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Apothecary Za'ki
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Posted - 2014.08.29 23:27:00 -
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Luna McDuffing wrote:My wife had this alt account which she created for experimenting purposes. After a while she kind of abandone it so I told her let make that guy a heavy I mean with a name like BullDozer Bubba he ahs to be a heavy . (She plays assault I play logi and scout). Anyways, I asked my corp for advice and they said to go Ammar Sentinel. Lo and behold I talked to my wife about it and she told me "Oh!, I made him a Caldari Sentinel". She is a Caladari sympathizer. I'm like aarrrggg we should ahd gone Ammar!!! anyways, i tried it out and at the beginning I didn't like it, but after like 4 rounds I started getting like 30 kills (I usually get 9 to 12 with the scout and about 4 with the logi since I'm repairing).
I still wonder if it would had been better to go Ammar or eve Gallente.
So, the question is, what is your opinion on the Caldari Heavy? I like that it heals really quickly but men!!!, 1 flux grenade and you are done.
caldari only shines at full proto with big shields and scout like shield repair and very low shield delay..
amarr is just a brick full stop best saved for logi supported ownage
gallente isnt bad for multi repping soloing as the larger then amarr shield buffer helps to absorb some hurt allowing armor reppers to get some time in
minmatar is a difficult one as people tend to slap a kinkat onto it for extra suprise buttsex
as a logi i frequantly see caldari sentinels getting owned by 1 flux and a quick CR spray the flux nades be OP..
amarr are slow as all hell but they can roll with the pnches well especially if they got a core focused repper on their ass
gallente arnt that bad, kinda like amarr and the shield hp allows a little more burst resistance to explosives and projectiles
minmatar is a problem.. their basic heavysuit is better then their sentinel suit, faster and better CPU/PG so it can be a supreme speedy suprise burst HMG liquidator but it isnt ment for soaking up damage its ment for flank n gank!
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Apothecary Za'ki
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Posted - 2014.08.29 23:28:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:As people have been saying it's pretty great with a forge gun as it won't have the armor weighing it down making it even slower and the shields regenerate very quickly. In CQC with a hmg, it's all about the incredibly fast regen in comparison to other heavies. If you can get a breather you can wear down the enemy and if you have back up that is forcing them to stay back, you should be able to hold on. For Caldari and likewise minmitar, it's all about knowing when to engage and when to disengage. Brick tanks are slow, so you use that to your advantage. Also as a side note, don't use the assault. I thought its higher optimal would be useful but with having used it for a while the higher optimal is pointless since it does about a 3rd less damage than the standard and that higher optimal is often pointless since the gun will fire wildly at long range, I think it doesn't overheat as fast either but this is moot as the other heavy that will kill you with a standard hmg won't overheat either.
Also as long as you don't stack too many shield extenders your recharge delay is near instant, (I think it's one second.) So if you stack damage mods and rechargers on your Caldari sentinel you are probably better off than if you had put on extenders. I'm often greatful when I get fluxed from around a corner because it makes my regen immediately kick in instead of when my shields were at say 100 waiting for the longer tick.
The biggest let down on the Caldari sentinel for hotfix charlie was the slot layout modification. The Standard sentinel is basically useless as it doesn't have a low slot. With no low slot you have no way to passively rep your armor so you will be worn down. Some may say that you could get a logi, but the entire appeal of the Caldari sentinel over the other sentinels is the fact that it is the most independant. Able to regen at insane rates in comparison to the others allowing it to tank without a logi.
yeah no low slot is also the bane of the calmando too till adv or proto i believe
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
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Posted - 2014.08.29 23:34:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:As people have been saying it's pretty great with a forge gun as it won't have the armor weighing it down making it even slower and the shields regenerate very quickly. In CQC with a hmg, it's all about the incredibly fast regen in comparison to other heavies. If you can get a breather you can wear down the enemy and if you have back up that is forcing them to stay back, you should be able to hold on. For Caldari and likewise minmitar, it's all about knowing when to engage and when to disengage. Brick tanks are slow, so you use that to your advantage. Also as a side note, don't use the assault. I thought its higher optimal would be useful but with having used it for a while the higher optimal is pointless since it does about a 3rd less damage than the standard and that higher optimal is often pointless since the gun will fire wildly at long range, I think it doesn't overheat as fast either but this is moot as the other heavy that will kill you with a standard hmg won't overheat either.
Also as long as you don't stack too many shield extenders your recharge delay is near instant, (I think it's one second.) So if you stack damage mods and rechargers on your Caldari sentinel you are probably better off than if you had put on extenders. I'm often greatful when I get fluxed from around a corner because it makes my regen immediately kick in instead of when my shields were at say 100 waiting for the longer tick.
The biggest let down on the Caldari sentinel for hotfix charlie was the slot layout modification. The Standard sentinel is basically useless as it doesn't have a low slot. With no low slot you have no way to passively rep your armor so you will be worn down. Some may say that you could get a logi, but the entire appeal of the Caldari sentinel over the other sentinels is the fact that it is the most independant. Able to regen at insane rates in comparison to the others allowing it to tank without a logi. yeah no low slot is also the bane of the calmando too till adv or proto i believe
Yeah I've got that too, but the good side on the Calmando std is that you can equip a triage hive or a compact hive, although I just use adv. If you want a cheap Caldari sentinel with a hmg you can still use the basic heavy as it has the old slot layout, but you won't have dat damage resistance or dat higher e/hp and god mode regen.
