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Rhydra L Wong
Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.08.31 17:26:00 -
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http://youtu.be/i8h1GhnWjW8?t=1m30s |
LudiKure ninda
Dead Man's Game
109
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Posted - 2014.08.31 17:37:00 -
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I can shoot fast like that with normal controler..
10 shots,and then my finger starts to hurt
I played Diablo alot on PC,if you know what I mean..
Chasing FOTM since crome..
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
6872
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Posted - 2014.08.31 17:40:00 -
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That isn't a turbo, just fast clicking.
You'll know turbo when you hear it. The thing sounds like a full auto monster
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ratamaq doc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
807
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Posted - 2014.08.31 17:50:00 -
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Op, at what point of the video are you claiming there was a modded controller in play? I doubt he ever broke 500 rpm much less 700. I can sustain fire as fast or faster than anything I saw in this video, and have already proven it.
Try again.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
1246
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Posted - 2014.08.31 17:54:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:That isn't a turbo, just fast clicking.
You'll know turbo when you hear it. The thing sounds like a full auto monster
Yes if it is untuned = unoptimal.
Best autofires can be tuned to achieve best possinle rof/dispersion/overheat combo.
People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
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Ryme Intrinseca
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
1689
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Posted - 2014.08.31 18:04:00 -
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ratamaq doc wrote:Op, at what point of the video are you claiming there was a modded controller in play? I doubt he ever broke 500 rpm much less 700. I can sustain fire as fast or faster than anything I saw in this video, and have already proven it.
Try again. This |
Aabalony Jumbo
Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2014.08.31 18:14:00 -
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Look at all the turbo apologists in this thread. That is definitely a turbo controller. No question about it. |
Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
6880
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Posted - 2014.08.31 18:26:00 -
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Aabalony Jumbo wrote:Look at all the turbo apologists in this thread. That is definitely a turbo controller. No question about it.
I don't use turbo, I just know it when I see it.
If that's turbo, then he got jipped when he bought the thing.
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Arcturis Vanguard
Murphys-Law
270
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Posted - 2014.08.31 18:26:00 -
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I am not expert in modded/turbo controllers but my limited understanding is that with one, a player cannot charge and even hint at a charge shot while the ops video does show at least on two occasions where the scrambler does start to charge.
The video seems to me that the user was tapping The trigger quite quickly which isn't OP.....
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ratamaq doc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
807
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Posted - 2014.08.31 18:32:00 -
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Ryme Intrinseca wrote:ratamaq doc wrote:Op, at what point of the video are you claiming there was a modded controller in play? I doubt he ever broke 500 rpm much less 700. I can sustain fire as fast or faster than anything I saw in this video, and have already proven it.
Try again. This
Hard to tell because it looks like the video is in slow motion, but he gets 18 shots out. I've only ever been able to do 17.
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ratamaq doc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
807
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Posted - 2014.08.31 18:34:00 -
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Aabalony Jumbo wrote:Look at all the turbo apologists in this thread. That is definitely a turbo controller. No question about it.
Would you say either of these were turbo?
http://youtu.be/s9PMIXA2OvA
http://youtu.be/_4f5l_y4rx8
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Aabalony Jumbo
Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2014.08.31 18:35:00 -
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Arcturis Vanguard wrote:I am not expert in modded/turbo controllers but my limited understanding is that with one, a player cannot charge and even hint at a charge shot while the ops video does show at least on two occasions where the scrambler does start to charge.
The video seems to me that the user was tapping The trigger quite quickly which isn't OP..... You can still use charge shot with a turbo controller. |
Arcturis Vanguard
Murphys-Law
270
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Posted - 2014.08.31 18:40:00 -
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Aabalony Jumbo wrote:Arcturis Vanguard wrote:I am not expert in modded/turbo controllers but my limited understanding is that with one, a player cannot charge and even hint at a charge shot while the ops video does show at least on two occasions where the scrambler does start to charge.
The video seems to me that the user was tapping The trigger quite quickly which isn't OP..... You can still use charge shot with a turbo controller.
Tell me how that mechanic works?
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Aabalony Jumbo
Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2014.08.31 18:42:00 -
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Arcturis Vanguard wrote:Aabalony Jumbo wrote:Arcturis Vanguard wrote:I am not expert in modded/turbo controllers but my limited understanding is that with one, a player cannot charge and even hint at a charge shot while the ops video does show at least on two occasions where the scrambler does start to charge.
