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Nikita Of Caldari duna corp 5	Posted - 2014.08.27 23:41:00 - [1] - Quote Can anyone explain to me why the Six Kin Assault Combat Rifle is considered better than my BK-42 Assault Combat Rifle. I mean i know it's Prototype level versus Advanced level. However, I do not understand why. Six Kin does not differ that much, in damage, and rpms. So to my eyes, it is not worth the investment. What makes this weapon supposedly so great ? Rawrzuh Rawrzuh
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 4554	Posted - 2014.08.27 23:43:00 - [2] - Quote That little 'bit of difference adds up fast thanks to high fire rate. See Burst HMG. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Scheneighnay McBob Cult of Gasai 5847	Posted - 2014.08.27 23:44:00 - [3] - Quote Proto vs Adv is like that in all aspects. The skills required for proto are still worth getting; no need to spend the extra money on the gun, however. pé¦pâ+pé¦pâ½pâäpâ¬pâ¦pé¦pâ¼pâ+pâêpü»sñ¬S+ïpéè
Nikita Of Caldari duna corp 5	Posted - 2014.08.27 23:53:00 - [4] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: That little 'bit of difference adds up fast thanks to high fire rate. See Burst HMG. yeah but like I said, Both weapons have the same RPMs. Rawrzuh Rawrzuh
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3275	Posted - 2014.08.27 23:54:00 - [5] - Quote Doesn't the Six Kin also have slightly more range?
Fizzer XCIV Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 157	Posted - 2014.08.27 23:57:00 - [6] - Quote The Six Kin does 5% more damage, just like most other weapons. Take that as it is.
Auris Lionesse Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 936	Posted - 2014.08.28 00:01:00 - [7] - Quote its exponential growth. skilling up gives that extra percent along with opening up proficiency skills, and the improve stats that already are an improvement get compounded by the higher skills. im not aware what the current stats are but when your at 1000-1200rpm it doesnt really matter what the damage is your gonna melt anything that gets in your way and thats why they were always the most op weapon even back pre rail rifle nerf. they had too much range with the stats the assault rifle should have had making the old ar defunct. at least that used to be the case. Don't vote for iron wolf saber. Vote for someone who will help the community i.e. anyone else.
Nikita Of Caldari duna corp 5	Posted - 2014.08.28 00:02:00 - [8] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Proto vs Adv is like that in all aspects. The skills required for proto are still worth getting; no need to spend the extra money on the gun, however. why is that? that's what i am trying to understand haha Rawrzuh Rawrzuh
Nikita Of Caldari duna corp 5	Posted - 2014.08.28 00:07:00 - [9] - Quote Auris Lionesse wrote: its exponential growth. skilling up gives that extra percent along with opening up proficiency skills, and the improve stats that already are an improvement get compounded by the higher skills. im not aware what the current stats are but when your at 1000-1200rpm it doesnt really matter what the damage is your gonna melt anything that gets in your way and thats why they were always the most op weapon even back pre rail rifle nerf. they had too much range with the stats the assault rifle should have had making the old ar defunct. at least that used to be the case. Oh i see. I understand now. Exponential growth and increase by 5% with the current weapon. This is crazy. I guess it is time to save up the SP. I was going to save up the SP to reduce the kick from that gun , but ok Thanks guys. Rawrzuh Rawrzuh
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 3591	Posted - 2014.08.28 00:08:00 - [10] - Quote Nikita Of Caldari wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: That little 'bit of difference adds up fast thanks to high fire rate. See Burst HMG. yeah but like I said, Both weapons have the same RPMs. Right, but when you are talking such high RPMs, any difference in damage is significant. You can always tell a Millford Minja

Thang Bausch Pierrot Le Fou Industries 219	Posted - 2014.08.28 00:35:00 - [11] - Quote Note that getting that high of RPM without a modded controller is hard. Many claim they can without the added of modded tech, but I personally cannot make my old man fingers click fast enough to get even close to that RPM.
