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Zindorak
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Posted - 2014.08.30 23:07:00 -
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I never really understood why you can't use a rep tool on yourself. It would be like placing a hive and it only gives allies ammo or placing an uplink but you can't spawn in it. Before you say that would be OP it could be Logi bonus. Cuz there are those cases where an ****** blueberry doesn't rep you while you are repping a heavy Theres also those cases where people only shoot at you what are you gonna do hide and wait 10 minutes for health to fully recover. If logis could rep themselves it would be the best thing ever to logis
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
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Posted - 2014.08.30 23:26:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:I never really understood why you can't use a rep tool on yourself. It would be like placing a hive and it only gives allies ammo or placing an uplink but you can't spawn in it. Before you say that would be OP it could be Logi bonus. Cuz there are those cases where an ****** blueberry doesn't rep you while you are repping a heavy Theres also those cases where people only shoot at you what are you gonna do hide and wait 10 minutes for health to fully recover. If logis could rep themselves it would be the best thing ever to logis R1 to rep target(s).. so L1 could be to rep self.. and its a drawback in its own right casue you cannot really quickly throw a nade or switch to a weapon or defend yourself while self-repping. self repping should be a logi suit only ability so you dont get every one and their mother brick tanking and rocking with a reptool
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Zindorak
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Posted - 2014.08.30 23:29:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Zindorak wrote:I never really understood why you can't use a rep tool on yourself. It would be like placing a hive and it only gives allies ammo or placing an uplink but you can't spawn in it. Before you say that would be OP it could be Logi bonus. Cuz there are those cases where an ****** blueberry doesn't rep you while you are repping a heavy Theres also those cases where people only shoot at you what are you gonna do hide and wait 10 minutes for health to fully recover. If logis could rep themselves it would be the best thing ever to logis R1 to rep target(s).. so L1 could be to rep self.. and its a drawback in its own right casue you cannot really quickly throw a nade or switch to a weapon or defend yourself while self-repping. self repping should be a logi suit only ability so you dont get every one and their mother brick tanking and rocking with a reptool yea or on Dual reps you could rep the heavy and your self. That would be OP but we can work this out. I want to see what the logi community says about this
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ReGnYuM
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.08.30 23:48:00 -
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Back in closed beta, I think in the E3 Build, players had the ability to self Rep with repair tools. Lets just say it did not work out too well. I am all for trying new things, but repeating past mistakes is just regressive .
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Zindorak
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Posted - 2014.08.30 23:51:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Back in closed beta, I think in the E3 Build, players had the ability to self Rep with repair tools. Lets just say it did not work out too well. I am all for trying new things, but repeating past mistakes is just regressive . Lol but if we want logis buffed i think think idea would be good
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.31 01:37:00 -
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You could in closed beta.. Need no armor reps so you can stack even more armor and still rep yourself it was very OP.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2014.08.31 01:49:00 -
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So basically Armor Tankers can have about 800-1000HP of Armor with 125HP/s?
That's beyond broken.
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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.31 02:18:00 -
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For anything short of an officer repair tool no.
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Zindorak
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Posted - 2014.08.31 02:33:00 -
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Atiim wrote:So basically Armor Tankers can have about 800-1000HP of Armor with 125HP/s?
That's beyond broken. Only for Logis
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Atiim
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Posted - 2014.08.31 02:38:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:Atiim wrote:So basically Armor Tankers can have about 800-1000HP of Armor with 125HP/s?
That's beyond broken. Only for Logis That would still be broken.
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Zindorak
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Posted - 2014.08.31 02:40:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Zindorak wrote:Atiim wrote:So basically Armor Tankers can have about 800-1000HP of Armor with 125HP/s?
That's beyond broken. Only for Logis That would still be broken. Not really logis are quite fragile and we get shot at alot this would fix that
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Atiim
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Posted - 2014.09.23 15:05:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:Atiim wrote:Zindorak wrote:Atiim wrote:So basically Armor Tankers can have about 800-1000HP of Armor with 125HP/s?
That's beyond broken. Only for Logis That would still be broken. Not really logis are quite fragile and we get shot at alot this would fix that If your Logi suit is fragile then you aren't fitting it properly.
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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.09.23 17:52:00 -
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this is problematic cause every armor tanked suit could stack nothing else as just plates and then when hes injured he grabs his reptool and reps himself. Basically he can play like a shield tanked player but with a bigger advantage. get hit, hop into cover and rep yourself in record time.
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Raptor Princess
ALLOTEC INC
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Posted - 2014.09.23 19:36:00 -
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Bright Cloud wrote:this is problematic cause every armor tanked suit could stack nothing else as just plates and then when hes injured he grabs his reptool and reps himself. Basically he can play like a shield tanked player but with a bigger advantage. get hit, hop into cover and rep yourself in record time.