The video seems to me that the user was tapping The trigger quite quickly which isn't OP..... You can still use charge shot with a turbo controller. Tell me how that mechanic works? Either you turn off the turbo switch or if you have a better turbo controller you use the button that is not turbo instead. |
Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
701
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Posted - 2014.08.31 18:58:00 -
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Rhydra L Wong wrote:http://youtu.be/i8h1GhnWjW8?t=1m30s i have seen people fireing faster then that. but as i stated before it probably depends on the quality fo the controller but you can get up to 10 more shots off before you overheat over human manual fireing
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD
274
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Posted - 2014.08.31 18:59:00 -
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Oh boy the turbo guys will be attacking this thread in droves lmao!
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ratamaq doc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
807
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Posted - 2014.08.31 19:33:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Rhydra L Wong wrote:http://youtu.be/i8h1GhnWjW8?t=1m30s i have seen people fireing faster then that. but as i stated before it probably depends on the quality fo the controller but you can get up to 10 more shots off before you overheat over human manual fireing
10 extra shots is hard to believe. If I can do 17 at ~500 rpm, 27 at 700 rpm doesn't seem possible. That's over 50% more shots for less than a 50% ROF increase.
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Sum1ne Else
Fatal Absolution
1394
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Posted - 2014.08.31 20:12:00 -
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This is recorded when using a turbo controller.
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Tech De Ra
Electronic Sports League
607
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Posted - 2014.08.31 21:04:00 -
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I fire faster than this with a stock DS4...
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
1092
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Posted - 2014.08.31 21:48:00 -
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nice to hear the "objective at 50%" lady is also a ****** in japanese
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Izlare Lenix
Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo
922
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Posted - 2014.08.31 21:50:00 -
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I think it's more about the very, very consistsnt rate of fire the video shows this player is getting. In all scenarios his ROF is constant, regardless if it was CQC or at range.
I have used a ScR for 9 months an I can not fire at the same rate ever single time like this person does. It is only human to fire faster at some points and slower at others. This video shows a very consistent rate of fire, like it's programmed. Hmm.
Also some turbo controller have multiple settings, which allow for different rates of fire. It is obvious this person settings was not too high so he could better manage his overheat.
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Commander Noctus
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
53
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Posted - 2014.08.31 23:08:00 -
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That doesn't seem like a turbo to me. My brother and I both run Scramblers and can out shoot this guy here no problem. No turbo controllers, just the same ****** 4 yr old controllers we've always had. Turbo speeds are achievable for us, but our aim is pure **** and there are times when we'll sort of get "locked" and our fire will go down.
But yeah, that there doesn't seem like the turbos I've seen, which fire nearly as fast as the AScR version. |
xavier zor
King and Queens Peacekeepers of High-Sec
19
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Posted - 2014.08.31 23:11:00 -
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Commander Noctus wrote:That doesn't seem like a turbo to me. My brother and I both run Scramblers and can out shoot this guy here no problem. No turbo controllers, just the same ****** 4 yr old controllers we've always had. Turbo speeds are achievable for us, but our aim is pure **** and there are times when we'll sort of get "locked" and our fire will go down.
But yeah, that there doesn't seem like the turbos I've seen, which fire nearly as fast as the AScR version.
lol...when people talk themselves up to be good |
LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
3286
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Posted - 2014.09.01 00:16:00 -
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Umm... I can fire just as fast with a regular DS3. |
SGT NOVA STAR
1.U.P
264
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Posted - 2014.09.01 00:29:00 -
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I'll just say it because nobody has yet. Perhaps he's using it just for the constant rof instead of tiring out his finger? Why tap with an inconsistent rof when you can always have a fixed one? Also this would help him "hide" the controller better. People that say "I could fire faster" is exactly what he wants you to think....think about it guys.
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Zimander
49
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Posted - 2014.09.01 02:42:00 -
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That not turbo controller you be unable to charge shut |
Zindorak
1.U.P
761
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Posted - 2014.09.01 02:45:00 -
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What's wrong with turbo use i see them as helpful tools that help you reach the potential of a weapon
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Tectonic Fusion
2100
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Posted - 2014.09.01 02:49:00 -
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Rhydra L Wong wrote:http://youtu.be/i8h1GhnWjW8?t=1m30s whoever this guy is he's horrible at the game lol
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
11916
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Posted - 2014.09.01 02:53:00 -
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That's not turbo, you can clearly hear the fire rate is different over time.
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SponkSponkSponk
The Southern Legion Final Resolution.
1035
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Posted - 2014.09.01 02:55:00 -
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I've been on the receiving end of turbo controllers. This isn't close to the hurt that a turbo controller can dish out.