Ryme Intrinseca Eurotrash Pubstars 1645	Posted - 2014.08.28 00:37:00 - [12] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Nikita Of Caldari wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: That little 'bit of difference adds up fast thanks to high fire rate. See Burst HMG. yeah but like I said, Both weapons have the same RPMs. Right, but when you are talking such high RPMs, any difference in damage is significant. A 5% damage increase is a 5% damage increase. Rpm doesnt come into it. A proto rail rifle benefits just as much as a proto acr from that extra 5%. In both cases it still takes 5% fewer bullets to get the job done. In fact, im actually using a proto rr but advanced scr at the moment because i really cant tell the difference between a bk-42 and sixkin but i find enemies often get away from my rr if its not kaalkiota, i guess due to the lower dps and longer engagement range when using rr vs acr. To OP: weapon proficiency and operation are important but do not neglect your core skills. These are really what separates vets from newbs in SP terms.
Atiim 11670	Posted - 2014.08.28 01:06:00 - [13] - Quote Nikita Of Caldari wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: That little 'bit of difference adds up fast thanks to high fire rate. See Burst HMG. yeah but like I said, Both weapons have the same RPMs. They have the same RPM, but not the same DPS. BK-42: (20HP per Bullet * 1200 RPM) / 60 = 400 DPS Six Kin: (21HP per Bullet * 1200 RPM) / 60 = 420 DPS The Six Kin has a an extra 20 damage per second than the BK-42. Though as you can clearly see, the difference is neglibile and won't be needed unless facing extremely organized and good players. This is the case with most weapons. The increase between ADV and PRO means that PRO isn't really justified unless you absolutely need it (see above). DUST 514's 1st Matari Commando -HAND
ladwar SHAKING BABIES FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE 2076	Posted - 2014.08.28 01:50:00 - [14] - Quote Six kin is cooler, btw you need more then operation to use it so bonus on top of dat slight extra and add to the fact armor is the only to get alot hp which it gets 2 bonuses 4. Level 2 Forum Warrior, bitter vet. I shall smite Thy Trolls with numbers and truth doing reviews in free time, want 1?
Venerable Phage Red Shirts Away Team 246	Posted - 2014.08.28 02:03:00 - [15] - Quote Thang Bausch wrote: Note that getting that high of RPM without a modded controller is hard. Many claim they can without the added of modded tech, but I personally cannot make my old man fingers click fast enough to get even close to that RPM. The semis shots do 50% more damage... To stop the mod controllers (actually cheaper then Sony ones) or mouse macros the RPM should be 2/3rds so that the damage is the same between types and it makes cheating/mods/macros a mute argument. As it is I'm highly doubtful of some of the fits with a basic CR who are strafing , jumping, aiming and still pouring out close to optimal RPM are not using macros or auto mods. A percentage might but I have a feeling others like the idea of 50% extra damage at extra range by just plugging in a cheaper controller. Of course no one in Dust would ever do that... My take on 514: Five Empires, One Dead, Four Alive
ladwar SHAKING BABIES FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE 2076	Posted - 2014.08.28 02:10:00 - [16] - Quote Venerable Phage wrote: Thang Bausch wrote: Note that getting that high of RPM without a modded controller is hard. Many claim they can without the added of modded tech, but I personally cannot make my old man fingers click fast enough to get even close to that RPM. The semis shots do 50% more damage... To stop the mod controllers (actually cheaper then Sony ones) or mouse macros the RPM should be 2/3rds so that the damage is the same between types and it makes cheating/mods/macros a mute argument. As it is I'm highly doubtful of some of the fits with a basic CR who are strafing , jumping, aiming and still pouring out close to optimal RPM are not using macros or auto mods. A percentage might but I have a feeling others like the idea of 50% extra damage at extra range by just plugging in a cheaper controller. Of course no one in Dust would ever do that... Well alteast they learned from the TAR problem Level 2 Forum Warrior, bitter vet. I shall smite Thy Trolls with numbers and truth doing reviews in free time, want 1?
John ShepardIII Pure Evil. 462	Posted - 2014.08.28 05:07:00 - [17] - Quote You only use Proto stuff in PC or if your rich, or if your bored The True Shepard.


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