called hit and run. Except that most Ads just hover in one area spamming the infantry with proto missiles and then zip out of there the moment threat is presented to them. They recharge shields and repair their armor and repeat. Yes hit and run thats why you get an av friend and gank him no problem. |
ACT1ON BASTARD
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
112
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Posted - 2014.09.03 20:24:00 -
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Bump
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HOWDIDHEKILLME
Dying to Reload
424
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Posted - 2014.09.04 07:54:00 -
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Proto swarms prof 5 with three damage mods vs. shield tank with two extenders and a hardener.
It just stares at me (and giggles I swear to god) for the first 6 hits. Pummeled it with packed av grenades drives away... Comes back 30 sec later fires it's hardener and let's me do it again. I think he was mocking me.
Buff what? Godzilla?
Lonewolf till I die
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HOWDIDHEKILLME
Dying to Reload
424
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Posted - 2014.09.04 07:57:00 -
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Btw that fit costs 148k takes one shot to kill 2-3 if it's a weak blaster.
Lonewolf till I die
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