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.09.01 03:02:00 -
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LOL no, I'm afraid that's not the correct answer we were looking for. The correct answer would be, seasoned index finger. Yes, seasoned index finger. You know that guy has had his fair share of mouse clicking! *Applause/Laughter light on*
Tune in next time as we finally find out the meaning of 514. Is it just a number? A date? Or just the number excuses mercenaries will make for just being scrubby. Goodbye everyone!
Archistrategos
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
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Aabalony Jumbo
Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic
9
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Posted - 2014.09.01 03:50:00 -
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It is a turbo controller and turbo controllers have many settings. Just because all of you apologists want to say it is not a turbo controller, the fact remains. He is using a turbo controller. Case closed, next post claiming it is not a turbo controller probably has the same model as him. |
Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.09.01 03:56:00 -
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Aabalony Jumbo wrote:It is a turbo controller and turbo controllers have many settings. Just because all of you apologists want to say it is not a turbo controller, the fact remains. He is using a turbo controller. Case closed, next post claiming it is not a turbo controller probably has the same model as him.
How can you confirm that though?
You can't move your index finger that fast? I can.
Archistrategos
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
13151
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Posted - 2014.09.01 04:03:00 -
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Even if they were there is nothing that prevents them from being a **** shot.
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Cpt McReady
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2014.09.01 07:27:00 -
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that is not a turbo controller. if it is than it is a real ****** one
and this guy couldnt even hit a barn. |
manboar thunder fist
Dead Man's Game
94
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Posted - 2014.09.01 07:38:00 -
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The point is that with time overheat it didn't matter how many shots you fired... A turbo could probably fire more shots in the same time, dealing the insane dps figure used by forum warriors
A human has fluctuations in fire rate and aiming results in slower fire rate, this leads to less shots in before overheat and less damage.
Now with the heat depending on shots moderated shots will be better than rapid ones, lowering the received dps
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
3390
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Posted - 2014.09.01 08:39:00 -
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Its certainly not a turbo, but it does show quite nicely that it's not just Turbo users who are OP with an ScR You simply should not be capable of firing that fast with a semi automatic weapon.
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1427
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Posted - 2014.09.01 17:06:00 -
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Just to see what all the hubbub was all about, I played around with the ScR and a turbo controller. I got 25 shots off with the basic ScR before overheating @ 10 shots per second. If the person shooting in the video is using a turbo controller, he's not got it set up well.
My observations are the gun becomes quite good up close, but using it at range (and without any prerequisite skills) the gun kicks like a mule.
IMO, the gun requires a RoF nerf to stop the exploitation. |
Oscar DE-LA-HOYA
Golden Boy Promotions
1
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Posted - 2014.09.02 19:52:00 -
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Video of me using a turbo controller, enjoy.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BkPbhlv574o |
Sum1ne Else
Fatal Absolution
1398
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Posted - 2014.09.03 14:04:00 -
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What gives this guys away is the way he is firing..its like hes firing an automatic weapon. Also, he seems like a very bad player; the route's and stuff he takes..
If you look at yourself how you fire the Scr, or any semi weapon for that matter (I mean you really look) you will notice its different. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuOXdZfHeN8&feature=youtu.be ratamaq doc demonstrates it here. Then watch the 'turbo controller' vid..you will see. I think the guy is so bad at the game it really does not portray as a turbo controller imho
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.03 15:27:00 -
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kbm can click faster than all these modded controller examples....
that or i have a twitch disease and dont know it....
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DoNotPassGo
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.09.03 18:53:00 -
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Arcturis Vanguard wrote:I am not expert in modded/turbo controllers but my limited understanding is that with one, a player cannot charge and even hint at a charge shot while the ops video does show at least on two occasions where the scrambler does start to charge.
The video seems to me that the user was tapping The trigger quite quickly which isn't OP.....
Really? OMG! Pro Turbo users ALWAYS have TWO controllers on at all times! Especially if its a commando with a swarm launcher-SCR. |
ratamaq doc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
845
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Posted - 2014.09.03 19:06:00 -
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Sum1ne Else wrote:What gives this guys away is the way he is firing..its like hes firing an automatic weapon. Also, he seems like a very bad player; the route's and stuff he takes.. If you look at yourself how you fire the Scr, or any semi weapon for that matter (I mean you really look) you will notice its different. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuOXdZfHeN8&feature=youtu.be ratamaq doc demonstrates it here. Then watch the 'turbo controller' vid..you will see. I think the guy is so bad at the game it really does not portray as a turbo controller imho
Thanks for the shout, this is an older but better recording of actual game play with screen in screen.
http://youtu.be/n0ty2WZ82k8
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