What wrecks any of my Caldari suits more than anything right now is the CQC spray and pray from the ScR. But I don't put armor plates on my Caldari suits, I use armor reps and shield regulators. |
Michael Epic
The Neutral Zone
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Posted - 2014.09.06 15:38:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:Michael Epic wrote:In Ambush (not OMS) most all you see is heavies. Do you know why? Its easy. They took out tanks. Heavy suits are the next best thing.
So everyone runs a heavy and if you choose to be different and run a scout or a medium suit....you're out of luck because all the heavies and their prototype HGM's own the battlefield
People are mostly petty and shallow and play like babies. Its the same crap as dropships taking people to the top of the tallest tower on the border gulch map and dropping them off and them putting 3 nanohives and 3 drop links down and sniping the objective in domination while everyone else can do nothing about it.
Here's an idea; Spend 28,000 isk on a Gorgon dropship, learn to fly that sum'b!tch and drop in on their heads and then drop down, wipe out their droplinks and nanohives and put an end to that cheap petty ass baby sh!t Show me on the doll where the HMG diddled you 
I'd almost be offended and like you'd one-upped me if I didn't see that exact same sentence on this and the EVE forum like 10x a day. Come back to me when you have an original "put down" or "insult" or "burn", Michael Kelso that I haven't seen before.
*crosses arms and waits patiently* |
Joel II X
Crux Special Tasks Group
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Posted - 2014.09.06 15:46:00 -
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lee corwood wrote:Riruodo wrote:lee corwood wrote:Riruodo wrote:Caldari Heavy is the cutest looking of the heavies.
Minmatar is the ugliest. What are you talking about?? Just LOOK at that sexy unibrow!!! Andrew Garfield has a sexy unibrow... I guess... as far as unibrows go. But if transformers were mascots, the Minmatar heavy would be like UPS' mascot. It looks like a box. A mean looking, evil box that will kill you just as soon as look at you... but still a box. (-_-; ) http://i.imgur.com/HU7jR56.png
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.09.06 16:00:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:What in the actual **** did I just read?
But as for my opinion on the caldari sentinel: I like it. You have to remember it's caldari, so it's meant for fighting at long range with a forge gun (out of flux range)
When used as intended, it's actually very good.
You are 100% correct.
That is the problem with most people who play this game.
Sentinels all have a general somewhat common use but when combined with racial profiles they get a little bit different.
As he said before the Caldari Sentinel stays at range and gives long range support
The Amarr I would assume would be very similar to this but more of a tank role meant for soaking up damage and taking all the aggro.
The Minmatar would be the one most people would probably like being the most maneuverable they would be the masters with an HMG.
The Gallente however is odd, i always thought it could use less health, more speed and 1 more rep but I'm not sure which design philosophy they will give the Gallente Heavy Weapon. From what it sounds like is that the Gal heavy weapon will be a mortar of some type...
anyhow, what I'm saying is that just because you pick a suit class doesnt mean they will all act and perform the same way
The cal heavy could use more shields though.
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Jacques Cayton II
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.06 16:45:00 -
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Spectre-M wrote:It's meant to be an AV suit, not HMG cqc. Using a forge gun with it at long range makes the caldari heavy very hard to drop.
<_< *looks at Caldari sentinel and forge. Throws down forge picks hmg up* People always say your useless with this suit baby but in reality we make a beautiful couple
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Thurak1
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Posted - 2014.09.06 16:54:00 -
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Luna McDuffing wrote:My wife had this alt account which she created for experimenting purposes. After a while she kind of abandone it so I told her let make that guy a heavy I mean with a name like BullDozer Bubba he ahs to be a heavy . (She plays assault I play logi and scout). Anyways, I asked my corp for advice and they said to go Ammar Sentinel. Lo and behold I talked to my wife about it and she told me "Oh!, I made him a Caldari Sentinel". She is a Caladari sympathizer. I'm like aarrrggg we should ahd gone Ammar!!! anyways, i tried it out and at the beginning I didn't like it, but after like 4 rounds I started getting like 30 kills (I usually get 9 to 12 with the scout and about 4 with the logi since I'm repairing).
I still wonder if it would had been better to go Ammar or eve Gallente.
So, the question is, what is your opinion on the Caldari Heavy? I like that it heals really quickly but men!!!, 1 flux grenade and you are done.
I primarily play a caldari heavy myself.
Right now the thing that really makes my cal heavy so devastating is my damage mods and burst hmg.
I have a gal heavy also that i can be really effective with.When i know i have a good logi thats going to be strapped to me i play the gal so i have more armor for the logi to rep and i can stick in firefights longer.
When i am playing solo or without a dedicated logi i play my cal logi.
With him its all about mobility and flanking people or as weird as it is surprising the enemy.
I can't stay involved in a firefights with him i have to be consious of where his shields are and avoid fluxes like the plague.
Whats really funny is that i get hit with flux grenades a lot more as a gal than as a cal. |
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