But logi suits are squishy, so it's not really every suit if it's a logi bonus.
I think it should be limited to proto reps (and officer reps) on logistics suits and you should only be able to rep yourself or 2 others (where the tool permits) rather than yourself and 1 other. |
Ryme Intrinseca
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.23 22:18:00 -
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Reading this thread is much more entertaining if you replace every 'rep' with 'w@nk'. |
Thokk Nightshade
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Posted - 2014.09.23 22:49:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Zindorak wrote:Atiim wrote:Zindorak wrote:Atiim wrote:So basically Armor Tankers can have about 800-1000HP of Armor with 125HP/s?
That's beyond broken. Only for Logis That would still be broken. Not really logis are quite fragile and we get shot at alot this would fix that If your Logi suit is fragile then you aren't fitting it properly.
Depends on the suit. With a proto Cal Logi, the baseline for the suit with no armor or shield mods is 270 HP. If I want to fit solely for survivability (thus making it slow as molasses running uphill in winter in a snowstorm), this is what I can get.
Proto Cal Logi:
2 Complex Armor Plates 1 Complex Armor Repair 1 Enhanced CPU upgrade
3 enhanced shield extenders
I'm still leaving 2 high slots open because of PG requirements and running militia gear for nanites/nanohives/etc. (I'm using the Protofits gadget here : ( http://www.protofits.com/fittings ) for my info as I'm not by my PS3 at the moment.
That puts this suit at a 690 base HP (Not sure about armor and shield skill upgrades, sorry). And it moves at a whopping 4.24 M/Sec. That is pretty fragile considering we have scouts running around in 800 HP suits with over twice the speed and much better Ewar. I can't add any of the additional modules to make this suit as effective as it could be.
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Ryme Intrinseca
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.24 00:17:00 -
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Thokk Nightshade wrote:Atiim wrote:Zindorak wrote:Atiim wrote:Zindorak wrote: Only for Logis
That would still be broken. Not really logis are quite fragile and we get shot at alot this would fix that If your Logi suit is fragile then you aren't fitting it properly. Depends on the suit. With a proto Cal Logi, the baseline for the suit with no armor or shield mods is 270 HP. If I want to fit solely for survivability (thus making it slow as molasses running uphill in winter in a snowstorm), this is what I can get. Proto Cal Logi: 2 Complex Armor Plates 1 Complex Armor Repair 1 Enhanced CPU upgrade 3 enhanced shield extenders I'm still leaving 2 high slots open because of PG requirements and running militia gear for nanites/nanohives/etc. (I'm using the Protofits gadget here : ( http://www.protofits.com/fittings ) for my info as I'm not by my PS3 at the moment. That puts this suit at a 690 base HP (Not sure about armor and shield skill upgrades, sorry). And it moves at a whopping 4.24 M/Sec. That is pretty fragile considering we have scouts running around in 800 HP suits with over twice the speed and much better Ewar. I can't add any of the additional modules to make this suit as effective as it could be. Nice lolfit. With full skills you can fit:
Sixkin ACR Flux grenade 5 complex shield extenders 2 complex ferro 2 complex reactive 3 compact nanohives
This is your old school slayerlogi set up. Proto weapon, reasonably fast (4.61 movement), very tanky (998 HP), decent regen (6 HP/sec), and plenty of ammo/emergency rep from hives. If you want to bring fancier equipment and be a 'real' logi, just swap out the Sixkin for a basic weapon.
Obviously, if you haven't invested much in fitting skills (or even in basic gear - why are you bringing militia hives if you're fitting limited), you'll have trouble fitting it, but that's true of most suits. |
Chief-Shotty
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Posted - 2014.09.24 01:38:00 -
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As good as this sound in theory, in practice i think it will present problems in the long run. You could stack nothing but armor, core rep yourself in no time.
If a rep tool is equipped you get 2-5 reps a seconds depending on tiercide.(A passive ability of a rep tool thus anybody could use it)
Logis could use that as a passive rep but not a direct rep @40hp/s or more that is just asking for trouble.
Since most logis equip rep tools this would act as an internal rep (only works when equipped though) (do you get WP for triage on yourself?)
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Zindorak
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Posted - 2014.09.24 11:18:00 -
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Chief-Shotty wrote:As good as this sound in theory, in practice i think it will present problems in the long run. You could stack nothing but armor, core rep yourself in no time.
If a rep tool is equipped you get 2-5 reps a seconds depending on tiercide.(A passive ability of a rep tool thus anybody could use it)
Logis could use that as a passive rep but not a direct rep @40hp/s or more that is just asking for trouble.
Since most logis equip rep tools this would act as an internal rep (only works when equipped though) (do you get WP for triage on yourself?) no wp on yourself that acts as some balance so you cant get Orbitals with just yoursefl
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